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Location: Utah | What morsels of wisdom can you offer on setting up a music room? The eldest daughter has moved out, freeing up a bedroom for music. After less than a week I find that the kids just leave guitars, mandos, and cases strewn across the floor, inviting someone to step on something breakable.
There is one inside wall which is where the instruments should be kept. Obviously leaning cases against the wall is not a system that works for this crowd.
I'm thinking of having my 6778LX, an Alvarez-Yairi 12, and a mando hanging up. Below on floor stands would be a couple acoustics, maybe the Preacher and my headless electric.
What are your experiences with wall hangars and floor stands in terms of safety? |
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Location: Slightly northwest of Trader Jim | I have 6 guitars hanging in my "man room" WITH "HERCULES" wall hangers, Haven't had a bit of problems. They are a little pricey tho, about $10-15 apiece |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I use the String Swing - no issues whatsoever - same price range as the hercules. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I too use string swings. Just make sure you have a room humidifier before you hang them. |
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Location: East Tennessee | +1 on the Hercules. In the summer humidity is not a problem down here.
Good idea to get a humidity gage and check it. |
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| Originally posted by FlySig:
What are your experiences with wall hangars and floor stands in terms of safety? I wouldn't even consider using them - accidents waiting to happen; but that's just my opinion.
If the guitar isn't in my hand it's in the case - I expect that's why my 74 is pretty much mint condition even though it's been played a fair bit - same with my other guitars. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Originally posted by FlySig:
What are your experiences with wall hangars and floor stands in terms of safety?
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I wouldn't even consider using them - accidents waiting to happen; but that's just my opinion.
If the guitar isn't in my hand it's in the case - I expect that's why my 74 is pretty much mint condition even though it's been played a fair bit - same with my other guitars. I agree: it takes a couple of seconds to open a case and only a second for a guitar to hit the floor/etc. BUT: to each their own...
"A Picture Paints a Thousand Words" |
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Location: SoCal | I initially installed Off The Wall hangers. Their cradles come in standard and wide widths. The cradles are swappable, which makes rearranging easier...
but the added security offered by the Hercules hangers was worth the switch...
If you can't hit the wall studs when you mount your hangers, screw your hangers to a backing board which is screwed to the studs. |
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Location: NJ | I use the OffTheWall's . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I also use the "Off The Walls". Like Noah mentioned, I like the fact that the cradles are swappable. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I've got the Herc mounted on a pretty board, like the picture. Stands are for under that. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
it takes a couple of seconds to open a case and only a second for a guitar to hit the floor/etc. BUT: to each their own... You know, I completely agree. Except that the kids don't. I came into the music room after being away on a 3 day trip to find a 1778LX face up in the middle of the floor, a 1778T-RF laying on the floor in a soft gig bag, and a mandolin laying on the floor in a gig bag.
Strangely, the girls are as paranoid as any of us about their guitars, but they don't think about things like a dog barreling into the room and landing on a guitar, or one of them stumbling and stepping onto something breakable.
Even after discussing it with them, I found a guitar in the middle of the floor while one of the girls went out to get a snack.
My hope is that they will use a floor stand or wall stand if it is right there. |
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Location: SoCal | My kids are now 16 and 14. We've had two dogs forever, it seems, and I've never had a guitar accident from the dogs or kids. All my guitars are either on stands or on the walls.
The only guitar accident was when the winds blew out a window, knocking the 87C face down onto a hardwood floor. And it went to the factory and is as good (if not better) than new. And with the window replaced also, the 87C is back on it's stand in it's original spot.
Man, they're only guitars. Don't be paranoid about them. Anything you can bust up, the factory can fix. We're willing to send our teenagers out in cars to slice and dice on the highways but aren't willing to put guitars out on stands?
Where's the sense of piorities there? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The answer to the question depends on what your threshold for safety is. Is the safest place for a guitar in it's case? I don't know, I've kicked over cases but I've never kicked over a wall. Hell, why not lock the case in a gun safe? But you need to be practical as well and find the best compromise FOR YOU of practical vs. safe. For me cases are out of the question. A guitar in it's case will never ever get played. And the logistics issue of where do you keep 3-4 dozen cases accessible is impossible to solve. For me it's hangers and stands. Ironically the only guitar I ever had stolen out of my house was one that was laying around in it's case, not one hanging on the wall. Dave |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Totally agree with the idea that if it's in the case IT IS IN STORAGE and WON'T get played.
The guitars that I put in the cases are the ones that I eventually decide to sell. The ones on the walls and the stands get played
Of course, my kids are grown and I have no pets so if anything gets damaged, I only have myself to blame. |
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Location: south east Michigan | If something happens to one of my guitars it's going to be when I'm recording. Mic stands, music stands, guitar cords, earphone cords, mic cords, recording cords. Something catches on something and boom goes the dynamite. I just got to remember to take... my... time. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
For me cases are out of the question. A guitar in it's case will never ever get played. And the logistics issue of where do you keep 3-4 dozen cases accessible is impossible to solve. For me it's hangers and stands. Dave 
My problem is not quite as large as yours... But I can relate :rolleyes:
When I started having to label the cases I knew I was in trouble...
It meant either too many guitars, or Alzheimer's, or Both. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And the irony is that in struggling to get to the right guitar case you're gonna knock over a guitar that's on a stand, or knock over a mic into a guitar. Cases are made for transportation, not storage. I mean, you wouldn't keep your clothes in a suitcase would you? Everyone needs to decide what works best for THEM.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | You mean you guys don't lable your cases? That's the first thing I do when a new one arrives. |
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Location: SoCal | You know, I've never even thought to label a case. I've got unique cases for my Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer and for my OFC slothead (ding!). If I'm taking out other guitars, I tend to use the case that the OFC came in 'cause I like the padded handle.
When I've sold guitars, I tend to send them out in the oldest cases I've got, just to get rid of them.
Some time in the next year or so, I may send a guitar back to have some work done on it, at which time, I'll send it in the oldest case I can and buy a new modern case for it to come back in.
Cases is cases is cases...... |
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Location: closely held secret | Same here, Paul. I tend to use the case what's closest to the door. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | If you use Herc hangers, and anchor them to the wall correctly, and pay half attention when putting them on the hanger, there shouldn't be an issue with damage from falling. Now if you hang them low enough for the kids to start swinging them back and forth, that's another issue. |
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Location: big island | curses! it's cases for me. that's incentive enough not to buy more guitars.
(and if you believe that...) |
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Location: So. Cal. | How about this way?
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Location: south east Michigan | Gotta hand it to ya.
All you would have to do is hang a sign and zap... your a retail store. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
All you would have to do is hang a sign and zap... your a retail store. I couldn't afford the pay cut.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I use string swings, except for 3 Hercules that I needed to hang 3 guitars in a small space. They all get the same humidity and are out of the way, but ready to play.
After helping damon load and unload his 16 guitars this weekend and onto stands, I've had enough of opening cases for awhile. It's nice to have them ready and wall hangers are safer than stands. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Bandroom? Did somebody say they wanted to build a bandroom and need advice? As bandrooms go, mine is somewhat over the top. I have tried a lot of different hangers, fabricated some for ceiling mounts, angled mounts for the sloping wall above the fireplace, threaded mounts on a round rack support, and at least one swing arm. Walls are pretty straight forward and I prefer a steel-backed mount that maximizes the size of the contact surface between the mount and the wall, preferably with screws that line up vertically. Once you run out of room for straight forward applications, a little creativity is required. |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Nice to use a hanger. Whenever you walk past you'll say " I think I'll play a song". A stand on the floor not an option with kids under 3yrs. Where I live, humidity is always high! |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | When you only own two or three guitars, it's easy enough to open a case and play them. Although I admit I would like to hang my for easy access and the great artwork they are. I may, but humidity (actually lack of) is an issue here in Eastern Oregon, so it's just easier to humidify them in the case. |
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Guitar stands and hangars for the music room?