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Location: upstate ny | I just bought a celebrity deluxe (havnt even gotten it in the mail yet) but I know I want to have black machines...so I was wondering if anyone had a whole set of black machines that would fit my deluxe? I want them to hold well..and I dont care if theyre used or anything.
If you do, please let me know, and how much youre looking for. I cant wait to get this guitar!! thanks |
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Location: upstate ny | also, i dont know if anyone would even be interested, but the gold tuners that come with the guitar could be thrown in the deal for a trade...(the owner says they are amazing tuners...i just wish they werent gold) thanks |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Also, someone may want to swap?
Personally, if I was not getting schallers, I'd get Planet Waves auto trims. They're great. And they make a black version. |
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Location: upstate ny | ya...a swap would be good :)
ill have to check out the ones you recommended. |
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Location: upstate ny | and by the way, they dont HAVE to be schallers...just something of equal quality..and black ;) |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | You can find a new set of Planet Waves on ebay for $40.00 (or at least I've found it twice) |
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Location: upstate ny | all they have now is 6..no 3 and 3's.
im still interested if anyone has a set of 3+3 they want to sell or trade. thanks |
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Location: Munich, Germany | One thing you should consider:
I guess the tuners on your Celebrity (depends on the year when built) will be Pings (screws on the downside), no Schallers (screws on the inside). So, if you change them, the Ping drill holes are not the same the Schallers need - you will have six drill holes that you have to seal, if that bothers you.
There are also Schaller Tuners with a pin (without a seperate screw to fix them), but I don't know if Ping ever made tuners with pins.
For best solution - in the case, your Celebrity has Pings - I would call the mothership. They have Pings in black.
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Location: upstate ny | ok..i was a little confused by that. If I just buy the schaller M6 tuners will they work?? are you saying I have to drill holes?? Could you clerify what holes I would have to fill in?? (sorry for the stupidity) and what are you referring to when you said "the mothership"? sorry again..and thanks for the help! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Personal opinion, I think you should wait until you get the guitar and then decide if you like the tuners that are on it or not. Easiest would be to just swap the buttons. Of you are going to install complete new tuners then best if you can find some with the same mounting screw locations. If not, just plug the old holes with wood putty, dab on a little dark stain, and drill pilot holes for the new ones. But I would take it slow. Dave |
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Location: upstate ny | thanks dave ;)
I wasnt aware that there was that much involved. I though it was kind of "hot swapable"
I know im not going to like gold machines, but i guess I can just go with the buttons...that just means that the rest is still gonna be gold...
is painting an option? |
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Location: upstate ny | one more thing..
will the large shcaller buttons fit on the celebrity deluxe even though they arent schaller tuners?
sorry for all these questions. I honestly didnt know this was going to be so in-depth. lol |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | schaller and ping buttons are usually interchangable (I think).
I'm not sure the look you are going for, but I had a guitar once with gold buttons that were pretty badly tarnished. I covered the (both) "faces" of the buttons with black electrical tape, leaving the rest of the gold exposed. It actually looked kind of cool.
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Location: upstate ny | I was actually thinking of electrical tape. haha.
Has anyone tried paint???
It doesnt have to be super pretty..I just really hate gold (if you couldnt tell)
if they were perloid,chrome, or ebony I wouldnt care...but gold...eiw... |
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Location: upstate ny | still looking... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | If Schaller has moved to Hong Kong then these are Schallers...
If they'll fit they are available.
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Location: upstate ny | do you know how I would tell if they will fit?? if not, does anyone have any tips? I really want to avoid drilling(sorry, im really new to this)
those do look like exactly what I want though.
thanks so much! |
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Location: upstate ny | ps. they dont have to be schallers...just something that fits. the tuners that are on their now are gold ping.
heres a pic if that would help to determine if the ones you have will fit
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Made Me Look!...
While you were getting that photo, I was looking at all my O's and C's (and a Korean Balladeer)...
The holes on my 1112 would match the screw-hole location on the Schallers, but all my other tuners look just like the Pings you got.
[only none of them are Pings... I don't think...
And I ain't looking again!] |
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Location: upstate ny | sooo..what does all that mean? lol.
will the ones mwoddy have fit mine or no?? thanks for spending the time! (even though im a little confused)
i never guessed in a million years it was gonna be this hard to find black tuners to fit my guitar without drilling... |
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Location: upstate ny | ok..now i see...i dont think those will fit. am i right??
uuuugh!!!! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | You could deal with drilling another little hole for the screw, and fill the old one with wood putty...
Or (my personal favorite) break-off a toothpick...
and stain it.
But the next problem would be "What is the diameter of the pin itself?"
[You'd think something like that would be a standard size... But experience shows me that things never work out so nicely...] |
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Location: Shotley Bridge, Northern England | Koenig Kurt mentioned the location of the attaching screwholes on the tuners. Your pic shows the Ping screws at '6 oclock' when viewed attached, whereas MWoody's will be at '8 oclock'. So you'll need to drill to use these. You should be able to find Pings that match exactly. Remember Arthur's comment too; the shafts SHOULD be the same diameter (I think most modern tuners are 10mm shafts), but they could differ if you are buying non-exact replacements.
Or you could just change the buttons...
It's not as difficult as perhaps all this discussion makes it sound. Drilling screwholes is no big deal (a modelling pin drill held in the palm of your hand; not a power tool, but an old fashioned 'twisty' drill) would work well here. Drilling out tuner shafts is a bigger job, needing power tools, a steady hand and the guitar firmly clamped. There's a risk here of chipping the surrounding headstock wood if you aren't careful. I would live with the gold Pings in that case unless you are confident.
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Location: Upper Left USA | I thought mine were more or less at 7:15.
Try to avoid drilling any more holes if possible. It won't look clean at all.
There are a plethora of tuner configurations out there but the accepting hole in the peghead is usually just under 3/8" (it's in millimeters).
Watch Fleabay and the right ones will show up. |
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Location: upstate ny | what brands/specifications should I look for for the screw configuration I have?? thanks so much guys |
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Location: upstate ny | i found these on ebay. they look like they should fit. what do you think?
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Location: Munich, Germany | Looks like Pings. Should be exactly what you are looking for.
Screw location is right.
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Location: upstate ny | thats what i thought. cool, i think my problem is finally solved! I mean, theyre prolly not the greatest tuners in the world(or anywhere close) but then again, neither are pings. thanks everyone. Ill let you know if they fit. |
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Location: upstate ny | kurt,
i was looking at your guitars and I absolutly love the Adamas W597 Musik Meyer Special Edition! Where did you get that and how much was it? If I ever find one of those i think I might have to get it. |
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Location: upstate ny | crap, theres one on ebay. good thing i dont have $1200 otherwise it would be gone! lol |
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Location: Munich, Germany | There is a "Musik Meyer Edition" Adamas on the bay?
Then 1200 USD is a good price. There have only been 5 built for the german market.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Did you ever find your black tuners?
These are on ebay now:
Black tuners |
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| Crimson, Do you think those tuners will fit a 1767 Legend? I guess I need to do a little research. When I can afford it I'd really like to get the ebony schallers... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Steve - all depends on the screw hole configuration. These seem to match up with what Unb was looking for. If these don't, I'm sure there are sets on ebay that do.
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want to buy: black Schaller tuners for my celebrity deluxe