Book Elite Estate Sale
Steve
Posted 2007-09-08 2:00 PM (#312690)
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Ebay# 130148947472 Looks pretty mint to me...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-08 2:37 PM (#312691 - in reply to #312690)
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Ovation
Book Elite
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-08 3:39 PM (#312692 - in reply to #312690)
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..also interesting there was never a reserve...they had to know this would bring enough serious bids, I guess..
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-09-08 3:42 PM (#312693 - in reply to #312690)
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"Schotler tuners??" really ??
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-08 3:50 PM (#312694 - in reply to #312690)
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..yeah, I sent Him an email on that one, he just got back with me...maybe he'll make the correction..
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-08 4:18 PM (#312695 - in reply to #312690)
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These are nice guitars.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-09-08 8:45 PM (#312696 - in reply to #312690)
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"This belonged to a millionaire, who never palyed it."

Go figure. :confused:
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TexasDoc
Posted 2007-09-08 10:35 PM (#312697 - in reply to #312690)
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Beautiful!
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bvince
Posted 2007-09-09 6:11 PM (#312698 - in reply to #312690)
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My Guess is about $1200. Anybody else wanna take a guess?
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bvince
Posted 2007-09-09 6:38 PM (#312699 - in reply to #312690)
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How many of these were built?
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-09-09 6:46 PM (#312700 - in reply to #312690)
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Not enough apparently. And enjoy that AI. That's a gorgeous guitar.
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couchflyer
Posted 2007-09-09 7:11 PM (#312701 - in reply to #312690)
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Wow It went ofr $1377.00. I was hoping it would have went for less, and then I would have won it.
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bvince
Posted 2007-09-09 7:44 PM (#312702 - in reply to #312690)
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WOW! I knew it would go High, but I didn't think that high. It WAS is pretty outstanding condition though. The winning bidder is apparently in Italy. If I were looking for one, that would be one to have. I wonder however if the abalone along the edges of the fretboard effects the way it plays?

I remember back around 1996 when I was playing my 1537, a friend walked in with one of these that he purchased in a pawn shop for $425.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-09 10:26 PM (#312703 - in reply to #312690)
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around 1996 when I was playing my 1537, a friend walked in with one of these that he purchased in a pawn shop for $425.
And 1960's SG's were around $1500 to $2200 too...now I've seen them for $25,000...
I could just scream.... :eek: :p
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-09-10 1:36 AM (#312704 - in reply to #312690)
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Hah...25K is on the low end from what I've seen. Check out the GC in West Hollywood...they've got original Strats & SG's on the wall for $50K plus! The scary part is that people actually buy them. I recently heard of an original Les Paul that was "supposedly" played by one of the Beatles that sold at auction for over $300,000. Just a bit excessive if you ask me.
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vision
Posted 2007-09-11 12:16 PM (#312705 - in reply to #312690)
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I bid on the 30th - but lost by alot - I never thought it would go for that much - even if it is on the front cover of the Ovation Book. Whewwwwwwwwwww - someone wanted it bad or it is just worth that much.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-11 12:39 PM (#312706 - in reply to #312690)
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Not to me.
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vision
Posted 2007-09-11 12:59 PM (#312707 - in reply to #312690)
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obviously, not to me either ;)
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bvince
Posted 2007-09-11 2:32 PM (#312708 - in reply to #312690)
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It's a "pretty guitar", but I don't believe it plays or sounds better than any other Elite. As a matter-of-fact, I'd put my cedar-top Elite up against it any time. The 1537s don't cost nearly that much and I'm sure they sound better too.
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-11 2:46 PM (#312709 - in reply to #312690)
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So, for almost $1400 the winning bidder got a premium USA Collectible Ovation guitar, which is close to what it sold for originally, plus it's aged a few years and probably sounds better now than when it was new. I think that's still a good price, but yeah, a 1537 in mint condition would be more like it!...
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-11 3:38 PM (#312710 - in reply to #312690)
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A Book Elite for under $1500 is a hell of a bargin. It's an extremely rare guitar and shows off some of Ovations best-ever asthetic work. Plus exactly HOW MANY Ovation models can lay claim to having their pretty face on the cover of the book. Why would it NOT be worth that much?

People don't buy these because they want the best possible acouctic sound. Vince is right, 1537 sounds far better acoustically. But on the other hand the Book Elite has way better electronics, lighter weight, and a cutaway if you're into that sort of thing. All depends what you are looking for. There IS a reason that ovation makes a few dozen different models.

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-11 3:45 PM (#312711 - in reply to #312690)
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bargain.
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bvince
Posted 2007-09-11 3:55 PM (#312712 - in reply to #312690)
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Hey ... don't get me wrong ... If I had the money to spend, I probably would have been throwing in there with the rest of 'em. (:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-09-11 5:40 PM (#312713 - in reply to #312690)
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I can't tell the difference in the sound of the Books vs. the 87 and I'm not sure the 1537 sounds better than the 87. I know a bunch of you have more discerning ears than me, but I can tell a difference, though it's not a good vs. better thing.
If I didn't have an 87, or if I ever give "mine" to my daughter who thinks it's hers, this Book would be a wonderful replacement. I like the innies and the headstock on the 87 better, though.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-11 5:49 PM (#312714 - in reply to #312690)
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Originally posted by cliff:
bargain.
plastic shoe wearing freak
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-11 6:14 PM (#312715 - in reply to #312690)
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I was only agreeing with what you said . . . StoveKnitter.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-11 6:37 PM (#312716 - in reply to #312690)
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Stove-knitter.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-11 6:55 PM (#312717 - in reply to #312690)
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I have to be honest here. Many would consider that the price paid for this Book Elite is a bargain compared to what I paid for mine. Nonetheless, I bought mine from the original owner, a fellow OFC member, who assured me that it is virtually unplayed and, of course, it looks just as mint as it possibly could. For that reason, I consider that I, too, obtained a good deal, not necessarily based upon price, but rather, its perceived value to me personally.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-11 8:34 PM (#312718 - in reply to #312690)
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Now that it is over, I can say this... It looks like my Celebrity CC44!

Mine has got abalone binding too.
But mine has abalone fret-dots, a five-year warranty, and was alot cheaper.
(and I don't like the outie epaulets that much.)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-12 7:45 AM (#312719 - in reply to #312690)
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To me, it's a wall hanger. I really can't believe they got that much for it. You could find an Adamas II for less or even a UTE if you wait long enough. I think someone here (Mike maybe) picked up an Adamas I for less. Any of those guitars are a much better instrument than this. Maybe it's just that I'm not into the "bling" that much. (just my .02)
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-09-12 8:00 AM (#312720 - in reply to #312690)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
... Any of those guitars are a much better instrument than this.
"Better" is the key word. Everyone has different priorities as far as what they consider better or not. Is an Adamas I necessarily better than the Book Elite? Not to some people.

My common reply to people that ask me "Do you rreally think your (insert name of guitar A here) is better than you (insert name of guitar B here)? I say "YUP! I think it's better, therefor it IS."

I think in the universe of Ovation collecting, playing and fandom we have gotten our sense of value skewed by the rediculously low prices and rapid depreciation of most ovation and adamas models. The rest of the world plays to a much different tune. In our little universe, Yes maybe $1400 is on the high side by most peoples opinion and lots don't think this guitar is anything special. But in the grand scheme of things I'll stand by my comment - at $1400 this guitar was a bargin as well as a bargain.

Dave
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-12 9:48 AM (#312721 - in reply to #312690)
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A serious player will invest what, at least a month's pay for a quality guitar? So, by comparison this was a steal for anyone making at least 20K a year... add to that the collectible value..it was worth at least $1400.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-12 10:00 AM (#312722 - in reply to #312690)
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Is there such a thing as "collectable value" when dealing with Ovations? :rolleyes:
Today's collector is tomorrow's dog.
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-12 10:02 AM (#312723 - in reply to #312690)
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For a handful of models, yeah . . .
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-12 10:10 AM (#312724 - in reply to #312690)
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I had an original Campbell artist, wish I still did.. had an original Deacon, gave it to my daughter..I guess any original Adamas I is collectible..especially the ones made for Campbell, Roy Clark, ...I think Bobby Goldsboro had one too...
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-12 10:26 AM (#312725 - in reply to #312690)
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Well, you can call anything "collectable", but as far as the value increasing, I haven't seen Ovations do much in that area. Kind of like the adds for custom built Harleys, "Have $25000.00 invested, will sell for $15000.00". Not much of an "investment". Of course on Ebay, it just depends on the timing. Some weeks you wouldn't get 600.00 for that book elite, other weeks you can sell a plain celeb for that.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-12 10:30 AM (#312726 - in reply to #312690)
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Congrats Povation! Your second one I believe! Just proves the point that is is an AUCTION; the end results which go the the HIGHEST BIDDER!
Nice Grab!
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-12 10:34 AM (#312727 - in reply to #312690)
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There might have been a Special Issue 12-string Celebrity that was worth $600...(maybe?..)
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povation
Posted 2007-09-12 1:22 PM (#312728 - in reply to #312690)
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Dear MusicMike,
I bid on 29th $1352. Just enough and highest price. I thought I could be the winner at $1200. But not.
Anyway I still have one of this model from MSB OFC member at $995.included the book. Very good price.
povation
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-09-12 1:25 PM (#312729 - in reply to #312690)
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Jim, if you see any other Book Elites for $600, let me know. Tdeej got one for about that, but it had some issues and he sent it right to the Mothership. Haven't seen it since he got it back. I was looking at them for a long time and that was the only one I remember that was under $1000. These are great guitars, easily worth what Povation paid for it. When I win the lottery, I'll buy all his extras from him and drive the values way up for the rest of you guys.
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povation
Posted 2007-09-12 1:46 PM (#312730 - in reply to #312690)
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Please check out ebay item # 140131218778
Ended: Jun-27-07
$835.01
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Waskel
Posted 2007-09-12 1:56 PM (#312731 - in reply to #312690)
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Mark, you've got the '87. That's 98% of a Book Elite.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-09-12 2:03 PM (#312732 - in reply to #312690)
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The 87 is better than a book elite.....
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Waskel
Posted 2007-09-12 2:07 PM (#312733 - in reply to #312690)
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Well, yeah. I just meant 98% of the bling.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-09-12 2:33 PM (#312734 - in reply to #312690)
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The only extra bling on the Book is on the headstock. With the 87 you've got inlays on the fretboard as well as a better finished neck and headstock. Witko's Book only started to look good to me when he had the neck and headstock glossed.

Still had the gay epaulets......
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-12 3:02 PM (#312735 - in reply to #312690)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:

Still had the gay epaulets......
:D
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-09-12 3:07 PM (#312736 - in reply to #312690)
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When my daughter, who was born in 87, finally gets "her" 87, I may have to buy another one. If I had a choice of an 87 or a Book at the same price, it would be a tough one. I also like the looks of the 87 over the Book.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-12 3:41 PM (#312737 - in reply to #312690)
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Povation, plese excuse my wrong information...I think something is confused with the translation...lol! But, you got an even better deal...so congratulations again!
:D
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-12 4:11 PM (#312738 - in reply to #312690)
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FYI: my 87C-5 is going to the mothership for a little refurbishment (finish cracks (moustache) around the bridge)...It really is a great guitar and a true keeper! And the Black -5 finish is a real knockout with the abalone trim...


;)
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Patch
Posted 2007-09-12 4:51 PM (#312739 - in reply to #312690)
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Mike,

How much does it cost to repair the moustache cracks? My '01 Collectors has the same problem. (You can PM me if you don't want to post the cost.)
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povation
Posted 2007-09-12 9:55 PM (#312740 - in reply to #312690)
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Thank you very much, Mike.
Your black 87' Collectors' is so beautiful!
povation
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-13 5:26 AM (#312741 - in reply to #312690)
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Hi Patch: I really am not sure yet as I haven't gotten the estimate...I'm guessing $100 to $200...it needs nothing else and I suppose this wasn't serious...it was like that when I bought it...but I want to be sure the bridge is good etc. I'll let you know

Hi Povation: thanks very much! It really is a rare bird...I have other pic's in my musicmishka gallery...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-09-13 8:49 AM (#312742 - in reply to #312690)
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Mike, You're black 87 is beautiful. Did you buy that from Sam?
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Patch
Posted 2007-09-13 9:48 AM (#312743 - in reply to #312690)
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Thanks Mike,

I look forward to hearing what it costs.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-13 1:43 PM (#312744 - in reply to #312690)
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Paul,
I know it was from an OFC member but for the life of me I can't remember his name; it was an eBay auction back in Feb. or March...I have tried to find the original posts on this but again, no luck...I put it in a new TOL case and used its original one for the 82C which came in a cardboard case...It really is an amazing Ovation!
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Posted 2007-09-13 2:06 PM (#312745 - in reply to #312690)
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Mike, if it was from Sam then I'm kinda amazed that it has any laquer cracks. If memory serves correctly, he bought the guitar on ebay, it had a natural top that had a ton of laquer cracks. He sent it to the factory and they refinished the guitar in black.

If it's that guitar (and I don't know), then it shouldn't have any blemishes on the top....
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-13 2:25 PM (#312746 - in reply to #312690)
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I got my 1537 from Sam, and I can safely say, that man has no bad guitars. He told me it wasn't perfect. I have not found a flaw other than a very little fretwear (that I just had addressed at the factory). Now, it would be hard to tell the difference from a new one (if there were new ones out there) ;)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-13 2:37 PM (#312747 - in reply to #312690)
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Paul, no its not that guitar...the seller is a mamber but not a regular...and this is 100% original:



:cool: :rolleyes:
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