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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Ever since I sold my original 1758-6 a few years ago, I have regretted it. I have such a history with that guitar; I met my wife while playing it on tour in Russia in 1996 and recorded and toured with it for 10 years: from 1988 until 1998. These with the white tops were made in such a small quanity that most factory archives do not even list the color in most references to this model. So when I saw this one come up for sale last week, I decided to watch it. Well, I won the auction and I am driving to Roanoke tomorrow or Wed. to get it. The best thing of all is the unbelievable price: here is the url: 1758-6 Ebay
These are such great guitars as all those who got a chance to play my sunburst one at the hotel lobby can attest to. It was meant to be I believe! I'll post pictures and give a full report as soon as I have it home! :D
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Location: SoCal | You stole that guitar! Congratulations. Definitely post a full report and pics... we'll be looking forward to it. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I almost went sniping for that one! My family lives in Roanoke, so I could have avoided shipping. If I can't have it, I'm glad someone here does.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey Paul, thanks, I have to agree...BTW, how's the OFC slothead doing? I sure enjoyed meeting you and the rest of the usual suspects in CT. Hope we get a chance to do it again! I will post details asap.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thanks Patch, it will have a good home...BTW, this has been a hard night for those with GAS to choose from...a 1976 Patriot sold just a few minutes before this closed and see my post of the Adamas thats up in the AM...It looks sweet! Roanoke is my old stomping grounds...I went to Ferrum College...nice memories! I plan to drive up to get the guitar...its a 2 and a half hr. drive...Beats wating on UPS! ;) |
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Location: big island | unreal, mike! i believe it was meant to be too. what a steal of a deal. beautiful 12 string! i'm still hoping you can make it to asheville. bring this one with ya!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thanks Randy...I'm still trying to figure out a way...if so I sure will bring this! Not an Adamas yet, but the Elite's are sweet! Sitting here playing my T-bolt Snake right now...unreal for a SSB...The mothership really did a great job on this...it sings acoustically and can really take off plugged in...I hope to bring that as well.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Thanks Mike... You grabbed that right outta my hands! :mad: I was Bidder 4! Look familiar?
(See Ultra thread)
She-ute, I got a twelve-string. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Sorry Arthur...I didn't know...with the new system of hiding identies on ebay its impossible to know who is actually bidding, and the same thing happened last week to me on the 47RI up on the bay...To be honest, I had no idea it would go as low as it did...my bid was way under what most other recent 1758's have gone for and I was surprised it won the auction. I expected it would go for $550 or so...I bid $400...There is a nice 1858-2 for sale on the bay: 1858 on the Bay Hope you find the one you want...again, my apologies!
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | No big deal. I got guitars. But you got that at the last second. I liked the guitar, but I really don't like the color anyway.
It inspired me to get out my 12-string.
But I me still waiting on the next $300 1718.
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Location: RI. That small State out East | Great score Mike!
Nice 12 at a "very" low price. I hope she turns out to be a real winner.
As for the "snake"... You put on a show for all to see what that guitar can do... Just out of the
"The Ship" hospital and you pushed it to the limit. I'm still shaking my head on that one.
Other will see it when the tour video hits the street.
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | You got it for $50 more than I bid, which is still a fine buy. The white tops ARE rare. I sold a white 1868 to Erniewan a few months ago which would look great alongside that 12. |
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio | Hey Paul, you mean the 1767 white legend..!!
If you have any elites in white, let me know !
I did see that 1758 on there too..
I have my 1758-4 at the mother ship right now..
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Ernie -- oops! You're right; it was a Legend.
Mike, it would still look good by your 12, though more like a cousin than a sibling. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I'm leaving within the next ten minutes for Roanoke to get the guitar...found out its a '91 and was the favorite guitar of its one and only previous owner...sadly he passed several months ago. It will have a good home. I'll update later today!
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Location: Shotley Bridge, Northern England | Great buy there Mike. You got your 1758 even cheaper than I got mine! And I thought I got a great deal! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190067598759
I was watching your auction as well. Great catch!
And yours has no really deep cracks. I bet it cleans up just fine. Yep, eBay favours the buyer, rather than the seller, at the moment.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I just got back and have my new baby cleaned, polished, restrung, and pictures taken. I am going to have lunch, tune it, play it, post pic's and report in a few...ITS BEAUTIFUL! ;) Very nice 12 Hillwalker and also at a great price...very similar to my 1758-1 currently getting the spa treatment(fortunatly it had no cracks...just a couple of things needed attention...report to follow when it returns) (hmmm...should be done soon :D ). Back in a few...
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | That was a quick trip Mike! Glad that the both of you are home safe and sound. Look forward to the pics and to seeing it in person at the Southern Jam.
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Location: East Tennessee | Mike,
Great price and a great guitar. I have a 1758 Sunburst. They are a great sounding 12 string. :cool: |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Okay, lunch is over, guitar tuned, I have played long enough to get the strings stretched and so here is my report on this latest Jem from eBayland:
Condition: The guitar and case were filthy; possibly the dirtiest I have ever seen: the strings wee green and filth was everywhere: I doubt it has ever been cleaned. The case was worse: reflective tape all over the case: top, back ans sides. It must have been in Mardi Gras or something. Anyway, detuned and cut the strings off; took a damp cloth with mild soapy dish detergent water (very damp; not wet) and cleaned/washed the entire guitar, dried it with a soft towel and then used a light polish (very sparce application of Pledge Clean & Shine Orange to the CLOTH (not to the Guitar) and then working quickly polished and buffed w/dry side of cloth. Cleaned Headstock (you could have grown potatoes in back of the nut and bridge on this) and polished same. Same with the case except: used a brillo pad to remove excess tape residue and years of filth and paint from rough bumps/scrapes. FOR YOUR INFO: These black thermoplastic cases clean up almost like new with this technique. Took 30 minutes to remove mailing address labels from inside the guitar (even one on the battery box cover) and to remove an old homemade sound hole cover made from a piece of linolum and duct tape which had been afixed under neath the epaulets inside the bowl (only one was present: the tape residue from both is still there for another day). there is a small repaired 1 inch crack olong the right side of the bridge (can be seen in photo's if look carefully: it is sealed from the inside and is tight...may have the spot refinished at some point but purely asthetical and not a problem (there is evidence of an identical abet shorter one along the left side as well...it is also sealed.) Also just a bit of flacking of finish on the top of the headstock...not a problem, again just asthetics. (but actually one needs to look to see it up close). I restrung with Elixir's (Nanoweb 12-string light/.010 - .047), tuned it up and gave it a whirl...very nice sound and great action (the neck was straight...no attention required). The longer I play it the better it sounds as the strings settle in place and as per most 1758's: the sound is balanced, clear, can go from from wisper quiet to LOUD, and is capo friendly. In short: What a Great Guitar! Worth every bit of the $305.33 I paid for it. Here are the pic's:       
Well, that's it for now...I will play it through the PA at church and then at the Southern Jamboree in Ashville on June 10th. Hope you enjoyed this as I sure did in getting it. I finally feel like I have my old friend back and safe with the family at last!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Please excuse the spelling...three hours of l=sleep last night: baby, 3 am rescue Squad call (I drive), and leaving at 6am for Roanoke...Ohh well, as a friend of mine once said: "you can sleep when you're dead". Problem is the older I get the scarier that gets! :D :D :D
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Location: SoCal | Mike, that guitar is beautiful. But it's not worth what you paid for it. It's worth about 4 times what you paid for it. Congratulations! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thanks Paul! It's pretty sweet (I just played "Can't Find My Way Home" and both kids were dancing and having a great time...yes, even the baby boy at 4 1/2 months) Click on my name to see apic of me in 1989 w/my old 1758-6P... :cool: |
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Location: big island | mikey!! i like it!! wow.
by the way, i hope you are playing it in asheville on june 9th with us. if you wanna spend the night and play it there on the 10th without us, that'll be cool too! ;) |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | my bad...of course I do appreciate the invite for the 9th and I'll be there....I must get some sleep...
George Washington to his men before crossing the Delaware: "Get in the Boat Men"....Wise words! Sleep Deprevation makes finding the boat nearly impossible... :eek: |
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio | Looks like one of the later white finishes.
They switched near the end of the run, where the whites didn't yellow over time.
These later paint jobs were "brighter" with less pearl metallic.
nice looking piece. enjoy !
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Actually, this is the white pearl (6P) they used for the Elites: very few were painted with this color and most of them were in the late 80's: circa late 88 and 89; the ocassional white pearl tops were done later but were not catalogued after 1989 (the only year that the Elites were said to be available in this color.) All of them yellowed to some degree over time; this one is no exception (although it is whiter than some including my original late '88: it is the pearl reflection in the light (sunlight or stage light)that makes them appear bright white.
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio | Understood and agreed,
but Ovation changed the formula that they used for the whites near the end of the campaign aroung 1990.
The only reason I know this for a fact is that I work for the company that supplies all the coatings materials Ovation uses. I actually work in the same building that they are produced in Strongsville, Ohio. (I'm sure I QC'd a ton of paint over the years that eventually made it to our guitars.)
PPG has been Ovation's supplier for as long as I can remember. Even their newer UV cured systems are purchased right from PPG Strongsville.
It was scary, there was a PPG refinish book in the R-D room on the 2007 tour. (right below all the hanging milestone guitars). I was paging through it, it was about 10 years old, and I found my name in it !!
It was an old training manual on how to apply our paint and maintain all the application equipment.
We can confirm from CWK about the reason for the change, but I always thought it was for ease of application and a more even appearance on the guitar top. I'm sure spot repairs were impossible with the pearl. Even new, the later whites were much brighter, using much more titanium dioxide than the earlier formulas.
I like them both, but always had a fondness for the earlier jobs that would yellow to a nice ivory, like a typical 86 collector.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Wow, all very cool...I wish you could see this paint though...it is just like the paint on my 88...and a tom of pearl…I'll try to take a picture of it in the room light...it is yellowed; my 88 turned from years of playing in clubs...tobacco smoke surely helped...But, thanks for the info...who knows...It is very unusual to find a 1758 in this color...actually only the 2nd one I have ever seen and I have seen a ton of them...but anyway, I am thrilled to have it and to be able to share it with the community...that’s what makes this club so unique...like a large family...plenty of dysfunctionality built in but...the love of Ovation and Adamas guitars keeps us anchored...I'm just thankful to be a part!
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Location: Shotley Bridge, Northern England | Mike, Thanks for the pictures and description; one of the really enjoyable things about this board is being able to share the enjoyment of other members' successes, even at a distance. Erniewan is right: that IS a keeper!
I have to confess that when I first saw the listing I was completely unaware that these were ever made in that colour. I even wondered if someone had painted the guitar white! (hangs head in shame). Thanks to Erniewan for the background information.
You certainly have made a great purchase there; all the more so considering you originally had one of these rare beauties and can now recapture the enjoyment once more of playing it. Enjoy it.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hillwalker: Thanks my friend...I appreciate your kind words and wishes!
Erniewan: Thanks also for the information...I looked for more info on this guitar...originally sold for $1575 in 1991 and $1399 in 1989 ($1349 in '88). The pearl paint is unique as I have seen the 86 collectors series 6 and 12's and that paint looks to be a different shade of white (like Gibson's artic white) although it also had pearl...ppg would know I am sure. Thanks again for the cool info. |
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Location: Shotley Bridge, Northern England | Oh Mike, and thanks for the brillo pad tip. I have a case to clean up; I'll give that a try!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I think you'll be pleasantly surprised...I should have taken a picture of the guitar ans case before I started cleaning...but it was just too gross to wait. Let me know how it works (hint: keep an extra damp cloth to wipe off the extra soap from the brillo as you go...keeps from having a mess all at once..I just do a little at a time...I just looked at the Elites case and hard to believe its the same one I got yesterday morning.
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Location: Thailand | Congrats, MusicMike.
Very very Beautiful 1758. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thank you Provation...it plays as good as it looks also. By the way, what an inpressive collection you have; I enjoyed looking through your gallery of photos. You are a blessed man...a beautiful family as well!
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I, for one, think that your getting this guitar for this price was especially terrific just so the rest of us could read the story of its restoration. Props! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thank you brother Paul...I do love it. Its such a great feeling to rescue a great guitar and put it back at the top of its form. My 1115-1 pre-pacemaker 12 will be getting the spa treatment soon at the mothership...It needs a little more work than I can give it: but it is such a sweet little 12.
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