Midbowl 1581
Steve
Posted 2007-11-18 3:31 PM (#310801)
Subject: Midbowl 1581


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For some reason this strikes me as one of the more unique Adamas models. If I had the bucks I would bid this one through the roof...
Ebay# 300171684274
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-18 4:09 PM (#310802 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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Personally, I couldn't disagree more.

Much rather have a deep bowl regardless of uniqueness.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-18 4:23 PM (#310803 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Not my cup of tea by a long shot.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-18 4:31 PM (#310804 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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And it ain't worth that much, to me at least.
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-18 4:32 PM (#310805 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Well, you guys have no doubt had a chance to hear the differences. I play a deepbowl cutaway Legend, with heavy D'Adds tuned to C standard. I'm thinking this model would be an overall improvement by a long shot. Just as full acoustically with an Adamas-top twist to it all...
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-18 4:36 PM (#310806 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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I don't know, $1500 for an Adamas isn't so unreasonable, I expect it may end up going closer to $1700...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-18 5:06 PM (#310807 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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Oh, that is probably a nice price. But when I get my Adamas, it will be deep-bowl, no cut-away. And Blue.

When you ain't buying you can be real picky!
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-18 7:55 PM (#310808 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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Steve, I like your valuation of Adamas guitars.

I have a real nice 1681 in mint condition that I will let go for considerably less than the $1700 you are talking about!
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brainslag
Posted 2007-11-19 9:42 AM (#310809 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh, that is probably a nice price. But when I get my Adamas, it will be deep-bowl, no cut-away. And Blue.
My thoughts exactly!

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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-11-19 11:00 AM (#310810 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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Cool guitar, way big bucks.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-19 2:58 PM (#310811 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Brian, you've got a U681-12? NICE !!!
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brainslag
Posted 2007-11-19 3:14 PM (#310812 - in reply to #310801)
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I LOVE it!!! (and it's the reason I went into hock on the blue one...)
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-19 4:29 PM (#310813 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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18 hours left, and the 1581-midbowl is pushing $1700 already...wonder if it's a club member?..
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-19 11:03 PM (#310814 - in reply to #310801)
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Yeah, that's the one...

A blue one just like that one in Brainslag's post.

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Steve
Posted 2007-11-20 11:08 AM (#310815 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Won by a single bid, ended at $1725.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-11-20 12:40 PM (#310816 - in reply to #310801)
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It has the Earvana tuning system. ...or half of it anyway. The webpage says the strings are compensated for tone at the nut and the bridge, which makes sense up the fretboard. But that guitar has the stock Ovation bridge on it, which means only the open strings have the benefit of the new nut... which I can't imagine helps too much.
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-20 1:41 PM (#310817 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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I was wondering about how adjustable that nut was. The photos in the ad weren't clear. It doesn't look the same as an adjustable saddle system.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-21 12:13 AM (#310818 - in reply to #310801)
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I wonder how legit this was since the listing appears to have been pulled and no longer available.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-21 12:38 AM (#310819 - in reply to #310801)
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Wow! That sucker Totally disappeared! From my My eBay watch-list, and didn't go to "ended" listing either.
Even when someone pulls a listing, you will usually get one of them "item withdrawn by seller due to mistakes in listing" notices.
Aw, I wasn't gonna buy it anyway.
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-21 8:45 AM (#310820 - in reply to #310801)
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We could ask ebay about it and see if we get a straight answer. :rolleyes: right...
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-21 9:12 AM (#310821 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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My guess is that the owner and top bidder were the same. Just a guess but shilling is a quick way for ebay to jerk an auction once it is about over or ends.
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-21 4:37 PM (#310822 - in reply to #310801)
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In that event I guess ebay would notify the legitimate bidders but not the entire ebay community... I don't remember the auction well enough to know if the top bidder had posted that many times before, but maybe. Otherwise he would've had an accomplice...No doubt worse things have happened on ebay...
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brainslag
Posted 2007-11-27 12:09 PM (#310823 - in reply to #310801)
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It's up again. No reserve this time.

1581 re-list.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-27 12:29 PM (#310824 - in reply to #310801)
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the bad thing about the new bid system is that it is much harder to tell if the seller is also bidding to jack up the price.

I think this is what happened the last time which is why the listing mysteriously disappeared (no one outbid the seller).

If that scared him off a bit, I bet it goes for much less this time....truer price probably being in the $1000-1100 range.

just my 2 cents.............
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-27 2:15 PM (#310825 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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I could ask him what happened at the last auction... He's been a member since March 2000, averages 3 or 4 transactions a year, has a 100% rating as a buyer, but hasn't bought anyting since Sept 2005. Apparently he hasn't ever sold anything...
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-27 3:57 PM (#310826 - in reply to #310801)
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Interesting....it could be case of ebay ID theft.

There have been plenty of instances where someone snagged an inactive ebay account in order to launch a scam.

Funny, I am a big ebayer, yet I am so suspicious of everything it is a wonder I ever buy anything!
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Hankster
Posted 2007-11-28 6:28 PM (#310827 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Just had to place a bid though... it has to go a lot higher I would think...
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-29 9:24 AM (#310828 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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Steph,
I know I had my ebay password stolen once. Don't know how they did it. Ebay caught it and temporarily closed my account...
I wonder if there may be few corrupt individuals in the ebay system itself...
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-29 12:05 PM (#310829 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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I heard from the seller. He said a bidder waited until the last second to bid on the guitar and won, then told ebay someone else had hacked into his account...
Either way it could be a 'likely story'...but it does fit the profile of a 'schill' game, doesn't it...
I would suggest any OFC bidders think twice.
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Steve
Posted 2007-12-02 6:39 PM (#310830 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581


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As of this post, there's 3 hours left, the bid's at $1675...there's 2 bidders keeping it going...wonder if it's for real this time?..
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-02 8:43 PM (#310831 - in reply to #310801)
Subject: Re: Midbowl 1581



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I still prefer the deep bowl and would not personally pay that much for a used mid-bowl.

If I was going that route I would contact Al and have him clone me Jeff W's.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-02 10:56 PM (#310832 - in reply to #310801)
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I hope whoever won it likes it.

Dave
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-03 1:26 AM (#310833 - in reply to #310801)
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and I hope that this means the value of Adamas/Ovation guitars are starting to climb back up!

It will be interesting if it get relisted again or pops up for sale from the new owner within a few months.
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