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Location: Buffalo,NY | ...Early 2000's "Melissa Etheridge" 12-string Acoustic Guitar? Thank you.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Tom, I answered in your other thread about 12's.
Hold out for a 1688. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | The textured top ones are the way to go. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | yup |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't know much about used prices on a ME12. But make sure you pay as little as possible so you can at least break even when you resell it to buy an Adamas 1, 2 or U681 12-string. Dave |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | As suave as Dave is, he's probably more right.
Come to think about how suave Dave is, he's almost GOT to be more right. |
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Location: SoCal | Even tho' Dave is usually full of sh*t (as he described in another thread), in this case, he is dead on right. Hold out for a 1688. You won't regret it nearly as much as you would if you settled for a lesser 12... |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | ...not that the ME's aren't nice. They are. But given your druther's... |
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Location: SoCal | in previous posts...discussion about the playability and "voice" between an Adamas I 1688 and the Adamas II 1685. I can't tell the difference and I would guess others can't. Main difference is the headstock and bridge.
Real difference is about a thousand dollars. Can't get a 1688, then at least grab a 1685.
Maybe not current prices but what I would expect...
1688 $2,200-$2,600 for used
1685 $1,200-$1,600 for used
Special/Custom order would be a lot more...would need to have a dealer quote it out (my dealer is Al.) Only New Jersian I would trust with my wallet (he has my credit card on file).
I have had a couple of emails if I would sell one. Stephen said I had a bunch. Only have two Adamas 12's plus four Custom Legends, an early shiny bowl, a Hamer Newport, a Wurlitzer, a 1688, and a 1685. Personally, if I did offer either of my -8's, min bid would be $2,800 for the 1688, $1,800 for the 1685. Why? 'cause I don't want to sell. :D
All seriousness, try to find a 1685. You won't lose any money if you want a 1688 later. Either way, you have a fantastic 12-string. |
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Location: Buffalo,NY | What would the difference in price be between a 1688-8 and a 1688-5 ? Are older 1688s any different than newer ones ? Thank you.
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Location: SoCal | Difference in price due to color? Nothing.
Differences in 1688 over the years -- electronics, color of top trim ring -- I don't think there's any other differences. Anybody else? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Nothing else I can think of....pride of ownership sometimes increases the value quite a bit! ;) |
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Location: SoCal | pride of ownership and SATISFACTION...
price or value is relative to your GAS...GAS is relative to whether you have to make the decision to buy based on a description and photos or if you had the opportunity inspect and to play it, GAS may increase.
Pre-amp? Anything from a 2-knob to an OP-50 w/XLR - unless you have a special use (i.e., need for EQ), only a reflection of the guitar's age. Even though the OP-50 w/XLR is a major improvement, IMHO the early models with just a vol/tone command a higher price.
Color? The original -8 blue seems to be the most popular which means the more potential bidders (supply and demand). Fortunately, I like the -7 (and now the -2) which means I saved a few $'s.
Are all of the 12-strings the same? My 1688 was a special order based on the original specs (delivered 12/04). The neck is different than the 1685 - the feel of the 1685 is closer to a 1681 or 1687 6-string (as the Custom Legend 12-slothead or standard headstock is closer to the Custom Legend 6). Of course, the 12-string neck is wider than a 6-string but I am talking about the depth and shape. The 1688 is about half way between an Adamas II and a Martin. Great neck, maybe only noticeable the first few times you play it or if you've been playing an Ovation or Adamas 6-string for a period of time and then pick up the 1688.
There is a difference in the weight of the neck. However, with a good strap, the extra weight of the 1688 is not noticeable.
Problem with all of this is that you usually have to buy to try. Only if someone lives close enough to you or you go to a regional get-together will you know. The first 1687, the 1685, and the 1688 - only opportunity I had to try was to buy one first.
Warning, if you try a textured top...U681T, 1681, 1685, 1687, 1688, 47RI, or the OFC - this conversation is over, there is no going back.
So take the plunge or find one you can play. |
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Location: Buffalo,NY | When it comes to a 12 string(or even a 6) I prefer to have an onboard tuner as I have become spoiled; however now that I think about it my PRS 12 String doesn't have one.
One 1688 has the Optima electronics with tuner and one has the OP-24 with only volume and 3 band EQ. One is Blue and one is black; $500 difference in asking price.
Many decisions to make
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | If it is an OP-24+, that's cool. But regular old OP-24 wth no pre-shape or mid-shift...
Go for the Optima!
(if you play it acoustic, neither matters)
I'm good at spending your money. Now if it was my money, $500 is a major consideration.
[Especially since $419 is the most I've paid for any of my guitars... So far! :p ]
Also, Black really shows fingerprints! [don't know how dark the blue is...] |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Tom, IMHO after using the Optima, (and all the rest) I think it's the best preamp they've made so far. Plus, I don't think the fingerprint thing is anything to worry about on textured top guitars. My UTE never did show any, nor did my 1681. (satin finish and all) |
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Location: Japan | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Black really shows fingerprints! [don't know how dark the blue is...] Only ones the fingerprints will show on will be the SMT's and CVT's though. If it's a textured top, no fingerprints.
Heck, hiding fingerprints is why they made the textured top in the first place! :D |
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