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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Just looked.
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Location: big island | didya let the page load? |
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Location: SoCal | You know, except for the inlaid "SEVEN", that's a pretty cool guitar...... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Wow.. they have Jerome playing "Blackbird" on there! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Sorry, I'm still missing something. It just looks like a regular elite T with white purfling and an enormous serial number. |
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Location: NJ | It DOES look like a good, "RockBand" gigging acoustic, . . . I agree tho, it could do without the "tag" . . . |
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Location: big island | you're not missing anything, muz. i was yikesing about the gruesome masked man. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Anthony Hopkins? |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I've just sent the link to our bass player. He cancelled a recent custom order and is looking for something different. I told him that I just bought its matching red twin 6-stringer. Next thing you know, we'll be wearing matching continental jackets. Anybody remember those? |
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Location: Okinawa Japan | Excuse my ignorance, but.....what the heck is a continental jacket?????? |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by acousticd:
Excuse my ignorance, but.....what the heck is a continental jacket?????? It has a spare tire on the back...  |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | It was just a cheap suit jacket without any collar, usually in some iridescent color. Ours were light blue that changed to green and yellow. The Beatles took a famous early photo in continental suits. They were standard pop band uniform in the early 60's. I like the spare tire on the back explanation better. That was good, 2ifbyC! |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | As for the loser on the home page....I mean...Mick Thomson:
I was raised by my parents to believe my life should count for something; that whatever I do with my life needs to make the world a better place to live in, needs to have a good effect on those I come in contact with.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The guy looks like a mope, and they messed up the guitar "tag"
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My Dad had a similar reaction in the early 70's when he found a Hendrix LP accidently left (by me) on the family record player. Dad called him a "guitar burning negro" and he threw away the actual LP. Ironically, to this day I still have the empty LP jacket. I think of Dad and chuckle every time I see it.
Yes, given enough time we do become our parents.
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Location: big island | i realize it's just "business", but after perusing some of the info on mick thomson, i am rather disappointed to see a business relationship between ovation and his ilk. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | When anyone in the family wants to piss me off, they call me "George", my dad's name. He basically did the same thing with a Black Sabbath tape I had. He was right. |
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Location: Scotland | The guys from Slopknit were at the NAMM show signing autographs. The lines to get to them were ridiculous. They're a hugely succesful band, so it's got to a good business move, regardless if anyone here likes them. Personally I think if it raises the profile of the brand to a younger, hipper audience it's got to a positive thing. It'll certainly have a bigger impact on the market than the Josh White and Glen Campbell reissues. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Slipnot has an amazing market. I don't get it, but I wish I did.
"What the hell did this guy learn??? "
Hmm lets see.. Do what you love and be passionate about it, no matter what it is.
then there's the...
Make more money than he knows what to do with so he can spend time with his family, send his kids to the best schools and pretty much do whatever the hell he wants to at this point. |
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Location: big island | with no consideration for the negative impact on millions of other kids who listen to his raunch. garbage in - garbage out. this man thinks serial killers are the coolest people ever. |
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Location: closely held secret | or...
"In spite of the fact I have minimal talent, look like a mass-murderer, smell like I just crawled out of a grave and glorify death, violence and generally all things ugly, I seem to have plenty of money for all the disgusting urges I could ever hope to fulfill." |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by muzza:
Sorry, I'm still missing something. It just looks like a regular elite T with white purfling and an enormous serial number. another keyboard ruined... :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Look at me!
I'm an Endorsee!!
At least I spell checked mine...
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Location: south east Michigan | Face it gents.. there is a whole "different" demographic out there besides us FOGPOGs.
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by muzza:
Sorry, I'm still missing something. It just looks like a regular elite T with white purfling and an enormous serial number. another keyboard ruined... :D |
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Location: enid, ok | Good show, Miles! Not a fan of Slipknot or most other artists of that ilk, but I do tend toward heavier and more involved music. I don't care for James Taylor's or Jim Croce's music, but I don't go around griping about it. |
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| Originally posted by MWoody:
[QB] Look at me!
I'm an Endorsee!!
At least I spell checked mine...
Whew.... thought you had finally decided to use some of the Abalone... and fell overboard :D
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Location: 6 String Ranch | They are doing something.
We love to bitch cause they never do anything, but they have someone the kids seem to like.
Yes, I think it is a pile of toultol fookin rooubish but I guess that just means I'm too old to get it.
Of course in Asheville yesterday we saw a bumpersticker that said "I'm not too old, the music just SUCKS!" I suspect that's in responce to the "If it's too loud, you're too old" sticker that was right next to it. I like the first sticker. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Didn't (y)our folks say the same thing about Alice Cooper? Johnie Carson thought he was okay, and now he's just another old rock dude who made his pile.
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I wish my kids would listen to heavy metal instead of the boy band type of stuff they listen to - drives me crazy. Thankfully ipods mean that I don't usually have to listen to it, only in the car together. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I'm sorry, those guys just don't fit the Ovation demographic. None of them are bearded, bald or named Karen or Andrea. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I don't think there's any virtue in supporting your family by whatever means possible. That would make robbery, drug-dealing, the porn business, mafia, etc. perfectly acceptable.
Hendrix wasn't cultivating an interest in death and murder in a generation of kids. There's a lot of music that I don't care for but I realize it's just my opinion. This shit is simply destructive to a generation. An older generation should always be looking to help the next group to be leaders and good citizens of the world. Show me anything redeemable in this group's material.
The making of money or selling guitars for a company just doesn't make up for the damage done to young minds.
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
I This shit is simply destructive to a generation. And they said they same about Elvis, the Beatles, the Stones, Punk, Rap and the rest. You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff, and their abilty to filter out what is right and wrong. If a survey was conducted among Slipknots fans as to who feels like commiting murder after listening to their music, I think you'd find it would be none.
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I think a study of concerts deaths might find The Stones and The Who to be more of a threat to personal health..... |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | "You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff"
And you are underestimating their impressionability (is that a word?).
It's all part of the same slippery slope. It starts with what we consider today as fairly benign (Elvis, Beatles, etc.), but shocking back then. It moves on to Punk, Gangsta Rap, etc., which were a little shocking when they were new, but not so much now, as our tolerance for this kind of stuff (and morality) shifts. Now, groups that glorify death are only a little shocking, as our morality shifts even more. So, what's next? Ah, the decline of moral civilization... It usually happens so subtly that no one even notices... |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | And...to think...thanks to Muzza...I've become a demographic. Not photographic, halographic, krytographic, geographic or anything more exciting. Just grouped with a bunch of bearded, bald guys (most likely not young.) (Oh, well, at least I'm not bald--and hopefully not bearded....... :D ;) )
Do I like the new page? Not really; but the future isn't about me anymore, because in one sense I am definitely the past. I have the same concerns about it--but Robbie and I are doing our best right where we are to foster Ovationistos and Ovationistas for the future who aren't into that particular genre. How I treat them and encourage them in the here-and-now will have a far greater impact in the long run than a "here today, gone tomorrow" ad campaign.
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Woodrow, it's a good thing I was not partaking of liquids when your personalized gitter came up; I would have needed that new keyboard. Thanks for the good laugh! :D :D
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by bcoombs:
"You are underestimating the intelligence of the kids who listen to this stuff"
And you are underestimating their impressionability (is that a word?).
It's all part of the same slippery slope. It starts with what we consider today as fairly benign (Elvis, Beatles, etc.), but shocking back then. It moves on to Punk, Gangsta Rap, etc., which were a little shocking when they were new, but not so much now, as our tolerance for this kind of stuff (and morality) shifts. Now, groups that glorify death are only a little shocking, as our morality shifts even more. So, what's next? Ah, the decline of moral civilization... It usually happens so subtly that no one even notices... And you think this alleged moral decline is down to a bunch of musicians? Please, enlighten me. Give me some examples of where a specific band/musician or musical genre has led to the moral breakdown of society. And let's have some serious evidence. You know... statistics, graphs, pie-charts. I'm talking "Proof" not just predjudice or hearsay, or a personal distaste for that particular style of music and/or it's fanbase. Maybe you could start with those pesky Hawaiians in 1915, or them damn Darkies with their Blues in the '20's
Lonnie Johson in 1929 sang "Death Is On Your Track" Basically a song that said, among other unpleasantness, if a woman cheats on her man or misbehaves in any way, or if someone cheats at cards they're gonna get murdered as a consequence.. There's a song recorded almost 80 years ago "Glorifing" (sic) death and murder. I guess that must've been the start of the rot. Or maybe they just thought it would sell a bunch of records and they'd make a ton of money cause the public likes that kind of stuff.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The decline of civilization is nie!
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. Ovation Fan Club predicts end of the world due to music, news at 11 |
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Location: big island | music is a spiritual thing. spiritual things are spiritually discerned. some music my spirit agrees with and is elevated by, some it doesn't and senses a baser element that it wants nothing to do with. i believe we are all subject to this truth regardless of our musical preferences. |
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Location: Scotland | Randy, That is not a "truth" it's a personal opinion.
There is more music than I can ever listen to in my entire life which I would embrace, enjoy, and learn from. There is more which I will not enjoy, but I can still learn from, and even though I would not choose to listen to it as a means of recreation, I can still accept it as a valid expression of someones art. I don't even consider any of that as sprirituality, for me it's an entirely intelectual process. |
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Location: NJ | "intellectual".
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Location: big island | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
I don't even consider any of that as sprirituality, for me it's an entirely intelectual process. would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Neither, its emotional. |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | checked the Ovation website ... it features one of the members of Slipknot. The blackness of that Ovation he's holding - IMO - brings out that dark, gothic-esque vibe. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by muzza:
Neither, its emotional. yes, muz. music can play on our emotions and the word "emotion" is difficult to define. when most of us consider emotions, we think about the outward expressions such as crying, laughing etc. but, in my opinion, there is something much deeper than that where our emotions are derived from and driven by. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by lanaki:
would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? Neither Dick, here at American Bandstand, all we care about is the DANCE!
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | The definition of 'emotional' is an emotional issue.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I think it depends, sometimes music is a spiritual thing ... I saw David Byrne give a great presentation about this at a concert of voodoo and santaria music. We are hotwired for certain rythyms and sounds to affect us. Now, does this hotwiredness equal spirituality, well, each one of us will have to figure that out on their own. ... wait what was this thread about? |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by lanaki:
[/qb] would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? [/QB]
The playing of an instrument and the performance of music requires intellectual processes along with specific and developed motor skills. Good musicians use these processes and skills to convey mood, feeling and emotion at many levels. If by "spiritual" you imply the influence of some "higher power" or some other intangible, then for me, no, not at all. |
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| Jee's Paul, Give the guy a break, for some people "Spirituality" is not as "intangible" as it is for others. Hell I don't believe in much but I respect others opinions and beliefs and certainly their feelings about music.
But your Scottish. We, each of us, has our problems. I can understand your still angry because we used to come over and conquer your people in the old days. Sorry about all that....... I Guess one of my many problems is; I don't respect others national pride, I'll have to work on that one.
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Location: NJ | . . but, . . . . but, . . . what about the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay?? |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
And you think this alleged moral decline is down to a bunch of musicians? ... [/QB] Well, I apologize about your breath (what kind of bait did you use, anyway?)...
So, tell me where I said that the decline of civilization is ALL due to music? I said it's all part of the same slippery slope (meaning one part of many). Methinks you read into my post what you want to make your point, or make it look like I'm some kind of extremist nutcase. If you really think that these types of influences don't have an affect (especially on our children), well, I guess I don't know what to say... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Woof ... this topic just got boring. |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | So that's my problem. Too much Donkey Kong in my youth... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ok this might make it interesting..
A - "The definition of 'emotional' is an emotional issue." the kidz call it "emo" now.
B - The SlipKnot guitarist seems to be gone from Ovation artists lists and homepage. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Yup, still there.
He's so paranoid about having his guitar stolen, he's tattooed the serial number on his arm.
You're right, this guy IS smart.
Anyway, what's SEVEN got to do with SnotRag? |
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anyone check the ovation homepage today?