wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?
lanaki
Posted 2008-06-24 7:27 PM (#302819)
Subject: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?


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i've got a like-new ovation elite 2078T with ohsc that i would be interested in trading for a nice digital slr camera. looking for a camera with at least 8 megapixels, preferably a nikon, canon, sony or olympus. must be slr with a similar market value of around $600. please pm me if interested. mahalo!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-24 11:17 PM (#302820 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?



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Hey Randy, see if you can get Damon to sell you one of his. His cameras all take really good pics.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-25 1:52 PM (#302821 - in reply to #302819)
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Don't have an SLR. Don't have 8mp+ either. My setup cost around $1200 new, but it's 4 years old now. Worthless in the technology market. You could get my setup pretty cheap now.

I just found the camera for $140 BIN on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Coolpix-5700-5-0-Megapixel-Excellent-Cond...

And the flash for $85

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIKON-SB-50-DX-flash_W0QQitemZ310060754202QQihZ...

$225 for both, what a bargain.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-06-25 1:56 PM (#302822 - in reply to #302819)
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So it's not the equipment that makes for good pictures. It must be talent. Sort of like when someone else plays my guitars, they sound much better.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-25 2:17 PM (#302823 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?


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i meant SLR type, rather than a pocket digital camera. and one with an adjustable hot shoe flash.
i'm cash poor and have a few more guitars than i really need.
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Beggin
Posted 2008-06-25 2:35 PM (#302824 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?


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Originally posted by lanaki:

i'm cash poor and have a few more guitars than i really need.
No such thing Randy.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-25 2:35 PM (#302825 - in reply to #302819)
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which part?
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Beggin
Posted 2008-06-25 2:38 PM (#302826 - in reply to #302819)
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the guitar part.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-25 2:41 PM (#302827 - in reply to #302819)
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well...i said "need". which has nothing in common with "want".
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-06-25 2:56 PM (#302828 - in reply to #302819)
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Originally posted by lanaki:
well...i said "need". which has nothing in common with "want".
True.
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Beggin
Posted 2008-06-25 3:09 PM (#302829 - in reply to #302819)
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spoken by 2 people who know!

I'll bow out now...better late than never.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-06-25 10:06 PM (#302830 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
So it's not the equipment that makes for good pictures. It must be talent.
Mixture of everything. If you don't have the "eyes" for the motive, how would the cam have them?

But it's easier to take "good" pictures with a ritsch-ratsch-click than with a SLR. "Good" means good in the eyes of the normal viewer.

Pocket cams are built to show everything sharp, from the guitar in the front up to the mountains and trees in the back. They have algorythms built in and other stuff I don't understand, that sharpen the picture "right out of the cam", so the average user and viewer says "Wow, this picture is great". Because regular meaning is "sharp is good".

And even if you have the possibility to stop the aperture on your pocket, the camera inside will do stuff, a SLR - and I am speaking of a SLR in a NON-MOTIVE-PROGRAMM - won't do.

That's why people often wonder - after years of digital pocketing - when they buy a DSLR, the pics look like S#%t to them. Because not everything in the picture is sharp.

But if you learn to understand the cam, don't let "her" decide, what the photographer should decide - and accept, that sharp is not the only quality attribute - a DSLR can be great!

Best regards,
Kurt
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-06-25 10:16 PM (#302831 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?



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For example...


I doubt you would be able to make a picture like this with a pocket.
So, now you say, this picture is crap? Everything but the guitar is blurry and not sharp?

Okay, then, buy a pocket.

Best regards,
Kurt
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-06-25 10:40 PM (#302832 - in reply to #302819)
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Great Kurt, now I've got to clean the drool out of my keyboard. Thanks a lot! ;)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-06-26 12:51 AM (#302833 - in reply to #302819)
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Oh the pain ....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-06-26 1:02 AM (#302834 - in reply to #302819)
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I never used to like that color, but it's seriously growing on me.

With the new digital cameras, if you take the time to learn them, you can do almost anything that you used to do with a 35mm SLR. But reading thru that instruction manual......
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-06-26 1:34 AM (#302835 - in reply to #302819)
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Kick, Kick, Kick ...
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-26 2:00 AM (#302836 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
So it's not the equipment that makes for good pictures. It must be talent. Sort of like when someone else plays my guitars, they sound much better.
That's good equipment I listed it's just older. I'm saying you don't have to spend a whole freakin' guitar's worth on your stuff.

And unless you plan on printing poster sized prints, 8 MP is overkill.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-26 2:20 AM (#302837 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?


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i need the 8 mp for A/V services that i am offering in my video production business, like poster-sized prints.

and that -9 is amazing, kurt. did you buy it from dave, or is he just kicking himself for selling one like it?
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-06-26 11:36 AM (#302838 - in reply to #302819)
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Lots to be said for framing shots as well.
This is my 1688-7 in my back yard as photographed w/the wife's Nikon D-40X (10.2 meg.)



This was shot with my Kodak 7.2 meg:



I like both camera's; the Nikon has capablities I have not explored yet.
Randy, ebay might be the best shot for you...
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-06-26 11:57 AM (#302839 - in reply to #302819)
Subject: Re: wanna trade my nearly new ovation for your camera?



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Originally posted by lanaki:
did you buy it from dave, or is he just kicking himself for selling one like it?
I really don't know what's bothering Gallerina.

I bought the 1687-9 from a very nice guy. No, two guys. Or was it three...? Can't remember exactly.

Regards,
Kurt
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-29 4:00 AM (#302840 - in reply to #302819)
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Ah, that's better.


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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-06-29 7:09 PM (#302841 - in reply to #302819)
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Muzz, nice photoshop, but I prefer the broccoli.
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-29 7:45 PM (#302842 - in reply to #302819)
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If I ever happened to somehow own one of these, the headstock would end up looking like the one I'm checking out for you this afternoon.

I can't tell you how much I hate them.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-06-29 7:48 PM (#302843 - in reply to #302819)
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Some people have way too much time on their hands....
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lanaki
Posted 2008-06-30 11:30 AM (#302844 - in reply to #302819)
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i think the broccoli (acanthus) headstocks on a six stringer would look better if they were more tapered towards the top, similar to a twelve string. i'm not sure how to describe it, but i've always thought the adamas 1 headstocks on a six stringer look rather stark. there's a bit too much barren space between the pegs in relation to the rest of the headstock. the sound and playability more than makes up for the aesthetics though.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-06-30 12:23 PM (#302845 - in reply to #302819)
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Randy, a good thing about the huge amount of chunky, unuseful wood on the A I headstock: You could easily make a slothead out of it.

Regards, Kurt
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