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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | http://cgi.ebay.com/EARLY-AMERICAN-GUITAR-BELIEVED-N-Y-MARTIN-1833-... |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | someone would have to have A LOT of extra $ laying around to pay that much for THAT guitar. If it sells, they better send someone with a white coat and a big butterfly net along with it. :eek: |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 308
| $500,000???
Someone should tell the seller he needs professional help! :D :D :D |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | If this guitar was in fact made during the few years that Christian ran his shop in NY City before moving to Narareth PA (1833-1836) then it is indeed a very valuable correctors piece. However the bridge and headstock look much later to me. I don't know about a half Mil, but it's certainly valuable. Dave |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | too many 0s in that number |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I sent him an email: he needs to get a mirror and look at the underside of the top...there should be a pencil signature and date there; or at least a date. The case is not something I am used to seeing in a Martin; while it is wooden, it is not in the shape (coffin) Martin usually used. I had an 1861 in my shop back in the early 80's. Gruin valued it at somewhere around 5 to 7 thousand then and it was in great shape; playable and un-molested. This is in pretty bad shape...but who knows...there are people who pay millions for a bit of a cheese sandwich...go figure.
Blessings... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I agree Dave...bridge is exactally like the one on the 1861 I had in '84...Rare...yes....half a mill....???? It looks like a mid to late 1800's to me. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Way to many 000000000000000s |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Tupperware:
valuable correctors piece. Chinese tonight Tupp? |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | One would think that the seller would actually confirm the guitar's lineage before placing a starting bid equal to the GNP of Kurdistan...
Yes, I know... anybody willing to pay that much is likely to know what they are looking at but, look at the discussion already starting here... at the Ovation board. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970
Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I'll bet money that this guitar is not a martin at all.In fact i have the same guitar.What gave it away was the guitar heel meets the neck at the top and has a wierd 45 degree agle cut on the neck and heel where they meet..
Here is the heel on mine
here is the heel on his
Most likely this guitar like mine was built between 1835-1850 by a company called "Ashborn" of Wolcottville CT..They built guitars for different music companys.Mine was a William Hall& son brand.It is a style 1 model.This company was one of Martins biggest competitors early on...Mine is in excellent original condition and valued at $1750.00..The one on e-bay is not in good condition and i would say is not worth $1000.00.If this was truelly a real Martin why woudn't they have sent detailed pictures to martin to verify it? My guess is they really dont want to know.. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970
Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Also,notice how the heel tapers from about 3 inches to about 3/4 inch from front to back of guitar.Martin never did this.. |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Great investigative work, Sam! :cool: BTW, still LOVE the 1537!! :D |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970
Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Jim, i miss the 1537.If i didn't have so many nice adamas guitars and the all wood adamas custom that 1537 would have never left my house. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Sam is absolutely correct here, a Martin it ain't, and even if it was he's being way too ambitious with those zeros. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1138
Location: CT | Thanx for the info, I was gonna put in a bid. :D |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I emailed the seller with the info I had posted earlier in this thread: here is his reply: Thank you for your kind letter. The gentleman who owns this guitar had it appraised about 25 years ago. The older man said it was worth at least, two hundred and fifty thousand back then. And the owner has spoken with the Martin Museum, Who agreed the guitar is of great value. Thank you for your comments and advice Please have a great day!
Older man said...shoot, ignorance is bliss!
Blessings... |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "American Cedar neck" |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 308
| Thanks for the info. I thought that William Hall & Son Ashburn guitars had laminated back and sides ((spruce interior, rosewood exterior)...am I wrong? |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111
Location: Nashville TN. | If its real CF Martin should be willing to authenticate it. |
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Joined: June 2007 Posts: 67
Location: upstate ny | what is that seller smoking?
...pathetic excuse for a scam artist. haha |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I was gonna throw in a bid, but shipping to Australia would've put an extra 400 bucks on it, which puts it just outta my price range. |
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Joined: June 2007 Posts: 67
Location: upstate ny | Originally posted by muzza:
I was gonna throw in a bid, but shipping to Australia would've put an extra 400 bucks on it, which puts it just outta my price range. haha. nice |
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