Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?
Dr.Tom
Posted 2008-08-30 11:02 AM (#300323)
Subject: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?


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The active electronics no longer work and I'd like to get it working again.

Regards,

Tom
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-08-30 12:36 PM (#300324 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?
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Does anyone have a pic of the circuit board?
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stephent28
Posted 2008-08-30 12:49 PM (#300325 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?



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Hard to find and expensive if you do.

I'm not even sure if Miles has any of these available.
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MWoody
Posted 2008-08-30 1:18 PM (#300326 - in reply to #300323)
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I have a number of shots in my gallery (I'm lazier than you are) and Dr. Numb-fingers has a semi working circuit board of mine at this time.

Original would be nice and that is a lovely model.

I'll wait for the good Doctor to chime in. Perhaps he could resesitate your cadiver?

Sound wise I prefer a set of Phat Cats and 500K pots but restoration is best.

Let me know if you need to scatter some parts.

Did you ever finish that OO you were assembling?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-08-30 2:47 PM (#300327 - in reply to #300323)
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DR. T,

It appears that the circuit board has discrete components. A local reputable electronic tech should be able to troubleshoot the problem.

Actually in most cases it is something relatively simple.

Good luck!
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Dr.Tom
Posted 2008-08-30 6:19 PM (#300328 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
DR. T,

It appears that the circuit board has discrete components. A local reputable electronic tech should be able to troubleshoot the problem.

Actually in most cases it is something relatively simple.

Good luck!
2ifbyC,

Thank you ; I will have some one check it out and see if they can trouble shoot it.

Regards,

Tom
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-08-30 7:56 PM (#300329 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?


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Dr. T and Woody-

I think that Woody's preamp is (mostly) working. The pickup selector switch was gone and had a nonfunctional replacement. I wired the pickups to an ordinary Viper-style switch and tapped directly into the input on the board. Seems to work but not tested in a guitar. Woody told me he wasn't in a hurry so he dropped to the bottom of the customer list. Strange, there's only one customer. I'll get right back on it. Gotta check on the availability of the original switch.

Dr. T, what symptoms does your preamp have?

-Steve W.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-08-31 2:20 AM (#300330 - in reply to #300323)
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Miles might have one, unless I relieved him of the last one when I was there.

Depends on the problem.

I had one that just wouldn't power up and it was simply a poor battery connection ,the joint looked ok but on test was open circuit.

Some initial conductivity tests are in order.

BTW DrT thats a nice one and the trc?

AJ
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-08-31 10:22 AM (#300331 - in reply to #300323)
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James brings up a good point. The battery clips and wires can fail because of tugging and twisting when changing the batteries. If the preamp makes no sound at all, then the battery connections are the place to start. Easy to fix.

There are a couple of schematics here: http://www.doremi.co.uk/breadwinner/circuits.html

BruDev has some nicely redrawn schematics in his photo gallery on this site.

-Steve W.
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MWoody
Posted 2008-08-31 1:15 PM (#300332 - in reply to #300323)
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The Battery connectors are about the only part you can still get at Radio Shack and they are cheap.

I'm a Non-Electricians but I have learned to troubleshoot starting at the power source. In each of the Active Preamps I have handled there is almost always the need to replace a battery lead. Plastic doesn't age well and the more flexible it needs to be the sooner it wears out.

This Tuesday the Celebrity Deacon Proto arrives and prior to sending it on to AJ I will photo it inside and out for curiosity sake.

Then play the snot out of it... cuz I can!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-08-31 1:18 PM (#300333 - in reply to #300323)
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Just some bullet points.

- I do have switches
- #1 Failure Point is the battery leads
- #2 Failure Point the pots (oddly enough)
- #3 Input Jack / Switch
- #4 Failure point the Transistors (probably due to a failure of one of the above)

Total silence, no clicks, blips, hiss, buzz... I would check #1 and #3, as "most" of the other failures still results in some sort of unpleasant noise, or at least hiss.

The jack "switch" is a real sleeper. Everything from some corrosion to the lead that touches the jack no longer touching the jack, to the little plastic nub that engages the lead just wearing out and no longer helping the lead to make contact.
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BruDeV
Posted 2008-08-31 6:17 PM (#300334 - in reply to #300323)
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I suspect that the pots fail because of the sponge rubber in the battery compartment. It decomposses and the particles get into the pots.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-09-04 8:29 PM (#300335 - in reply to #300323)
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A beauty Dr. T; makes a great pair with my newest addition which is on its way...

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Dr.Tom
Posted 2008-09-07 9:23 AM (#300336 - in reply to #300323)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
A beauty Dr. T; makes a great pair with my newest addition which is on its way...

MusicMishka,

A beauty indeed! Let me know how it sounds and plays. It looks incredible.

Regards,

Tom
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-09-07 1:30 PM (#300337 - in reply to #300323)
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Dr. Tom, good to see you around again!
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Dr.Tom
Posted 2008-09-20 3:29 PM (#300338 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?


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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Dr. Tom, good to see you around again!
Trader Jim,

Thank you. As you can see I don't get here as often as I would like. But I'll try to be a more frequent visitor!

Best regards,

Tom
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MWoody
Posted 2008-09-20 9:22 PM (#300339 - in reply to #300323)
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Doc,

Is that the same examination table that... oh never mind.

Numbfingers got called away on business or life and the repair of my Pd board has been set back once more. That's ok though because I'm still trying to catch up to myself.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-09-21 6:15 AM (#300340 - in reply to #300323)
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That's a similar colour to the one I just picked up.
Georgeous!!


Poor photo, but excellent according to Malabar Glenn who took delivery of it for me.

Thanks Glenn

AJ
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Dr.Tom
Posted 2008-09-27 12:02 PM (#300341 - in reply to #300323)
Subject: Re: Any one have a circuit board for my Deacon?


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Just some bullet points.

- I do have switches
- #1 Failure Point is the battery leads
- #2 Failure Point the pots (oddly enough)
- #3 Input Jack / Switch
- #4 Failure point the Transistors (probably due to a failure of one of the above)

Total silence, no clicks, blips, hiss, buzz... I would check #1 and #3, as "most" of the other failures still results in some sort of unpleasant noise, or at least hiss.

The jack "switch" is a real sleeper. Everything from some corrosion to the lead that touches the jack no longer touching the jack, to the little plastic nub that engages the lead just wearing out and no longer helping the lead to make contact.
I'll definitely check all of these out. #3 could be the culprit. The guitar stopped working as I was pulling out the guitar cable and handing it to my guitar teacher for him to try . As he put his guitar cable in : no sound , it just seemed to cut out and that was the end of the electronics working.

Regards,

Tom
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-09-28 10:05 AM (#300342 - in reply to #300323)
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Tom,

Jack switch certainly sounds a likely contender.
Hey, his cable or yours?
Sounds simple I know but stranger things have happened.

AJ
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