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Location: Indiana | I have a 5778 4 ES that I have owned for several years. I do not see any others like it ever. Was this a guitar that they did n ot make many of? If I wanted to sell it, approximately what would it be worth? |
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Location: SoCal | This was a guitar, with an Englemen spruce top (ES?) that was built for the overseas market about 15 years ago. Ovation also built a Legend with the same woods. A few stayed in the U.S. They're really good guitars. There are threads in the archives regarding them that you might look up.
As to value, I've got no idea. They don't sell very often because there aren't that many of them. You might list it on ebay with a high reserve and see what happens..... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | This sort of knowledge is why we knew moody would never go over to the Taylor side. He's just too smart. |
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Location: SoCal | Taylors? Who said anything about me playing Taylors? |
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Location: closely held secret | Just an ugly rumor started by an ugly rumor monger. |
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Location: Tennessee | Play being the operative word there ... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I didn't say anything about playing Taylors. The only evidence we have was you held one.
I should confess that I strummed a couple Taylors that were hanging at GC the other day. They didn't sound bad. I played a Balladeer LX and wasn't impressed. It sounded dead. Tried a bunch of Taks and really liked one with a cedar top. The Martins and Taylors sounded OK and I gave some thought to going over to the dark side. Then I went home and played my Folklore. $300 for boomy bass, clear mids and highs, a great neck. That brought me back. |
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Location: SoCal | I very very very rarely am influenced by any guitar in the GC's. Usually the strings are dead and/or the set up is bad.
There was a Martin, made for GC, in my local GC that impressed the hell outta me. Basically a D28, I think it had a satin finish. Great sound and playability, all for about $1400. A very impressive guitar and I don't say that about a lot of Martins. I've never said it about a Taylor..... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | There was a Martin, made for GC, in my local GC that impressed the hell outta me. Basically a D28, I think it had a satin finish. Great sound and playability, all for about $1400. A very impressive guitar and I don't say that about a lot of Martins. I've never said it about a Taylor.....
Because you haven't played mine... ;) :D |
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Location: Tennessee | Paul, that Martin had the gloss finish and it was a great guitar for its $1400 price tag. It was the best sounding guitar in the whole place. Second best was the Epiphone Masterbilt at about $700 ... just freaking awesome for the money.
Back on topic, that 5778-4ES is a fine guitar, but I doubt it will bring much more than a similar basic Elite. Don't count on it funding a retirement or putting a kid through college. Ovations just don't get the respect they deserve. There, I've said it. Or repeated it at least. :cool: |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I'll back up Paul, whatever he didn't say he didn't do.
Maybe. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by MWoody:
I'll back up Paul, whatever he didn't say he didn't do.
Maybe. If you didn't record it, I didn't say it.
Possibly.
Mikey, I won't argue about Taylors. They're biggest problem, in my opinion, is that they aren't worth the money people pay for them. They are good guitars, but people pay $3500 for a guitar that I think is worth about $1200. If it puts a smile on somebody's face and they think they got their money's worth, then all the more power to them. I play guitars that deliver a lot more for a lot less. That's why that Martin impressed me so much. It was a lotta guitar for the bucks..... |
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Location: CA | I've long wondered about a problem mentioned above: how to really quantify how good a guitar sound at a place like GC. Because, as pointed out, half of the 'new' guitars hanging in there have old crappy strings. I stop in my local GC whenever I'm downtown and just plunk around. One day, I'll like a Gibson Songwriter (which is a spectacularly beautiful guitar), but the next time I go in two weeks later, it sounds pretty plain and I'm liking one of the Taylors, or Taks or geez, even one of the Fender acoustics sounded really good — once. On the Ovation wall, that new Celeb sounds lightyears better than the dusty old '5-string' Balladeer that's been hanging there for about a year. And so on.
Years ago, there was a small hometown music shop (now long gone) that specialized in Martins and Gibsons. The owner was happy to put you in the soundroom where you could play anything and everything he had (after he got to know you a bit, anyway). And everything he had had new or newish strings and was in tune. That was truly amazing as you could play, like, five outwardly identical H-28s and they all sounded a bit different.
To this day, the prettiest sounding acoustic I've ever played was at that place. I don't remember the Martin model number (00 something?) but it was a smallish-bodied 'auditorium size' Eric Clapton signature model listed, as I recall, at around $5K. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Back to the orinal question. Is they the one with the spruce peghaed vernner? Those were very cool instruments, They should bring a grand I'd think. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Beal,
the one you are thinking of was the 1768 EMSX, which can be seen in my signature.
The 5778 ES was based on the Standard Elite, only difference should be the Engelmann top.
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Kurt |
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