Adamas 08 collector's
alpep
Posted 2007-12-16 11:05 AM (#309726)
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I was told it was ok to talk about the 08 collector's series guitar today. I will give you all the information I have which really is not too definitive.
Limited to 100 numbered 1/1 - 1/100
40 are going to the export market leaving 60 for the usa
$5K list
$3999. MAP
Black
slotted headstock
contour bowl
single epaulet
textured top
cutaway
bowl ring.

These are all the details I currently have. If you are interested contact me for pre orders. reserve yours now I was promised low serial numbers, but nothing is ever set in stone as I have come to realize over and over again.




e me at alpep@lostartvintage.com
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 11:44 AM (#309727 - in reply to #309726)
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Al, I am assuming that since the title says Adamas, that this will be the first ever collectors.

Sounds good...put me down!
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-16 12:19 PM (#309728 - in reply to #309726)
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Reservation placed. Given everything that's going on this'll either be 1) the first of a new era, or 2) last of the mohecians. Either way it'll be a very special instrument. Single sided epaulet models just HONK, and coupled with a slotted headstock and contour bowl this could very well be the best of the best. Nice work bringing this foreward as a little "Xmas whistle wetter", Al. THANKS!

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-16 12:36 PM (#309729 - in reply to #309726)
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Mohicans :rolleyes:
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-12-16 12:57 PM (#309730 - in reply to #309726)
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Very nice.
It's like they almost read my mind.
And it's easy to see that they do read this board.
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-16 1:04 PM (#309731 - in reply to #309726)
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yes this would be the first Adamas collectors.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-16 1:10 PM (#309732 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Mohicans
No Cliff, THOSE would be indians. MOHECIANS is the code name for a long history of annual collectors guitars.

Dave
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-16 1:13 PM (#309733 - in reply to #309726)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 1:45 PM (#309734 - in reply to #309726)
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Well, I just thought you'd like to see what Leslie (Vision) and I were able to get for the holidays: hers (006 of 100) was delivered two days ago and mine (007 of 100) will be here on Tuesday:

Here's Mine: MusicMikes 08 Collector

Here's Leslie's: Visions\'s 08 Colletor

I'll do a full write up and pic's next Tuesday but I can say these are really sweet! Lite weight and great sound!

This is only part of my Holiday news: more to come!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-16 2:11 PM (#309735 - in reply to #309726)
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Whooo boy, here we go....
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 2:16 PM (#309736 - in reply to #309726)
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WHOOOOOOO....is that the ones Al just posted about?

Man...those look FABULOUS! I am glad I jumped in and ordered one. They gotta go fast looking like that.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-16 2:18 PM (#309737 - in reply to #309726)
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Mike, now I see why you are selling a few off. Good for me tho....
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vision
Posted 2007-12-16 2:23 PM (#309738 - in reply to #309726)
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Thanks Mike for putting my pictures up that I sent you - but you could always take better pictures than me so I am looking forward to seeing yours next Tuesday. Mike's pictures will show you how amazing she looks and the sound is a dream. Order up boys. :)

This guitar is incredible!!!!! Merry Christmas to me!!!! and Mike!!!!!!!!
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2007-12-16 2:24 PM (#309739 - in reply to #309726)
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Great, and thanks for the early pics. Is it also available with the 1 7/8" neck? That would be cool!

Karl
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 2:25 PM (#309740 - in reply to #309726)
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Right time and right place: I'd call Al asap! Al, I was waiting to share this and looks like the timing is just right! I wanted a match for the 1688 (and decided to not go with a 1687...) and whoa....is this the cats meow or not?
Let me say again: CALL AL! CALL AL! CALL AL!!!

:D ;) :rolleyes:
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 2:33 PM (#309741 - in reply to #309726)
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!!!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 2:39 PM (#309742 - in reply to #309726)
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BTW: My Amelia Guitars: '08 Collector and '88 1688-5; ;)
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 2:39 PM (#309743 - in reply to #309726)
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Karl, I wondered the same thing.

I would definitely be up for a wide neck if available but WOW...what a beauty. The guys at the mothership really outdid themselves this time.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 2:41 PM (#309744 - in reply to #309726)
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Mike and Leslie....simply STUNNING.

Thanks for sharing and I earerly await your comprehensive reviews!

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT YEAR FOR THE COLLECTORS SERIES TO HAVE BOTH A 6 & 12 STRING VERSION!!!!!
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 2:42 PM (#309745 - in reply to #309726)
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Al, you might as well start checking on a 12 string custom version.
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Tom_CA
Posted 2007-12-16 2:50 PM (#309746 - in reply to #309726)
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Congratulations Mike and Vision!!!

Tom
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 2:52 PM (#309747 - in reply to #309726)
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Well, There is something on the wind but I can't say what cuz I don't know yet! If its a 12 then I am in big trouble...I made a promise to SWMBO and to break it means a lonely winter: and its snowing right now!!!
My other "BIB" news is coming next Tuesday or Wednesday! OBoy OBoy OBoy!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-16 2:56 PM (#309748 - in reply to #309726)
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Beautiful guitar. If I hadn't spent the money on the OFC'er, I'd be buying this.

Mike, how did you get one before Al even announced it?

I find it interesting that 1.) Ovation is bringing back the old style Adamas, 2.) that they are charging real money for them, and 3.) they are only building 100 of these collectors (vs. about 700-1000 for other years). This is going to be a REAL collectors edition.....
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-12-16 2:58 PM (#309749 - in reply to #309726)
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Congratulation to the lucky owners!!! ;)

It's a very nice model and I really like the black and gold top binding.

J :)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 3:08 PM (#309750 - in reply to #309726)
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Mike, how did you get one before Al even announced it?
1. Right Living...
or
2. Won Lottery...
or
3. Angels watching over me...

Answer: #3 (Hint-Always Choose 3.)
Seriously!

This had to be meant to be as the guitar fund was depleated on Wednesday when I heard about it and I sold three guitars in 24 hours to be able to get it! I love it when a plan comes together!

:rolleyes:
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dvd
Posted 2007-12-16 3:27 PM (#309751 - in reply to #309726)
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Beautiful guitars! Interesting, no white labels visible through the soundholes in any of the pics..
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-16 3:41 PM (#309752 - in reply to #309726)
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Man, those are swwwweeeeeettttt!!

What else can ya say, but Congratulations to you both.
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vision
Posted 2007-12-16 3:54 PM (#309753 - in reply to #309726)
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DVD - the label is dead center on the inside top of the guitar - not on the side - very different looking label - if I can, I will try and get a pic of it but it will be hard with my great photo skills. :)
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dvd
Posted 2007-12-16 3:57 PM (#309754 - in reply to #309726)
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cool, sounds like they finally took Tupperware's advice!

BTW, Al, "mailbox is full: retry timeout exceeded"
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-16 3:59 PM (#309755 - in reply to #309726)
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Music, will yours be known as the "Bond" Adamas Collector's? :D ;) :eek:

If so, what will vision call hers?
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vision
Posted 2007-12-16 4:06 PM (#309756 - in reply to #309726)
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Can't believe I could get it -

"007" Adamas :)


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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 4:23 PM (#309757 - in reply to #309726)
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Stephen: your PM box is full...delete something to receive message...
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-16 4:27 PM (#309758 - in reply to #309726)
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If they are the last of Mohicans you can 'em Uncas and Chingashagook. (sp)
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 4:47 PM (#309759 - in reply to #309726)
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Opppps...thanks Mike. Cleaned house a bit.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 4:56 PM (#309760 - in reply to #309726)
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Nice Pic Lesllie!

Actually not in the habit of naming my guitars: I'll have to see after I get it what I feel like but "007" is certainly an option.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-12-16 5:22 PM (#309761 - in reply to #309726)
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This is not directed at Mike or Leslie...directed at the factory.

This smells...no other way to say it. Not the first time. 12/31/04, first pics of the the 30th Anniv Custom Legend is on a dealer's eBay auction and he had it in stock. 47RI pictures of #3 - guitar in his showroom and on eBay.

Al now finally able to give us basic specs with no pics and one is confirmed delivered, another in a couple of days.

Either a company releases a guitar to sell to all of the dealers or it doesn't. Playing of favoritism is wrong. My relationship with an Ovation and Adamas dealer is through Al. He has provided superior product and support. The company's actions are in direct conflict with their need to support the individual dealer. The company should try and reinforce the relationship between the dealer and customer.

And, please don't excuse the company by blaming it on one of their rep's (as in the case of the Custom Legend and the 47RI).

Again, it smells.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-16 6:37 PM (#309762 - in reply to #309726)
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Tony, that's what I meant when I posted Whooo boy.. Thanks for putting into words for me.
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-16 7:21 PM (#309763 - in reply to #309726)
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Tony, I definately agree with you here.

Apparently, Leslie and Mike found a great opportunity to quickly purchase what is certainly a first (Adamas Collector) and they obviouusly moved quickly. Certainly no blame there.

For Ovation not to have given, maybe not their largest vendor, but certainly their biggest supporter, at least an equal (should have been 1st) chance to promote this SUUUUUUCKS!

Sorry, am I being direct enough?! :rolleyes:
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 7:29 PM (#309764 - in reply to #309726)
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Given the opportunity, most of us would have probably jumped on the chance to own the first of these available and I applaud Mike and Leslie for not hesitating to grab them.

The point though is relevant, that apparently these were shipping to high volume dealers before Al was even allowed to mention them to us.

That is wrong!
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-16 8:05 PM (#309765 - in reply to #309726)
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FWIW
reps had their meeting in bloomfield this weekend and this is where they were told about the guitar.

that is why I did not have all the specs or pics. Probably won't be available to me until tomorrow.

To find out that these guitars are already in the hands of consumers is a little unnerving to me. But as it was expressed to me i am not a "million dollar account". but if you can tell me the dealer I can find out what rep he has and request i get changed. Hell if I had the guitars early I would sell them as quickly as possible. BUT I am a man of my word and if I am told NOT to give details until a specific date you can be damn well sure I would not. guess I am just stupid that way (looks like I don't have what it takes to be a millio dollar account. Hell I even tell people not to buy certain guitars. can you care too much? I guess so)

no matter. These are really cool guitars. I hope to grab a pile of them obviously the promise of early s/n numbers is probably out the window.

anyone wanna buy a mexi strat??????


(just teasing)
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vision
Posted 2007-12-16 8:08 PM (#309766 - in reply to #309726)
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Well, I am actually sorry that Mike and I put our guitars on line so everyone could actually see what the guitar looked like since this seems to have caused some problems with a few in terms of fair distribution.

I am not making excuses here but there are probably only so many that have been made to this point - possibly a very low number - if the dealers that recieved the first few shipments do the largest volume of sales in the country, shouldn't they get first crack at the few that have been produced?

Mike and I did not do this to hurt Al or anyone else - we just wanted all of you to see what will soon be available to you and more than likely be sitting in your home within the month.

For the first time in my life, I had first grabs at something speical. If I ever get another opportunity to be the first at something special, I think I will just keep it to myself until everyone has the information and starts posting their pictures.

Al, I hope you sell 20 of them.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-16 8:40 PM (#309767 - in reply to #309726)
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Hey Al, what's the line on Mexican made Adamiis?

Don't sweat it, vision. Nobody here's mad at anybody.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 8:51 PM (#309768 - in reply to #309726)
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Well, I really don't know where to start or what to say. I do know that until last Wednesday afternoon, I had never heard of this guitar...I dare say that not a single person here, given the means to acquire, one, would not have jumped on the chance and if I were to sell mine right this minute, it would be gone by tomorrow...
I've been in the music business for over 33 years...I had my own MI store and several other guitar oriented ventures from 1983 to 1993 besides still playing music professionally...I learned how the game was played...and that does not directly or indirectly have anything to do with this transaction. Leslie and I had an opportunity because of a large purchase we had made previously from one of the largest dealers in the country. I have dealt with many dealers over my 33+ year association with Kaman Music. Most were very good to deal with. To be honest, all of us here for the most part like to get a deal or to be able to buy something at the best price available...Leslie and I were not able to turn down this offer...it was the proverbial "offer you can't refuse". There was nothing wrong or "smelly" about this dealer and I resent the remark! Just as I would vehemently oppose anyone who would say the same things of Al! Kaman is a business: they have dealers and obviously they have differing ways of getting product out: I think Al hit it on the head when his rep said he was not a million seller: Folks, like it or not, that’s the name of the game: to sell product! If you're very good at it and do well, the companies reward you in some way! It's called Capitalism and many of us wore the uniform and fought for the right to do so freely! Guitars are not different than any other lines of material goods! I was waiting until I had a chance to get my guitar in hand and then Leslie and I were going to post together to show our latest guitars to a forum that we expected surely would be excited to see and hear about them. I did not know that Al was going to post this thread or to what extent he may or may not have ordered or even had in stock. I truly hope many here will order them from Al...Obviously he can get them and will get them. After hearing Leslie's 08 Collector over the phone last night, let me tell you if they sound that good over a phone speaker, just think how good they'll sound in person or through a PA! I have always played Ovation (and now more recently Adamas) because I love the product! And I really like the company too. Are they perfect? Of course not! Do they "stink"? Of course not! They are a successful business that has excellent customer service and support and is an American tradition! Part of our American Heritage! And they have become a worldwide heritage as well. While we do not fully know what will happen after Jan. 1st, I think it is safe to say that since many of the 100 2008 Collector Guitars have yet to be built, that is a good indicator! If we would all support the dealers (and certainly Al's "Lost Art Vintage" is one) we can assure Fender that they have indeed purchased wisely and should leave it the "...." alone to run itself or at least continue the tradition! I love the older guitars; but this is my 2nd new one! I am looking forward to getting it here and playing the tar out of it! Leslie is equally excited about having hers. Al will sell many, I have no doubt! Can't we be happy for that? Can't we support the company in this time of anxiety? Can't we think the best and do the best for others? That’s what makes this season and these holidays so special! My wish for the holidays is to flush all the negativity! Life is too short!
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-16 9:04 PM (#309769 - in reply to #309726)
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Leslie, I would have done the same given the opportunity and money to afford one. They should prove to be quiet rare and sought after.

My reaction is towards Al not having the same chance to present this opportunity at the same time. He provides us with this board and many other opportunities. Being self employed myself I have felt the unfairness in certain business sitations and was simply reflecting my support for the small business person.

As I said in my previous post, there is certainly no blame on you or Mike's part. I hope that y'all enjoy the beautiful new A collector. I can't wait to see and play Mike's in March.

Jim
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-12-16 9:09 PM (#309770 - in reply to #309726)
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I will quote myself: "This is not directed at Mike or Leslie...directed at the factory.
This smells..."

I reiterate...it is the factory that again screwed up...it smells. And, at the factory, it is the MANAGEMENT, not the wonderful guys and gals that help us everyday.

I don't care what volume some dealers have...let them make some pre-orders before other dealers. Save the 1st 10 for pre-orders to your favorites.

DON'T SHIP guitars until it has been announced to all dealers.

Again, to Mike and Leslie, no one is addressing your purchase. In fact, we appreciate seeing the pictures. We want to share in your joy. Thanks and congratulations.

Guess I should go check to see if there is one on eBay.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 9:38 PM (#309771 - in reply to #309726)
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Ditto guys. I mentioned that given the opportunity, almost every one of us in the market would have jumped on the deal, posted photos, and danced in glee.

Don't think we are mad at you, just sometimes we wonder aloud about how things work in the real world versus the perfect world.

I am looking forward to the reviews that I know you will be sharing in the upcoming week.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 9:55 PM (#309772 - in reply to #309726)
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Tony, maybe Fender will do thigs differently...I dunno...

Paul: I was being silly with my reply to your question...I was in a good mood before I found out that Dan Fogleberg died!
When "007" gets here, thats the first songs I'll play!

BTW, keep me in your thoughts folks: I go Wednesday morning to get the treatments for the neck: and Violetta has to have an MRI tomorrow for problems stemming from her wreck! Arn't we a pair!

Have a good week everyone!
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-16 10:35 PM (#309773 - in reply to #309726)
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It's business, and business is never fair. My company has 100 customers and 5 of them account for 90% of our revenue. So guess what? Those 5 companies always get first delivery. Always get the best price. And always have the inside track on new stuff before the rest of our customers every know about it. It sucks for the smaller guys and I feel bad for Al when he's not allowed to compete on a level playing field. But I'm not going to blame Kaman for doing the same thing that every other company probably has been doing for years. I'll be happy to wait in line and get my '08 Collector through Al. Although I've got to say I'm not crazy about the looks. I like black adamas guitars, and I like the sonics of a single epi cutaway. But that freaking snot blob is just too ugly for words. It'll probably be a short adoption. Dave
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-16 10:37 PM (#309774 - in reply to #309726)
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The snot blots don't bother me too much.

I never see them when I am playing :cool:

but not having them on the twin 2080Ds is kinda nice!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-16 10:41 PM (#309775 - in reply to #309726)
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Kleenex anyone?

:D ;)
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Posted 2007-12-16 10:54 PM (#309776 - in reply to #309726)
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WOW
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-16 11:17 PM (#309777 - in reply to #309726)
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i just want to make this perfectly clear.
this is not about me only. there are tons of dealers that did not get a heads up and probably won't. I am sure there are tons that don't care either. I just happen to be one that does care.

Ultimately it is not about where you buy an Adamas or Ovation, it's about owning the guitars.
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Posted 2007-12-16 11:50 PM (#309778 - in reply to #309726)
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Holy cow!!! That's my kind of collector's series!

I wonder if this is something they've had in the works for a while...I had kind of figured that with the way they muted down the 07 Collectors they must have something incredible going for 08.

That combo of contour bowl and bass-side epis has got to be killer.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2007-12-17 7:30 AM (#309779 - in reply to #309726)
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Just thinking about that bowl. Is it the same injection-molded bowl that the Ovations have? There doesn't seem to be agreement as to which kind of bowl is "better", but clearly there is more work(cost) involved in the hand-laid bowls than the other ones. This would be reflected in price. If the molded bowl costs,say, $50...far less than wood back&sides w/bracing...shouldn't that amount to a lower priced guitar than a hand-laid bowl?
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-17 7:59 AM (#309780 - in reply to #309726)
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Snot-blobs. Is that like worm smear?
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-17 8:26 AM (#309781 - in reply to #309726)
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Adamas 2008 collestors 2008-5
6 string acoustic electric
Satin Black
Graphite
Composite Ring Decorated in gold leaf
Fiberglass Cloth Deep Contour
13-Piece Exotic harwood -Bass side only epaulet
2- piece walnut / slotted peghead 14-fret to the body.
2-way trussrod
Neck Natural satin
fingerboard Walnut
Inlay Gold leaf with 12th fret Collector inlay
Bridge Carved walnut
Machines gold shallers
Vip-5
Pick up Ovation high output

Retail: $5000.00
Mapp $3,999.00
Case 9158-0

Production 100 pieces.


finally got the word on the specs
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 8:29 AM (#309782 - in reply to #309726)
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My conspiracy theory is that they probably over ordered the 1581 reissue tops, and decided to use them up by making this collectors guitar. I could be wrong, but somehow that seems logical.

Nobody has comfirmed the nutwidth. That would be real shame to maker it junior sized.

Dave
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-17 9:33 AM (#309783 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
Snot-blobs. Is that like worm smear?
or snail trail...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-17 9:35 AM (#309784 - in reply to #309726)
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Al, thanks for the spec's: I did not have them: nice to know!

I added to the pisca album of pic's on the 007...some nice shots...

Hope everyone has a great week!

BTW: Dave: thanks for the snot blob comment: you guys crack me up! Check pic's of mine: not as shiny I think...we'll see!
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 9:50 AM (#309785 - in reply to #309726)
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Al,

Sorry to bust your chops, but what about nutwidth. That's probably one of the most significant considerations to a lot of buyers.

Vision, can you measure yours? Please god let it be standard and not junior size.

Thanks, Dave
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-17 10:07 AM (#309786 - in reply to #309726)
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dave
just got an e mail from my rep that says he does not have the specs yet....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-17 10:11 AM (#309787 - in reply to #309726)
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To Dave, 1 3/4" or above is standard, 1 11/16" is junior sized.

This from a guy who stands barely 5'2"......
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-17 10:33 AM (#309788 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
My conspiracy theory is that they probably over ordered the 1581 reissue tops, and decided to use them up by making this collectors guitar.

Dave
Makes sense and the 1581 re-issue was great but with the contour bowl it will really be special!
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-12-17 10:36 AM (#309789 - in reply to #309726)
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It makes even more sense of the rumor that Fender won't change the management at Ovation.
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vision
Posted 2007-12-17 10:41 AM (#309790 - in reply to #309726)
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Tup - 1 3/4" by my measurements
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 10:51 AM (#309791 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
To Dave, 1 3/4" or above is standard, 1 11/16" is junior sized.
1-11/16 = junior
1-3/4 = standard
1-7/8 = wideneck

The question of neckwidths came up on another forum and the product manager replied "Of COURSE it's 1-3/4, we ARE men aren't we?"

actually, the neck profile is almost more important to me than the width (within reason) but adamas seems ot be pretty consistent with the soft C, which is finew with me.

Dave
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 10:52 AM (#309792 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by vision:
Tup - 1 3/4" by my measurements
AWESOME !!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-17 11:11 AM (#309793 - in reply to #309726)
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I never liked the fit of the contour bowl, but if I gain any more weight, I may tell SWMBO I need one of these.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-17 11:38 AM (#309794 - in reply to #309726)
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I was not enamored with the feel when I had an '05 collectors but since I got the twins and have actually strapped on and stood up, it feels very good (shut-up..and you guys know who I am talkin to!)

Even when I now play sitting down the contour bowl feels very comfortable to me....course that might also be due to the fact I am spending more time playing on the traditional wood boxes.

I like the contour bowl and now tend to agree with that wise old sage Tupperware who said that the contour bowl is the wave of the future!
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-17 11:44 AM (#309795 - in reply to #309726)
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1 3/4"

from the source
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-17 12:11 PM (#309796 - in reply to #309726)
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Thanks, T. The visuals just won't stop.

And I'm NOT enjoyin' 'em...
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fugot
Posted 2007-12-17 12:33 PM (#309797 - in reply to #309726)
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interesting....i yell and yell about producing to many collectors series in a year, and they listen!!!! and make a super limited adamas when I have no cash...sheesh

I bet all 100 could be sold overseas in about a week.

Dave, let me know when you want to sell yours;)...
maybe I will have some dinero by then...

al, you're still the worst salesmen ever, don't worry...Now about the pizza charges on my credit card :eek: :D :p
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povation
Posted 2007-12-17 1:02 PM (#309798 - in reply to #309726)
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Congratulations Mike and Leslie.
povation
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-12-17 1:25 PM (#309799 - in reply to #309726)
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Dave, since you're pre-ordering, why don't you go ahead and get the neck glossed up front? I bet you already thought of that.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 1:40 PM (#309800 - in reply to #309726)
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The walnut necks are OK they way they are.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-17 4:06 PM (#309801 - in reply to #309726)
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The lack of cash wasn't ever a big problem as long as I had all that home equity and bankers willing to loan against it. That ended pretty fast, didn't it?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-17 5:03 PM (#309802 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Al, I am assuming that since the title says Adamas, that this will be the first ever collectors. Sounds good...put me down!
Don't you just love GAS? Those twin baritones were satisfying for, what, a week?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-17 5:15 PM (#309803 - in reply to #309726)
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A week? Hell, I committed to take an 08C yesterday and today I got delivery of another guitar (Tak760SC). I was also shipping 3 out, so at least in the gatekeepers eyes it looked sorta good. Dave

Freaking 2-day FedEdx prices are up to $65 !!!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-17 5:36 PM (#309804 - in reply to #309726)
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I'm running my own custom guitar ordering scheme as well. My last eight guitar purchases have all been either custom one-offs or very limited editions. Fortunately, the amps have all been production models!
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-17 6:08 PM (#309805 - in reply to #309726)
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Still very satisfying!

but a Limited Edition of 100 is still a Limited Edition and I expect this one to be just like the 1581 (which was extremely difficult to sell) except EVEN BETTER!

Brad....You know you want one.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-17 6:08 PM (#309806 - in reply to #309726)
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Originally posted by fugot:
interesting....they...make a super limited adamas when I have no cash...sheesh...maybe I will have some dinero by then...
I guarantee you will.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-17 6:09 PM (#309807 - in reply to #309726)
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Dave, I'll assume a review will be posted on the Tak Forum.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-17 6:13 PM (#309808 - in reply to #309726)
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Stephen, actually, I'm standing back in the spectator crowd on this one. I already have a 1581 which looks pretty similar. Besides, I'm hanging out with the Hamer guys right now.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-17 6:30 PM (#309809 - in reply to #309726)
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I was gonna post my opinion of it, but I don't want to spoil your party.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-17 7:37 PM (#309810 - in reply to #309726)
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No problem Wabbit....you can email your opinion to me and spoil me privately!
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-12-18 12:42 AM (#309811 - in reply to #309726)
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If it's half as good as the 1581, it'll be incredible.

The crazy thing is, I was spec'ing out my "dream" Adamas a while back, and except for the color (black was my second choice) this is EXACTLY what I picked out. Satin neck (sorry Dave), slothead, 1 3/4", bass-side epi's...gotta be killer.

Now I just have to decide if I want to part with 3 to pick up 1. :confused:
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dobro
Posted 2007-12-18 8:36 AM (#309812 - in reply to #309726)
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RE: Prof BB & edensharvest comments. I, too (as a new owner of a 1581-5) would love to hear a comparison between the 1581 and the 2008 collector's. They appear to be very similar minus the obvious (amazing) cosmetic features of the 2008.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-18 9:08 AM (#309813 - in reply to #309726)
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Now I just have to decide if I want to part with 3 to pick up 1.
Why not, it worked for me! BTW, its out for delivery...so later today!

:D
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-18 10:14 AM (#309814 - in reply to #309726)
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Greg, it would make an awesome sibling for the 1581. Knowing about it at the beginning of the run gives you time to commit and then figure out how to come up with the funds.

I think today I may shoot myself in the foot and commit to a sunburst cutaway something something that along with this one and the Tak 45th will effectively remove me from the market for all of '08 (as I tap dance out of the picture).
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-12-18 12:56 PM (#309815 - in reply to #309726)
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Beautiful! Now that's a collector's worth having!

It's amazing how many great limited edition O's and A's have come out in the last year or two.

Of course, Al has had his hand in a bunch of them!
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-18 1:19 PM (#309816 - in reply to #309726)
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. . . and they have the pizza smears t'prove it . . .
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-18 3:32 PM (#309817 - in reply to #309726)
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New Arrival: check the Post in General Posting!

:D
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-19 12:43 AM (#309818 - in reply to #309726)
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just got back from the factory.
I played the prototype 000/100

great sounding and playing instrument.

but what I realized as I was driving home was that this was one of the options I wanted for the OFC guitar. to make a "modern" version of the classic slothead.

or maybe I just dreamed that....

again it is a great guitar.
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-19 1:27 AM (#309819 - in reply to #309726)
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It was the pizza, Al . . .
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-12-19 1:30 AM (#309820 - in reply to #309726)
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Glad the OFC (and the 47RI) weren't "modernized".

The OFC and the 47RI are unique instruments. They can never replace one of the original slotheads but they are representative of the best of the technology and skills used in the original. The original slothead, the OFC, and the 47RI are guitars that we probably won't see again.

The original 2-knob pre-amp, the hand laid bowl, the detailed carving, etc.

What we saw in the original slotheads is timeless. I believe they got it right the first time.

The OFC and 47RI have allowed many others to share in the experience with the original slothead owners (past and present).
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-19 6:50 AM (#309821 - in reply to #309726)
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Al, I remember your original postings on the OFC guitar. You called it a "Hot Rod slothead". Glad it didn't happen that way.

Dave
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-19 9:16 AM (#309822 - in reply to #309726)
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My thinking was to make it the best guitar that it could be. Using all the cool elements of the old and new.

It was the right decision to make the OFC guitar what it is.

But the 08 collectors is a very cool guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-19 11:20 AM (#309823 - in reply to #309726)
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So Al, when can we expect emails with pricing details so we can pay for these puppies and then start bugging you about ship dates?

Can I buy "000" prototype?
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-19 11:42 AM (#309824 - in reply to #309726)
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prototype is not for sale.
I tried.

I am waiting for a confirmation of when I will get my guitars and what s/n's.
when all that is firm I will send out some e mails.

I guess I am not that great of a businessman but I have issues with selling air. I would prefer to have the item in my hand or know the delivery schedule. To be honest, things have changed and I have been told one thing and another was done and told we are all turning left and then at the last minute told we were turning right that I just don't know what to say.

example. 12 and 14 fret koas. I was told delivery was 2 weeks away no more than 6 times. Finally I just gave up. I know there are people out there that will take your money and hold it FOREVER until they get a product or if they don't just say oops. I tend not to want to do that. that is why I will never become a "million dollar account".
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-19 12:02 PM (#309825 - in reply to #309726)
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Something to be said for paying your money and getting your product.

I like the concept but it will never catch on....makes to much sense ;)
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TexasDoc
Posted 2008-01-02 4:49 PM (#309826 - in reply to #309726)
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this looks A LOT like what I ordered. I instead got the cootie. Looks like a great guitar.
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-02 5:25 PM (#309827 - in reply to #309726)
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ttenn, my guess is that they built one for you and said "Naw, this is too good."

Dave
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-24 8:41 AM (#309828 - in reply to #309726)
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if anyone is interested I have a couple avaiable
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