FS Adamas OFC guitar 1/12
alpep
Posted 2008-09-24 8:53 AM (#299533)
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Well, you may catch me changing my mind on this one but yes number 1/12 is for sale. If you need a pic just look at my myspace page myspace/lostartvintage.

basically #47 specs but with electronics. My color is more like the early 2 knob non slotheads than the slothead blue. this was later corrected on 2-12.

label signed by CWKII and myself letter of authenticity. carbon fiber case etc etc etc.

this was the first guitar they built and although all of them are stellar guitars they really took great pains in making this one perfect for me.

e me with offers.
do not insult me or low ball me.

You will probably never see ovation build these guitars again
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-09-24 10:18 AM (#299534 - in reply to #299533)
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WOW, I know it's over my head, but a great guitar!
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-09-24 10:28 AM (#299535 - in reply to #299533)
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Al, your mama dresses you funny.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-24 10:28 AM (#299536 - in reply to #299533)
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Good luck Al. That will make someone very happy!
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-09-24 10:29 AM (#299537 - in reply to #299533)
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Oops. I posted that before I saw the note about not insulting you. Sorry.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-24 11:53 AM (#299538 - in reply to #299533)
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This is one to go over your head on.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-24 1:31 PM (#299539 - in reply to #299533)
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*double deep agonizing sigh*
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-24 1:32 PM (#299540 - in reply to #299533)
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Al, would you consider a kidney?
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seesquare
Posted 2008-09-24 1:56 PM (#299541 - in reply to #299533)
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Or, a 10-year laywaway plan?
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2008-09-24 2:47 PM (#299542 - in reply to #299533)
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OMG...... :eek:
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G8r
Posted 2008-09-24 2:54 PM (#299543 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by Tim in Tidewater:
OMG...... :eek:
No sh!#
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2008-09-24 2:55 PM (#299544 - in reply to #299533)
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You really must have hard times over there if somebody considers selling THIS guitar!?

Karl
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-24 3:03 PM (#299545 - in reply to #299533)
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Somebody here should buy it and keep it in the family. My guess is that this opportunity to buy one of 12 very unique guitars is not going to be coming around again any time soon.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-24 3:19 PM (#299546 - in reply to #299533)
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I can think of several people in the family that really "need" this. I never felt worthy of being one of the apostles, but I'm not giving up #11 if I can possibly help it. I've only had one new car in my life and the OFC guitar was almost as special. In some respects it is much more special. Cars depreciate.
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G8r
Posted 2008-09-24 3:25 PM (#299547 - in reply to #299533)
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Timeshare? This REALLY shouldn't leave the family.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-09-24 3:35 PM (#299548 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
My guess is that this opportunity to buy one of 12 very unique guitars is not going to be coming around again any time soon.....
Not likely in any of our lifetimes or in any of our children's grandkids lifetimes (for those that participate in those sort of things). I'm not even sure they are capable of making these anymore if they wanted to. Besides that 1/12 is unique, even among the 12.

I think over time the only more desirable/collectible guitar, would be an Original slot-head prototype.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-24 3:50 PM (#299549 - in reply to #299533)
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I don't play my OFC guitar as much as I play my 87C, but it does get played on a very regular basis. It's a great guitar. But more importantly, it's the OFC guitar. Since I obviously don't have a life, this place has become my local "pub". That guitar represents all the best of it.

And, it is a great guitar.....
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-24 4:05 PM (#299550 - in reply to #299533)
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(ding!) . . .
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-24 4:10 PM (#299551 - in reply to #299533)
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...and (ding!) again...

Paul , which guitar represents the worst of it?
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-24 4:22 PM (#299552 - in reply to #299533)
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Al, I am really sorry to see you sell this. A real opertunity for those of you in this group who have some cash to work with.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-24 4:28 PM (#299553 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Paul , which guitar represents the worst of it?
78 Legend. Biggest piece of SH!T. (Clunk)

But to get back to the topic, I hope either Al's OFC guitar (ding) goes to a great home or that he decides to keep it. It's a whole lot more than the sum of it's parts....
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-09-24 4:38 PM (#299554 - in reply to #299533)
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Very cool.
I wish I could make a run at it.
But.. Al doesn't want to read a bunch of whiners. Somebody who can, green up and take it off his hands!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-24 4:44 PM (#299555 - in reply to #299533)
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Thanks, Paul. Now I can forgive my wife for refusing to buy my neighbor's 77 Legend and getting me the OFC instead. Waiting 5 years proved worthwhile.
Although one of the 12 LAV Koas was resold, this is the first resale of an OFC as far as we know. It makes some sense for Al to sell it, since he is a guitar dealer, but it is a special guitar that should be kept in the family forever. Maybe someday someone will be trying to track down all 12 of these like the original slotheads.
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seesquare
Posted 2008-09-24 11:04 PM (#299556 - in reply to #299533)
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Akin to,
"How much is that Bentley?"
Well, never mind.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-09-25 3:48 AM (#299557 - in reply to #299533)
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Very special guitar. I agree with Miles. We waited a long time and Al went through hoops to get the deal done. It'll never happen again, or if it does, the price will be 2 or 3X what it was. Mine has already achieved status of family heirloom. Good thing I have decendents who play.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-25 8:59 AM (#299558 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Although one of the 12 LAV Koas was resold, this is the first resale of an OFC as far as we know.
My personal opinion, this might not be any more of a resale than any of the other 11. Since they were all custom made to Al's personal specs, it has never been sold by the original dealer. He's simply held onto and tested the first one a little longer than the others. Al, does it still come with the lifetime warranty?
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MWoody
Posted 2008-09-25 9:06 AM (#299559 - in reply to #299533)
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Al - Will you ship to Australia?

(one missisippi, two missisippi...)

"Timeshare? This REALLY shouldn't leave the family."

Put me down for December!
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-25 9:17 AM (#299560 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Although one of the 12 LAV Koas was resold, this is the first resale of an OFC as far as we know.
My personal opinion, this might not be any more of a resale than any of the other 11. Since they were all custom made to Al's personal specs, it has never been sold by the original dealer. He's simply held onto and tested the first one a little longer than the others. Al, does it still come with the lifetime warranty?
Good point
Since I am a dealer and this guitar has never been sold. It can come with the warranty.

FYI I have one confirmed firm offer. (I must have asked too low) Although that individual will need time to get the cash together.

for now the guitar will rest with me. I am now getting cold feet about selling it. For me this guitar represents many things. The achievement of the OFC, the friendships of many of the members that I have made and the relationship that I hold with the guys in the Factory and some in Bloomfield.

That said there is also the downside, It represents the frustration of getting these approved and finally finished, the ridicule I got from some board members, and most importantly the frustration, heartship, threat of lawsuit etc, posed by certain former board member. Sometimes just looking at this guitar makes me relive a period of my life that I am not so fond of reliving.

the guitar itself is as close to perfect as I could imagine. I remember the day I got it and I ripped open the box and stummed the first chord. I knew that the factory "got it right". That was very exciting for me. But in practicality, I need a cutaway and the on board tuner to use it in performace and I just have to much inventory. I am thinking of taking one of my 08 collector's and having it retro fit with the al dimeola boost preamp. If I can convince them to put the adamas I overleaf on the headstock then it would be perfect LOL

For now, the ofc 1/12 guitar is off the table.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-25 9:19 AM (#299561 - in reply to #299533)
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RaffleIt.

Those who want "in" send in a check for $50.
Once you've amassed your SalePrice, pull the name (or have an ImpartialParty do it, if you're uncomfortable) pull the winner out of your hat . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-25 9:21 AM (#299562 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by alpep:
For me this guitar represents many things. The achievement of the OFC, the friendships of many of the members that I have made and the relationship that I hold with the guys in the Factory and some in Bloomfield.
Perfectly said. What I was trying to say earlier....


282.... Remember
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-25 9:55 AM (#299563 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by cliff:
RaffleIt.

Those who want "in" send in a check for $50.
Once you've amassed your SalePrice, pull the name (or have an ImpartialParty do it, if you're uncomfortable) pull the winner out of your hat . . .
laws governing auctions are very complicated vary from state to state and can be a legal nightmare.

you are getting too much spam from our friends in the UK that have sent you a $$$$$$$ prize
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-25 10:08 AM (#299564 - in reply to #299533)
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A cutaway has become a much needed option for me as well Al. Personally I would make a gentlemans agreement that whomever buy's this guitar has to at the very least offer it back to you first if the day comes that they need or want to sell it again.
I'd also like to mention I fell this OFC guitar like the Koa's are the most interesting and increadible guitars anyone has ever taken the time to have made. Your efforts in these projects and the amazing guitars produced should never be a bad memory for you.
FACT If I was a wealthy man I would own one of them all. By the way the headstock on the 08 would be the cats ass if it were carved!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-25 10:31 AM (#299565 - in reply to #299533)
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I was a relative latecomer to this party. The OFC was in the works by the time I figured out what it was. I never thought that I would get a chance at one and my playing abilities didn't really fit the guitar. When they weren't snapped up immediately, and after some prompting by some of you, I went back and read all the stuff in the archives about the OFC guitar. I can appreciate what Al just said. My first conversation ever with him was when I placed the order on my birthday. Like many of you on this board, Al is just a great guy to know. And Al, if you had a nickel for every time I'd been threatened with a lawsuit, you'd be a rich man. Unfortunately, that seems to be the American way anymore.
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-25 10:31 AM (#299566 - in reply to #299533)
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since we are keeping score

guitars I had built for the OFC

OFC guitar

u681t 12

koa 12 fret

koa 14 fret
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-25 12:27 PM (#299567 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by alpep:
since we are keeping score

guitars I had built for the OFC

OFC guitar

u681t 12

koa 12 fret

koa 14 fret
Nice legacy you've got going there, Al. And while I'm not fortunate enough to have any of them in the personal stable, I've played a couple of them and they're outstanding. Thanks.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-25 12:51 PM (#299568 - in reply to #299533)
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Sure would be nice to have matching Utes, but I just never play a 12 string. It was a great idea, though.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-25 1:16 PM (#299569 - in reply to #299533)
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Mark, Come and play mine ...

Nice seeing you last night. Sorry I was a little rushed, didn't mean to seem rude. Was late to meet a customer for dinner.

Dave
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MWoody
Posted 2008-09-25 1:24 PM (#299570 - in reply to #299533)
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"RaffleIt.

Those who want "in" send in a check for $50.
Once you've amassed your SalePrice, pull the name (or have an ImpartialParty do it, if you're uncomfortable) pull the winner out of your hat . . ."

There are other words for Raffle...

Just offer an opportunity to win the Hat... with a free guitar.

I'll play.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-25 3:00 PM (#299571 - in reply to #299533)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:


Mark, Come and play mine ...

Nice seeing you last night. Sorry I was a little rushed, didn't mean to seem rude. Was late to meet a customer for dinner.

Dave
Bring it with you next time. I didn't think you were rude, except for not telling me you were in town. Next time you walk by me on the sidewalk, I'll show you rude. But then dinner is on me.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-09-25 4:30 PM (#299572 - in reply to #299533)
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Mark,

Depending on the winds....only about 7 hours to Phoenix....(and $800 in avgas for a round trip)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-25 4:52 PM (#299573 - in reply to #299533)
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Except that Dave proved my suspicions correct. I was sitting in Boise eating at a sidewalk restaurant and there goes Dave walking by. I don't need to go to Phoenix if he would just bring his guitars here when he comes.
Of course, I have to assume that if I see him on this chance encounter, he's probably been here a bunch of other times and didn't let me know.
All that's really beside the point. I just never play 12 strings, so there's no point in playing one that I'm never going to use.
The 08C is a different story. I'll check on my first free weekend and see if a trip to Hermiston can be arranged. I'll be at Wallowa Lake in a couple of weeks. Is that close enough?
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-25 5:09 PM (#299574 - in reply to #299533)
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Mark, make sure you run into Enterprise and have lunch or dinner at Lear's Pub & Grill. They serve the best burger you're ever likely to eat.
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povation
Posted 2008-10-19 7:08 AM (#299575 - in reply to #299533)
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Dear Alpep,
Adamas OFC guitar 1/12
Available for sale? How much is it?
Thanks.
povation
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alpep
Posted 2013-09-30 7:29 PM (#476601 - in reply to #299533)
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OK
there has been some interest in this guitar again.
it is up on the table again.
if interested let me know
It has strong sentimental value so don't insult me.
you will NEVER and I mean NEVER see a guitar like this again.

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hwebster
Posted 2013-10-02 8:33 AM (#476634 - in reply to #299533)
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Why don't you post the price?
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alpep
Posted 2013-10-02 9:55 AM (#476635 - in reply to #299533)
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guitar is now sold
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povation
Posted 2013-10-02 10:05 AM (#476636 - in reply to #299533)
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Congrats.
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hwebster
Posted 2013-10-02 8:23 PM (#476655 - in reply to #299533)
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Congratulations, that was fast. Now, what is the next project? A 08 C with a carved headstock, that will be nice too.
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alpep
Posted 2013-10-03 11:45 AM (#477663 - in reply to #299533)
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I would love to do more projects for the OFC but there is not that much interest in it.
prices have also gone way up.

I still have a couple of koa guitars that were spoken for when I ordered them and never picked up.
anything I do in the future would have to be done with payment up front

sorry to say people's word is just not good enough anymore
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stephent28
Posted 2013-10-03 7:32 PM (#477670 - in reply to #476655)
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hwebster - 2013-10-02 7:23 PM Congratulations, that was fast.

 

Fast?
The original thread started 5 years ago......I would classify as one of the slowest sales in OFC history.

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Standingovation
Posted 2013-10-04 6:24 AM (#477678 - in reply to #299533)
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Maybe it took 5 years to save up enough money to buy it !!!
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hwebster
Posted 2013-10-04 8:27 AM (#477679 - in reply to #299533)
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There was some interested in this guitar again and that may have speed up the sale.
Someone must be happy, those years of savings are worth it for such nice guitar. Now, who is the lucky 1 for the # 1 OFC I ?
Congrats!



Edited by hwebster 2013-10-04 8:30 AM
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nerdydave
Posted 2013-10-04 9:19 AM (#477680 - in reply to #299533)
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How bout a pic of one of the KOA's??
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Standingovation
Posted 2013-10-04 9:40 AM (#477681 - in reply to #299533)
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One of those Koa's? Heck how about TWO - a 12 fretter and a 14 fretter ...

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Posted 2013-10-04 2:41 PM (#477696 - in reply to #299533)
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What's on the trc of the 12 fretter?
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Standingovation
Posted 2013-10-04 4:11 PM (#477701 - in reply to #299533)
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I dunno. Some creepy luthier must of installed it while teaching a set-up clinic or something ...
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MWoody
Posted 2013-10-04 9:17 PM (#477710 - in reply to #299533)
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mmmmmmmm Koa!



Edited by MWoody 2013-10-04 9:18 PM
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Guitsome
Posted 2013-10-05 5:08 PM (#477736 - in reply to #299533)
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I thought you had to post a price?
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Standingovation
Posted 2013-10-05 6:39 PM (#477739 - in reply to #299533)
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I think the owner of the site can pretty much do what he wants ...
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stephent28
Posted 2013-10-05 10:04 PM (#477741 - in reply to #299533)
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+1 with standingO

Plus the original post from 5 years ago was before the post a price rule was instituted.
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Posted 2013-10-06 7:38 AM (#477753 - in reply to #477741)
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stephent28 - 2013-10-05 10:04 PM

Plus the original post from 5 years ago was before the post a price rule was instituted.


I was about to point this out as well. No big deal. If this had been posted recently, I'm certain the price would be there........and most of us would be reeling from an unfortunate mix of sticker shock and envy.

Congrats to the new owner. I'd love to play one of these one day.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2013-10-08 11:44 PM (#477847 - in reply to #299533)
Subject: Re: FS Adamas OFC guitar 1/12


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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains
Al, really can't congratulate the sale as I know how hard it was to offer and then let it go...but hopefully it went to a great home...and life goes on...
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