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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Just an observation on my part but it seems to me that over the last month or so that the "For Sale" section has become cluttered with people posting links to every "Ovation/Adamas" guitar they can find throughout the US.
Personally, I would prefer the "For Sale" section to be an area for MEMBERS to post PERSONAL GUITARS/EQUIPMENT for sale.....not a posting pot for every Craig List location or tiny music store in the country.
Am I the only one who thinks this way?
If I am, I will keep my mouth shut but I am curious how other members feel (and no....I will not do a poll!) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Don't keep your mouth (keyboard) shut but I don't mind the spurious and random offerings. I can look or not look.
I like to peruse and don't feel I need to read everything. Keywords like "Free" and "Leather" usually draw me in! |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I agree T. Everyone here is capable of doing their own Ebay/CL searches.
If the guitar in question has some kind of historical or other out-of-the-ordinary appeal, then I think it's ok. |
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| Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes Yes!
I found it insulting when I offered my guitars for sale in here....to find the next morning a whole list of ebay auctions posted one after the other. Nothing but idol chatter about the color or some other worthless information....totally unworthy of discussion on this board. all the while sending my ad along with about five or six other members ad's and their great ovation guitars, to the bottom.
I may be sensitive because I was selling some great guitars that took me many years to aquire but you'd fell the same if you were in my shoes.
In fact go back and check.... there are some great guitars for sale in here..... I know Mine are not cheap and not for everyone but I am not the only guy selling. There are some good deals, dredge them up and discuss them instead of giving ebay free advertising!
If your running an ebay add yourself or you found a guitar at some local shop, by all means, post it!
Peace Love Dope!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I AGREE. This has been driving me crazy but I didn't want to be the one leaving the Oh Henry in the swimming pool.
I'm perfectly capable of doing my own ebay and CL searches, thank you very much. Keep the For Sale section for members actually selling something of their own!
Exceptions should be when you spot something truely unique and outstanding that may otherwise go un-noticed. Such as the original slothead that is on craigslist right now.
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Location: ms | "Peace Love Dope and Hippie Music" |
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Location: NJ | I agree w/Dave (hate when that happens) . . .
It's especially a pain when three/four people post the SAME fleaBay ad with "don't know if anybody saw this one . . . " |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Wow, I agree with Dave too. Could this be the start of something new?? Actually, Dave has steered me the right way on a few guitars, so I will have to say .....I....uh....re..spe..ct...his opinion. There, it's out now. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Agree. |
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Location: CT | Ditto. I'm on ebay a lot. Then I chime in here and get to see all the cookie cutter guitars I just looked at. Let us know when YOUR gitar is on ebay. |
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Location: NJ | hey I agree and I even mentioned a couple of times to folks that we can do our own e bay searches.
if you see something cool or unusual ok post it. if there is a praticularly good deal on craigslist fine post it
otherwise. let it be. |
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Location: Battle Ground, WA. | I agree about the E-bagel searches, Although I have posted an ebagel find wanting opinions about value before purchasing. (Should that be under General Forum, or could we start a chat link for value opinions?) Regarding cl, I wouldn't mind if there were infrequent postings about a really 'great deal', we cannot search every CL list everywhere in america, and a great deal is great info.
I know....what constitutes a great deal????
May your days be filled with blue skies green lights and Pink Floyd....
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I've only ever posted ads because I was trying to be courteous and pass on something interesting that caught my eye. (Though admittedly "interesting" is a very relative term. As are "unique" and "inexpensive.") I actually tried to buy a CL guitar once that I had been tipped off to by another member's post. (Seller wouldn't ship though.) So I have since tried to return the favor, especially since I so rarely have the cash to pursue things myself. However, if it causes offense, consider it stopped...at least on my part. |
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Location: Scotland | I agree, unless it's rare or cool, or an oddball, don't bother. I especially hate the "look how much this joker is asking for his Ovation whatever model" Though those type of posts seem to have stopped lately.
That said, around 5 years ago I found my T-head because somebody (I'm pretty sure it was Moody) posted a link to an ebay listing with a $350 Bin. I'd have missed that one otherwise. The time-zone difference helps sometimes! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Patch, I wasn't referring to any one post or any one member in particular.
I think Randy stated it best after my initial post.
This section should be for members to offer up their guitar/equipment to other members.
Sometimes a member might not log but once a week and in the past (when this section generated 3-4 topics a week) it allowed them to maybe find a gem.
Now it has gotten to the point where there are 5-6 posts a day and a members post is quickly buried 20-30 posts deep and has little chance of being found.
I just think people no longer "look" at the intent of the "For Sale" section which is clearly posted at the top of this particular forum.
Maybe, as someone else suggested, general postings about guitars should be in the "general forum" and not in the "For Sale" section. |
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| I think we all find interesting ovations to share but if we all just take into consideration those members who are trying to let the group know of a personal guitar they have for sale, and only post something of extreme interest. There is a baritone in here now that is of this "interesting" category.
It is the post after post about ebay auctions that can become an irritation to those of us using this forum to offer pieces from our own collections. And not just the post, We don't need endless replys about how pretty it is or how ugly it is.... this just adds to the injury..
No offence to anyone who has an ebay auction posted now, this goes way back and is just a general observation that has apparently finally come to a head.
Anyone who happens to be looking for an ovation, right now, please go through the older sale postings there are a bunch just this past month that were pretty impressive.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | I'm not sure mine are purely "for sale". More like "compensated adoption". |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I only meant to make two points: I think those of us who posted links about off-forum instruments were sincerely trying to be of service and inform others. Also, anytime caveats are permitted, there will be disagreement regarding definitions. After all, words like unique, rare, cheap, interesting, etc. have different meanings to different folks.
But all of that aside, my final statement was the most important. I (and apparently others) have inadvertently / unintentionally given offense. For that I apologize. Only a crass, self-absorbed, blow-hard of a know-it-all would continue to do so once they were informed. I give seminars all the time in which I encourage people to state their concerns. I tell them that for every person willing to speak up, there are likely dozens who silently cheer them for doing so. I also tell them that if they are ever on the receiving end of such concerns, to take it as it is intended: a no-harm-no-foul opportunity to see another's point of view and cease causing concern. And despite rumors to the contrary (mostly spread by certain male siblings), I actually do try to practice what I preach. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I apologize to all for my insensitivity. I know I'm not the only one to throw up Ebay guitars here(although I have probably been notorious about doing so), but I never carefully read the opening statement on the for sale board. I have to say though, that I have got the heads-up here about some nice guitars that Ebay didn't message me on. The baritone that was previously mentioned is a prime example. If I would have seen that guitar and the buy-it-now option before someone bid on it, I would have snagged it. I guess that would be considered one of the "guitars of interest" that some of you spoke of. I actually thought I was being helpful, but I will be just as glad to stop. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and once again ... I apologize. |
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Location: big island | heartfelt ditto |
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Location: SoCal | When I see something interesting on the 'bay, I do post a link. Happens maybe once every couple of weeks. And I label the thread for what it is.
As we all know, my taste in guitars (not to be confused with my ability to play said guitars, so shut up Clifford!) is second to none (or maybe four), so I'll be damned if I feel guilty about it.
It also doesn't hurt that I went out to lunch and had a few beers....... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | As much as I would probably agree, I don't think anyone should be feeling bad or apologizing. You did what you did as a well intentioned gesture. That it somehow got a little over-done happens from time to time. No big deal. It's noted. Now we'll all get it back in line and move on.
Next! |
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Location: SoCal | Weas, with a few beers in me (like, now), I don't apologize for anything.... |
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Location: big island | hopefully, moody, you won't DO anything while the few beers are in you that you will have to apologize for later... |
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Location: SoCal | Naw, Randy, they're pretty well worn off (damn).... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | ...Longer commute than usual? :eek: |
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Location: East Tennessee | I agree with the fact that we tend to fill this section with ebay listings. I don't check ebay daily,(GAS), so if on occasion there is a bargain on ebay, I don't mind finding out here.
However SWMBO isn't keen on the idea. :D |
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Location: Battle Ground, WA. | Well,
darn it all! Now I feel bad for not Apologizing about anything. For that, I am sorry.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | What Al said. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | How about a 'FOR SALE/TRADE' by members and a 'SIGHTINGS' for the eBay, CL, etc. discoveries?
I agree with most here in that all the past postings were for the membership's benefit. Also if I were to post a 'sale', I would be discouraged with being pushed to the bottom due to the 'sightings' contributions.
As others have expressed, there is no need for anyone to apologize for feeding us leads. Newbies, such as I, have and will continue to deepen our appreciation of the 'O' via the vast knowledge base and kindness of the 'O Pack'.
Just my humble .02 FRN... ;) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "Sightings"
That would provide a place for the more Off-track, off-color, off-your-meds posts.
It could work. |
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| Originally posted by MWoody:
"Sightings"
That would provide a place for the more Off-track, off-color, off-your-meds posts. I like it. Great idea.
I've been guilty of posting the occasional eBay or CL find that I thought might be of interest (purely subjective, of course), so my apologies to any member whose personal for sale post I might have buried.
At the same time, I like the fact that some folks scour sites that I normally don't (or don't know about) and have seen some interesting stuff. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by g8r:I've been guilty of posting the occasional eBay or CL find that I thought might be of interest (purely subjective, of course), so my apologies to any member whose personal for sale post I might have buried. [/QB] The 'door' is kinda left ajar with this statement at the FOR SALE heading:
This area is NOT intended as a "classifieds" section, but more like the bulletin board
Therefore I see no need in apologizing. We just need to 'fine tune' a bit. ;) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I am guilty of nothing as I have never done anything nor plan to do anything in the near future that does not involve beer in one format or another.
How about ONE thread for flee-bay, Craigslist, off-site, et al stuff? See a new one, stick it there and it's all in one neat pile!
Eg: Off Site For Sale |
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Location: Orlando, FL | I hope when somebody notices a great guitar with a low BIN they will still post it. Many great impulse buys have happened this way. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Agreed Stephen...nicely stated. |
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Location: Midland, MI | We recently had this same discussion on another board and the resolution was to create a second "Marketplace" section just for "check this out" posts. We called it "Bay Watch" (one member's suggestion which seemed to appeal to the mostly, uh, mature, male demographic for some reason or other).
Just sayin'. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So if we found a "Brass section" bargain with local pickup on Craigslist it could go under "Sax in the City"? |
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| Well a "Check this out" section might be a very good solution. Makes perfect sense.
Now.......who do we recruit as the sacrifice to bring this new found solution to Miles...."The Wizard Behind The Curtain" |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Northcountry:
Now.......who do we recruit as the sacrifice Anyone with less than 46 posts? ;) |
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| Here's one for the 'SIGHTINGS' section:
Anniversary Collectors Elite, Ebay# 160207591395, 8 days left on the auction. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Steve:
Here's one for the 'SIGHTINGS' section:
Anniversary Collectors Elite, Ebay# 160207591395, 8 days left on the auction. LINK ??? |
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Anniversary Collector\'s |
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