Ebay Adamas I 1687-9
Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-26 4:13 PM (#303471)
Subject: Ebay Adamas I 1687-9



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http://cgi.ebay.com/Adamas-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar_W0QQitemZ180246...

Is it another OFC member that's bidding this up against me or am I getting shilled?

I'm t***h
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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-26 4:23 PM (#303472 - in reply to #303471)
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i've been watching that one, tim. but watching and wishing is all. good luck!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-05-26 4:26 PM (#303473 - in reply to #303471)
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Perfect example of why I will only throw out an initial low bid (just to get registered in the auction) and then snipe at the last seconds.

Doesn't always work but at least I feel it keeps the shills away to a small degree.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-26 4:30 PM (#303474 - in reply to #303471)
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Unless and until someone here admits to bidding, there is (are) an Asian buyer(s) that has (have) been sweeping up the collectible Adamas offerings, both on eBarf and CL.

I've ran into this twice within the past 4-5 weeks on CL. One CL seller wrote that the buyer asked if there were any more for sell.

BTW, the buyer is paying asking price...
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stephent28
Posted 2008-05-26 7:35 PM (#303475 - in reply to #303471)
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Sounds like Spider from Tokyo.
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-05-26 9:17 PM (#303476 - in reply to #303471)
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If it is Spider rarely pays what they are worth. He asked about the three I have sold so far and left me alone each time I quoted him a "Fair" BIN price.
Not to belittle another member but Spider has beat me to three ebay adamas's in the past and I was kind of angry about the final price he got two of them at.... and has recently asked me to remind him what I was asking for the 1587-8 I still am thinking of letting go. He is mainly interested in the early "Blue" two knobers. And he is looking for sellers that he can contact early in an auction and who do not know the value of these guitars. Must be getting harder and harder to buy these cheap.
He must make a killing on these with the value of the dollar being what it is in the asian market. Perhaps he will be paying near the $2000 or more like the rest of us soon as well.
This is what they seem to sell for. As for the shill bidding?? I do not think this is Spider, I think he is a "snip" kinda guy like many of us are. THis was how I lost two of my Adamas's, I put in a low bid and waited..... no one else bid either, the seller was thinking after 6 days that his guitar was not worth what he thought it was and Apparently he recieved an offer from our friend, and gladly took it, then ended the auction. By the time I found a way to contact this guy the guitar was sold & shipped for $900. ! I bid a little more now than I did.
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povation
Posted 2008-05-27 2:25 AM (#303477 - in reply to #303471)
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Good luck with the sale!
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Rémy
Posted 2008-05-27 3:18 AM (#303478 - in reply to #303471)
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Is it a 1687-9 or a 1689-9 wide neck ? Seems to be an old 1978 model ? Beautiful Adamas !
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Rémy
Posted 2008-05-27 8:09 AM (#303479 - in reply to #303471)
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I emailed the seller : this Adamas is a 1687-9 #482-91.... 1978 early Adamas, probably signed "Charles H. Kaman" !!!
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-27 9:59 AM (#303480 - in reply to #303471)
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I don't see the seller offering to ship outside the US...
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Rémy
Posted 2008-05-27 10:40 AM (#303481 - in reply to #303471)
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I'm not bidding... Good Luck Tim !
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-27 12:24 PM (#303482 - in reply to #303471)
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If this was only a 1689, I'd be willing to push it :(
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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-27 1:21 PM (#303483 - in reply to #303471)
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more photos from the seller are on the way
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-27 5:23 PM (#303484 - in reply to #303471)
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Told me the same thing: four days ago...

Tim: call me!
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-28 3:51 PM (#303485 - in reply to #303471)
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Got two today from the seller:


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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-28 4:27 PM (#303486 - in reply to #303471)
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i like that color alot. think it would look better with some o' paul's walnut tuners though.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-28 4:54 PM (#303487 - in reply to #303471)
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I got the same two today as well...
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Rémy
Posted 2008-05-28 5:21 PM (#303488 - in reply to #303471)
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Seems to be a wide neck...? But specified not : 1687-9... really beautiful guitar and I agree : paul's walnut tuners should replace those ones...
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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-28 5:46 PM (#303489 - in reply to #303471)
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i think the vintage look is what is most appealing to me. and knowing how good it sounds without even having to play it...

getting to play it would be far more preferential tho! :(
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-28 11:42 PM (#303490 - in reply to #303471)
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Here are two more: Go for it folks...
482-91 1687-9


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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-05-29 12:03 AM (#303491 - in reply to #303471)
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Originally posted by Tim in Tidewater:
Got two today from the seller:


Really Obvious Snot-Blob on that one, huh? :eek:
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Rémy
Posted 2008-05-29 3:21 AM (#303492 - in reply to #303471)
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You're right Lanaki : those rare old ones 1978<#600 are the best sounding Adamas ever, after that in 1979 they introduced the suspended ring and then later around 1984 they modified the carbon textured top as it is today, I just forgot when they stopped the sandwich with piece of wood...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-30 9:26 PM (#303493 - in reply to #303471)
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Sold! $2050.00 A Steal...
Going to France...anybody we know?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-31 8:27 PM (#303494 - in reply to #303471)
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ADAMAS- Acoustic/ Electric Guitar

She's back ....
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Beal
Posted 2008-05-31 9:03 PM (#303495 - in reply to #303471)
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Suspended ring in 1979??
Modified the top in 1984?
Stopped the sandwiched piece of wood?

What are you talking about????
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stephent28
Posted 2008-05-31 9:11 PM (#303496 - in reply to #303471)
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No mention why it was re-listed but now with a BIN.

Tim, what are you waiting for?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-05-31 9:23 PM (#303497 - in reply to #303471)
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Re-listed and only US sale.

I'm working on something else with more strings and still waiting to see if the sale of my 47RI goes down. If it had only been a 1689...
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-06-01 2:46 PM (#303498 - in reply to #303471)
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BIN gone now, what was it?
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stephent28
Posted 2008-06-01 3:19 PM (#303499 - in reply to #303471)
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$2000
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Beal
Posted 2008-06-01 6:48 PM (#303500 - in reply to #303471)
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Remy, Not sure where you got your facts, maybe with the help of a little too much Remy?
1) the ring design changed around #70
2)the tops are all sandwiched, maybe in the last 10 years or so they've changed but I don't think so
3)What was down around 84?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-03 7:32 PM (#303501 - in reply to #303471)
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from $2,050 to $1,275...ouch
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BluesSailor
Posted 2008-06-03 7:32 PM (#303502 - in reply to #303471)
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Sold $1275.00
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-06-03 7:37 PM (#303503 - in reply to #303471)
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That's ebay for you. He needs to learn the ebay games. He relisted it way too soon after the original listing ended, and US only shipping takes out the Dadi freaks etc, who just can't find these guitars in Europe. His loss, if he sells at that price.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-03 7:45 PM (#303504 - in reply to #303471)
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Why he didn't relist with a reserve...I kept expecting to get a 2nd chance offer since I had bid $2025 on it the first time around (before I found out it wasn't a wideneck), oh well.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-06-03 10:18 PM (#303505 - in reply to #303471)
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So, who stole it? lol
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-06-03 10:28 PM (#303506 - in reply to #303471)
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I don't think this sold. Not for that price...No way.... I think this guy had someone bid it for him and it went off for that. If you want it contact him I'll bet he's sitting on it, and willing to take a fair offer.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-03 10:48 PM (#303507 - in reply to #303471)
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the guitar is shipping to me tomorrow. could not resist. i'll be posting from the family doghouse tonight.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-04 12:22 AM (#303508 - in reply to #303471)
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otto "stole" the red one last week. i only hope this one is in as fine condition. what really sucks is that the dollar is not worth much either, so all things considered, these really are a couple of steals.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-06-04 5:00 AM (#303509 - in reply to #303471)
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Congrats Randy! You make me proud!
(guitar thief) :p
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-04 6:52 AM (#303510 - in reply to #303471)
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Nice Randy, thought we had lost you over to the wood box side of the house...with the money you saved on this, you should be able to afford a plane ticket to Beggin's place!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-06-04 8:11 AM (#303511 - in reply to #303471)
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Randy, CONGRATULATIONS! I know it was you! Way to go! NOW, HOLD ON TO IT! lol! Great news, no worries about humidity damaging this one!
:D ;) :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-06-04 8:28 AM (#303512 - in reply to #303471)
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Nice! That is an investment as well as a fun buy.
Wow... sure wish I found one of mine for that! Congrats Man!
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-04 3:22 PM (#303513 - in reply to #303471)
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well...i've got the UPS tracking # and i'll be bitin' my nails till it gets here. i don't trust brown with guitars. the seller said shipping with UPS would be easier for him than USPS. he quoted me $100 for shipping but he ended up paying $205 to ship. must've used a packing service too :eek:

so after eBay fees, paypal fees and extra shipping costs, this poor seller really took a beating.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-04 5:39 PM (#303514 - in reply to #303471)
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so what would be the year of manufacture on this guitar?


edit: 1978
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-06-04 8:09 PM (#303515 - in reply to #303471)
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Randy, here is the other cool part of the label...

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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-06-04 8:21 PM (#303516 - in reply to #303471)
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Randy, at least it went to someone with some talent. You deserve this one. Enjoy!! (I'll still call you a guitar thief)
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-05 12:11 AM (#303517 - in reply to #303471)
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Glad it worked out for you Randy, make sure to throw us some pictures when it arrives. Now just don't go trading it off next week for a Taylor!

For what it's worth, I temporarily stopped my GAS pains tonight & Big Blue has a new friend coming to live with us soon :D
~Thanks again Mike!~
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Beggin
Posted 2008-06-05 12:22 AM (#303518 - in reply to #303471)
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My hero!!

Congrats and enjoy!!! (as if there is any doubt)
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-06-05 12:52 AM (#303519 - in reply to #303471)
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Congrats Randy!!!
You're a lucky guy... ;)

J :)
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-05 1:32 AM (#303520 - in reply to #303471)
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thank you, friends.

y'got a 1688 headed your way, tim?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-05 6:40 AM (#303521 - in reply to #303471)
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1188-7 ;)
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-05 1:27 PM (#303522 - in reply to #303471)
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oooooo, ahhhhhh! vintage mid 70's? ya' gonna leave it acoustic?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-05 3:01 PM (#303523 - in reply to #303471)
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According to the serial, it's an '83. But going by the catalogs and Ovation Decoder, the first year of production for the 1188 was not until '84. Guess this one sat on the shelf for awhile.

....oh yeah, she's definitely staying acoustic!!!
Adamas 1188-7 12 Strings ~ Acoustic Only
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-06-05 3:04 PM (#303524 - in reply to #303471)
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One of the nicest model ever made to my eyes !!!!
This model is so full of projection that you don't really needs to have a pre-amp...

J :)
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-06-05 3:13 PM (#303525 - in reply to #303471)
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Jerome,

I owe you a bunch of pictures after she gets here :)

Tim
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-06-05 3:37 PM (#303526 - in reply to #303471)
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Tim, I'll be very happy to show your pics on the site!!!

According that ADAMAS PRICE LIST, the 1188 model was available in 1978 in the very early days of production!!

J :)
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-05 3:46 PM (#303527 - in reply to #303471)
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here's the ovation timeline showing the 1188 started about 1978:
ovation timeline
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