A Worthy Offering! Baritone!!!!
philmax
Posted 2007-01-11 4:30 PM (#320916)
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What else is there to say! less than 24hrs, someone should make a run at THIS!!!
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-11 4:53 PM (#320917 - in reply to #320916)
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Anotherone seller takes paypal, ending soon!
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45flint
Posted 2007-01-11 8:03 PM (#320918 - in reply to #320916)
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What are the odds of two of these for sale?
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-11 8:17 PM (#320919 - in reply to #320916)
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there's been some activity on the first one I posted, hope he's one of ours!!!

Not posting bidder ID's should substantially favor sellers...
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-11 8:35 PM (#320920 - in reply to #320916)
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Y'know, I'd always thought of LongNecks as a bit of a "novelty", but since I've had one, it's just blown my brain open when it comes to playing now . . .

I've always tried t'get our two guitars to sound "different" from each other at gigs, so usually what I'll do is capo my guitar up and play different chords (transposing the chords "down" in my head). . .

NOW with the LongNeck, I've got to transpose "up" and it totally screws with my head (let ALONE the head of the other person that I'm playing with).

It just increases your "palette" of guitar sound possiblities.

I HIGHLY recommend 'em . . .
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-01-11 8:44 PM (#320921 - in reply to #320916)
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cliff,isnt the "longlegg" wintering with you? jason
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-11 8:53 PM (#320922 - in reply to #320916)
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If I wasn't financially challenged right now I'd be all over 1 of'em, and if I was in a good mood I probably scarf both...
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-11 8:55 PM (#320923 - in reply to #320916)
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Actually, Santa arranged for it to "have it's eggs on the JerseySide" on a full-time basis, so it goes out on the few gigs where I actually have enough room for three guitars on the meager amount of floor space I/we have to contend with . . .
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-01-11 8:57 PM (#320924 - in reply to #320916)
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lucky man clifford....jason
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-11 9:07 PM (#320925 - in reply to #320916)
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Cliff et al,

Grab a longneck with big strings, tuned A-A and a Papoose tuned A-A. Problems with transposing solved!

At Ed St. Onge's that Baritone 12 was strung lightly so that it was E-E with about 50 frets open for playing. Very adaptable.
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-11 9:10 PM (#320926 - in reply to #320916)
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lots of ways to do it, all good.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-01-11 9:32 PM (#320927 - in reply to #320916)
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I've been having a blast with mine since I got it a couple of months ago. Lots of possibilities. Been using it strung B-B with some thicker strings (.16 -.72), although I have played around with different tunings too.
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45flint
Posted 2007-01-12 7:23 AM (#320928 - in reply to #320916)
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Is there any real difference between these two? The number is different. It is probably a 5 read as an S.
Steve
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-01-12 10:55 AM (#320929 - in reply to #320916)
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One has the OPX, and the other, I beleive, has the Optima.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-12 12:24 PM (#320930 - in reply to #320916)
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I'd take either. :D
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-12 1:07 PM (#320931 - in reply to #320916)
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great opportunity, time running out!!!

If one of us get one could you please let the rest of us know, the suspence is killing me!!!

this new bidding issue is alot more interesting and fun!!! phil
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-12 3:33 PM (#320932 - in reply to #320916)
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One down at $540!

Wazzitwunna us?
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-12 3:43 PM (#320933 - in reply to #320916)
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$540!!?? I remember when those were going for $700-$800...The other is at $535 with 9minutes left..incredible..

steve
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-12 3:46 PM (#320934 - in reply to #320916)
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When two or more similar items show up at the same time it can be really good for the bidders.

I would have thought they'd go at least over $600.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-12 3:54 PM (#320935 - in reply to #320916)
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$535!
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-12 3:54 PM (#320936 - in reply to #320916)
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Ended at $535, amazing, simply amazing. This last one appeared to be the better guitar...

steve
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-12 3:57 PM (#320937 - in reply to #320916)
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:eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-12 4:09 PM (#320938 - in reply to #320916)
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A few years ago this guitar would have gone for $200 more, and this one is in better shape than the ones on the 'bay back then. I remember a very nice Longneck with the tobaccoburst finish. The reserve was never met and it never relisted.
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-12 4:43 PM (#320939 - in reply to #320916)
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does anyone want to come forward?
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-12 4:45 PM (#320940 - in reply to #320916)
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Next year I'm saving my Christmas $$$ till after Xmas!!! WOW :eek: phil
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-01-12 4:48 PM (#320941 - in reply to #320916)
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I paid more for mine not too long ago, but I don't care and I'm still happy. It was a fair price then and worth to me what I paid then. So be it. These are specialty guitars, and worth a lot more than what these two fetched, but being a specialty the relative amount you'll get for one will vary based on timing. My experience watching these says that in a couple of months there will be one out there that sells for $750+.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-01-12 4:52 PM (#320942 - in reply to #320916)
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I made a run at the one that went first, as it had (from what the uninformed seller said) an Optima rather than an OPX. I stopped at 530.00 with 5 sec left because I was unsure of the condition. The one that went last, I was driving home when it went. I guess it wasn't meant to be. Anyhow, I'm waiting on the repair est. on the 1681 from John, and I know, (as the monkey said while urinating in the bank vault), "this could run into some money" :eek:
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-12 5:02 PM (#320943 - in reply to #320916)
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I feel the sameway Stonebobbo, I'm happy for other people when they get a good deal, but when I want something I'm gonna pay the price, as long as I get mine, I'm happy!!!

I'm sure those buyers are REAL happy!
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innerman
Posted 2007-01-12 5:28 PM (#320944 - in reply to #320916)
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I'm sort of glad I didn't see that baritone until just now when the auction was over. I would have gone into vapor-lock trying to decide if I could make an unplanned purchase.

$535 seems like an incredibly good deal on a very unique guitar.
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45flint
Posted 2007-01-12 6:01 PM (#320945 - in reply to #320916)
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I am eastern standard time and the auction ended in the midafternoon. Why would you do that? I really can't deal with it while I am at work and to bid on something like this you need to be there at the end.
That also could be the reason they went cheaper as well.
Steve
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-13 1:53 AM (#320946 - in reply to #320916)
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Talk about bad timing, I think the sellers of these guitars are feeling the pain!!!

1. Why sell right after Xmas and before tax refunds?

2. On such a unique instrument, why sell 2 at the same time?

At least no one can say the OFC suppressed prices on theses auctions!
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-13 3:26 AM (#320947 - in reply to #320916)
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bobbo;

I read either here or somewhere else that you've tuned yours B2b . . .

What strings?

The LongLegg's got EJ17(meds) on it now, and (t'me) it seems t'sound a little "bright". I was thinking of going heavier for a bit more "thump".

Bill, do y'know what Adrian liked t'tune to??
I'm wondering if possibly he wasn't pleased with sound at the tuning he liked and "fixed" it by shaving that brace (it DOES look like it was done with a pocketknife). I'm wondering if that shaved brace is making it sound bright t'me (at D2d). . .

My other thought is to try those GHS GypsyStrings . . .

I didn't care for what they do for the sound of a SlotHead, but this might be a curious application (especially with lower tuning).
They're kinda' "light" though.
Anybody know who makes 'em in "portly" or possibly "husky"??

Fred??
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-01-13 12:20 PM (#320948 - in reply to #320916)
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Cliff,

Yup, B-B in a standard tuning. I read somewhere that this was best with the big strings. With the deep bowl, your insides will rumble. :)

Right now, John Pearse phosphor bronze .15-.62. The packaging says to tune in open F (C-F-C-F-A-C). I also tried the LaBella strings which were .14 - .70; I think I liked them a little better. Next up some D'Ad EXP23s which are .16-.70.

I got all of them from www.juststrings.com, under Baritone guitar. Good outfit ... decent prices and I get my strings within a couple of days of ordering.

BTW, with medium strings, there was nothing special about the guitar (IMHO). With the right strings, it is a whole nuther beast. I think LaBella makes them in a set that is .16-.80, so you can go really low if you want.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-13 1:10 PM (#320949 - in reply to #320916)
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Bobbo, Did you fail the "dewey decimal system? :D :p :D :p

I think Matt was handing out single .007's or something to drop tune a regular scale guitar. You'd drop the 1st string of a set of mediums, making them a 17-70 set. That would definitely get you into the C-tuning range on the longLegg. Since I dont completely hate them, the EXP's would likely be little mellower. or in EJ's build this all wrapped set:

PB020
PB027
PB039
PB049
PB059
PB070

Thumpa thumpa thumpaaaaa!!!
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-13 1:13 PM (#320950 - in reply to #320916)
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That would be the .074" Strings. I got a handful from
www.juststrings.com


Poor Man's baritone!
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-13 1:14 PM (#320951 - in reply to #320916)
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I guess I did supress the price by not bidding. I have too many irons in the fire right now.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-13 1:18 PM (#320952 - in reply to #320916)
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Woody, Did you have to modify the nut to use them?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-01-13 1:24 PM (#320953 - in reply to #320916)
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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
Bobbo, Did you fail the "dewey decimal system? :D :p :D :p
Nah, I just let the geeks handle the math for me these days. :eek: :D
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-13 1:24 PM (#320954 - in reply to #320916)
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"Did you have to modify the nut to use them"

No, I had them on my 1112-1 and it was an interesting player.

After missing the Baritone I was gloomily surfing the bay when this Deacon Case popped up!

If it fits my 12 that will be soooo cool.
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-17 6:12 PM (#320955 - in reply to #320916)
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I did it! I'm the one who got it for $535!Mwoohahahaha! That's my first Ovation!

I'm totally stoked! It was definitely a "small net" bid, I had no idea it was going to win!
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philmax
Posted 2007-01-17 6:24 PM (#320956 - in reply to #320916)
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Major Score, Congrats!!!

hope all goes well with the transaction, and your guitar arrives in good shape. Let us know when it arrives!!!

Way to Go!!! phil
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-17 6:57 PM (#320957 - in reply to #320916)
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Jacob,

Congrats and welcome!
Was I the bidder right behind you?


fishgiven on Ebay
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-17 7:06 PM (#320958 - in reply to #320916)
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You probably were right behind me, but they've got the names blocked nowadays...

I was fiending for an Adamas a while ago, but I'll happily settle for the bari. (I've got an Alvarez bari right now and it rocks my world.)
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-17 7:18 PM (#320959 - in reply to #320916)
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Nice!

Cngrts.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-01-17 7:49 PM (#320960 - in reply to #320916)
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Am I wrong or are these prices way low on these......??
I tune My Adamas a full note down for a bunch of stuff. It seems to work fine but I'll bet you can crank this down more than that with medium/heavy strings on it.
Randy
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stephent28
Posted 2007-01-18 12:26 PM (#320961 - in reply to #320916)
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I had my 1581 tuned down to baritone and it was pretty good. Stayed in tune very well and had a terrific rumble. Was it equal to the DS768....not quite but close.....but close enough that I sold off my DS768 (knowing all the while that I was going to ultimately special order a 6/12 baritone set Adamii).
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-18 1:01 PM (#320962 - in reply to #320916)
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Am I wrong or are these prices way low on these......??
Yeah, the price is way low on these. And now the seller is being a serious pain in the rear about the mail-transit-time for the check. He realizes he didn't get enough money for it, and is threatening to void the auction. Grr. (That's what reserve prices are for!)
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willard
Posted 2007-01-18 2:24 PM (#320963 - in reply to #320916)
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I paid $700 plus for mine as well and don't regret it a bit. As with most O's it's worth more than that if you ask me.

I use EJ18's (14-59)on it and love the sound, tuned down a full step to D. I tried some heavier strings for a while but it was like playing on ropes and never could get used to them.
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-18 3:06 PM (#320964 - in reply to #320916)
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EJ18's, eh??
I'll have t'give those a try . . .
(I'm not even gonna' TRY finding 'em at GC. I've been to two different stores in as many days & STILL haven't found what I need)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-01-18 3:32 PM (#320965 - in reply to #320916)
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Cliff ...

www.juststrings.com

They have what you need and you'll have 'em in a couple of days.
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-18 4:05 PM (#320966 - in reply to #320916)
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Jacob,
Perhaps you could inform the seller that 3000 members of the Ovation Fan Club are watching to see if he is going to be honest about his auctions. If you honestly won the auction according to the rules, then he is risking a serious negative feedback. I looked at his rating and there was one buyer who apparently missed a paypal option and got nothing but grief from him. Other than that he has a good rating.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-18 5:33 PM (#320967 - in reply to #320916)
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"And now the seller is being a serious pain in the rear about the mail-transit-time for the check. He realizes he didn't get enough money for it, and is threatening to void the auction."

That is one of the upsides of Paypal. Fast payment and the onus of completion is on the Seller.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-18 6:01 PM (#320968 - in reply to #320916)
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Jacob,

You just stick with the sellers own terms. If he sent you his address to mail the check right away, the earliest you could've gotten it out was Saturday, maybe Monday if you got him the postal money order HE requested. It's only Thursday. He has nothing to worry about until next Monday at the earliest, especially if you've been in contact with him about the payment status etc. Was he willing to deduct the additional costs of USPS Priority or ExpressMail from the cost of the guitar?
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-22 2:07 PM (#320969 - in reply to #320916)
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I sent the check out in the middle of last week. And for this particular auction, he's shipping it by UPS ground (cross country) after the check clears. So I've got to wait at least 2 or 3 weeks before I'll ever even see the guitar. Considering that, you'd think he'd be less worried about making the transaction as fast as possible. AND, he didn't threaten me with negative feedback until I sent him the e-mail telling him the check was in the mail. What a punk.
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-22 2:37 PM (#320970 - in reply to #320916)
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And about strings, I'm still messing around with different string weights and tunings to see what I like best. I did the EXP23 Baritone set... those were good, but almost too heavy unless I tuned all the way down to A or Bb. The size of them felt alright.

But the strings that seem to be working best for me is the set of the same 14's that Bill likes, and tune them to about C or C#. From there I'll use alternate/drop tunings, and it never gets too slinky or anything. So I just ordered a couple sets of custom matched coated strings from JustStrings.com that is just a touch heavier than the heavies (to accomodate the detuning)
.014 .018 .027 .039 .049 .060
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-23 10:36 AM (#320971 - in reply to #320916)
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Jacob, Keep us informed about this seller, if he keeps up his end of the deal...sounds like he is making as much profit on the shipping as he can. Some sellers are more responsive than others. I paid just $20 for shipping and insurance from Phoenix to Tennessee. My guitar arrived quickly and in perfect condition. Of course, I paid by a bank wire and the seller had his money immediately. But, Ebay is risky at times...buyer beware.
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Jacob
Posted 2007-01-23 3:25 PM (#320972 - in reply to #320916)
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He's agreed to ship the guitar.

Apparently he has just recently had some problems with a non-paying bidder of a $6 CD... and was pre-emptively frustrated with me. Not fair, but understandable, I guess.

I'll post again when I get the guitar, and am officially an Ovation owner!
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-23 5:30 PM (#320973 - in reply to #320916)
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... a $6 CD?...that's just strange, I've got a friend with a serious ebay store and a $6 dollar item is miniscule by comparison, but I guess it all adds up. We look forward to some pics/tunes when you get your Longneck! :)

Steve
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