For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway
Lyon
Posted 2008-11-04 10:05 AM (#298285)
Subject: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway


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I have for sale an Adamas 1 oblong cutaway prototype signed by Charles and Bill Kaman, with original case and case cover in immaculate condition.
Guitar has all original wiring, is dark blue and has been kept inside since received by Ovation. Original frets in excellent condition.

http://www.chrissnider.net/c4/miscgear_photos.htm

If anyone know what the value of this piece is, please post it. Ovation could not tell me.
Thank you
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-04 10:21 AM (#298286 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway


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It's hard to determine the value of a piece like this one. Value is based upon what somebody in the marketplace would pay for it, not an arbitrary set number. Compared to other guitars, Ovations (and Adamii) are undervalued in the marketplace.

A guitar like this one, while very cool, is probably only going to be worth $2-$3000. A collector might pay more, but I wouldn't count on it.

This is only an estimate. Your actual mileage may vary.......
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 10:47 AM (#298287 - in reply to #298285)
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Lyon, I just emailed you. Give me a call.
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gulfcoast
Posted 2008-11-04 10:48 AM (#298288 - in reply to #298285)
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The Trader is on it.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 10:52 AM (#298289 - in reply to #298285)
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I think it's going to be over my head, but if anyone is interested, I can investigate.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-11-04 11:25 AM (#298290 - in reply to #298285)
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Lyon ,

Please excuse our manners: Welcome to the OFC family! :D

Get in touch with Trader Jim and he'll guide you straight.

Do ya have more pics? Looks like a very interesting guitar.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-11-04 11:33 AM (#298291 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway


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Beat ya to it TJ..lol...but, w/the new Patriot on the way, I'm probably out of bullets (unless you buy the 85C 12 lol)...and the rest sell...
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MWoody
Posted 2008-11-04 12:12 PM (#298292 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway



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That is vintage and lovely. Are you up for any trades?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 1:18 PM (#298293 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway


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The owner is bringing it to my house tonight for pictures because it's been locked in the case for so long, he doesn't know if he has the key accessible, so I have a couple that may fit. I'll post them as soon as I can. It may not leave...
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MWoody
Posted 2008-11-04 1:28 PM (#298294 - in reply to #298285)
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Aren't OHSC's one key fits all?

That is a lustable instrument.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 1:39 PM (#298295 - in reply to #298285)
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Nope, I know there's at least 2 different types.
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-11-04 3:13 PM (#298296 - in reply to #298285)
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Very interesting guitar (I love the prototypes... ;) )

It reminds me THAT ONE without the slothead.

J :)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 4:45 PM (#298297 - in reply to #298285)
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-11-04 4:50 PM (#298298 - in reply to #298285)
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Thanks for sharing the pics.
I love the blue and I want the same one for Christmas!!! :D

J :)
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Waskel
Posted 2008-11-04 5:06 PM (#298299 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway



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That is a pretty guitar!!!
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kotadawg
Posted 2008-11-04 5:28 PM (#298300 - in reply to #298285)
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Is it yours, TJ?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 5:33 PM (#298301 - in reply to #298285)
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Let's not start any UGLY rumors. No, unfortunately, it's not. Not enough scratch for the itch. Beautiful guitar though, and in pristine condition. I don't think it's seen the light of day for quite some time. Sound to match. Signed by Beal and Papa. Nice!! :D
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 5:35 PM (#298302 - in reply to #298285)
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Sorry, forgot the normal tree picture

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G8r
Posted 2008-11-04 5:50 PM (#298303 - in reply to #298285)
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WOW! Just...WOW!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-11-04 6:03 PM (#298304 - in reply to #298285)
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Are you sure it's 1979? I've got a feeling it's a little later, maybe 82/3-ish. Makes no difference, it's still a spectacular guitar. I've seen a handful of Ovation protos with that cutaway shape and I much prefer the shape that became the production version.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-11-04 6:31 PM (#298305 - in reply to #298285)
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What's the asking price?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-04 8:54 PM (#298306 - in reply to #298285)
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I kind of know what he's got in mind, but I'll let him post that. I do know a couple of people have shown interest in it so far. It's over my head though, I do know that.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-11-04 10:08 PM (#298307 - in reply to #298285)
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I like that shade of blue. Out of my league price wise I'm sure. :(
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-11-05 12:56 AM (#298308 - in reply to #298285)
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Like on some protos the SN seems to be the date:
03-06-1980??

The cutaway profile is very close to my LEGEND PROTO.

That Adamas is a very nice model!!!

J :)
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Lyon
Posted 2008-11-05 7:47 AM (#298309 - in reply to #298285)
Subject: Re: For Sale:1979 Prototype Adamas 1 cutaway


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Thank you forum members for your kind comments.
I have received several offers for the guitar and am just waiting for everyone to send me an email that has shown an interest in this piece.
I have given them an asking price and am waiting for the counter offers to arrive.
I do appreciate the kind words from everyone hear.

If I unintentionally mistated any date or other information, I sincerely apologize, but I did not have the information handy with me upon first posting the guitar.

As Jim Cannon will attest, the guitar has no scratches, dings, or fret wear. The case has never been out of the case-cover since owning it, and has been kept in a climate-controlled, smoke-free environment it's entire life. I have not plugged it in since taking delivery of it when I went to the dealer to pick it up. I played it plugged in there, then asked the dealer to remove the battery, and I zero'd out the volume and tone dials.

The strings were detuned one whole step and the neck is absolutely straight and true as a result.
The guitar's condition is as I received it and it still smells as it did from the factory inside the sound epaulet.

If anyone else wishes to purchase this piece, I would be happy to return their email. Feel free to speak with Trader Jim as he has seen and held this piece and has been quite generous in taking the pictures of it for me and has inspected it personally.
StephenHRudnick@Gmail.com
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stephent28
Posted 2008-11-05 8:11 AM (#298310 - in reply to #298285)
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Best of luck with selling it.
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Lyon
Posted 2008-11-06 12:53 PM (#298311 - in reply to #298285)
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AussieJames,
Please check your email.
Thank you
Stephen
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-06 3:14 PM (#298312 - in reply to #298285)
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Uh Oh, is the OZ connection happening? :D ;)
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-06 5:58 PM (#298313 - in reply to #298285)
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Cool! That means I might get a go! Keep Muzz away from that, broccoli does strange things to him. I'm beginning to think he had a bad experience with broccoli as a child. You know, it starts off like "Eat that or you can't have any dessert" then escalates and gets nasty. We may be judging him too harshly, it could all be a childhood trauma.

Back to topic: Go AJ go!
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TJR
Posted 2008-11-06 8:15 PM (#298314 - in reply to #298285)
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As others have mentioned, I too like the later and style cutaway shape. Jerome mentioned liking the prototypes. Notice this cobalt blue one and Jeromes have the KMC Group label.( I really prefer this blue over the typicial "eye Shadow" blue.)

Looking at the pics in Jeromes link it appears that you can see the cut away protion that was grafted into a typical fiberglass body. That's the stuff thats cool to me as well. I also have a slightly later 1587-5 KMC Group proto cutaway w/ the new EQ in black from 1981. It also has the cut away portion grafted in. Sadly i need to send it in since a brace has come loose at its end way below the bridge, and it seems to "buzz" as a result. .. MWoody has a pic or two of this one.. maybe he can post a small pic of it faster that I can...

Talbot
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-06 11:20 PM (#298315 - in reply to #298285)
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When I had a 1764 Country Artist (Remy, in France owns it now), it had the regular shape cutaway, but the cutaway was grafted onto the guitar. Just one of the very cool things about that guitar.....
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Lyon
Posted 2008-11-07 6:04 AM (#298316 - in reply to #298285)
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I wish to thank everyone here for the interest, and discussion on this Adamas.
As of this time, it is being held waiting for a check to arrive and clear.

If something happens to change this event, the guitar will be re-posted, but I don't anticipate that occurance transpiring.

My thanks to all who sent me emails with offers and wise advice concerning this piece as well. I sincerely appreciated everyones input.

This is a wonderful forum.
Stephen
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-07 6:50 AM (#298317 - in reply to #298285)
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Stephen, don't run off now. We like all types and makes of guitars (almost) ;) I'll give you a call today.
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povation
Posted 2008-11-07 6:58 AM (#298318 - in reply to #298285)
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Congratulations,?
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-07 7:50 AM (#298319 - in reply to #298285)
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The check will clear I guarantee it ;)

Richard you're cool, Muz might have to play in the traffic

AJ
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-07 9:07 AM (#298320 - in reply to #298285)
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Congrats AJ! You will love this one.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-07 9:48 AM (#298321 - in reply to #298285)
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Thanks TJ.

I sure is purty!!

AJ
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-11-07 10:22 AM (#298322 - in reply to #298285)
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Originally posted by AussieJames:

I sure is purty!!

AJ
Either that's a typo or AJ thinks he's a lot better looking than I do.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-07 10:57 PM (#298323 - in reply to #298285)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Originally posted by AussieJames:

I sure is purty!!

AJ
Either that's a typo or AJ thinks he's a lot better looking than I do.
Typo :D :D :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-11-08 8:41 AM (#298324 - in reply to #298285)
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This site is full of beautiful people, but I see no need to boast about it.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-08 5:08 PM (#298325 - in reply to #298285)
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Will it be here in time for BrissieJam08?
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-09 5:33 AM (#298326 - in reply to #298285)
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Unfortunately not Richard.

TJ is going to mind it for a while.

AJ
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-09 5:59 AM (#298327 - in reply to #298285)
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I'll try not to sell it :rolleyes:
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-10 10:55 AM (#298328 - in reply to #298285)
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I remember this guitar now and Mr Rudnick and his love for Mesa Boogie Amps. Yes this is one of the real early cutaway protos and it has the Molly Hachet dark blue that was only used on a very select few instruments.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-10 12:11 PM (#298329 - in reply to #298285)
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Texas must have done wonders for your memory Beal. :D Did ya buy anything?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-11-10 3:40 PM (#298330 - in reply to #298285)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Texas must have done wonders for your memory Beal. Did ya buy anything?
I assure you Texas did not do wonders for his memory. But I think he did buy dinner.

This wasn't the kind of visit where you lust over someone elses guitar. Because every freeking one there was amazing. I've actually never seen anything like it, a collection of people sitting around playing and every damn guitar was just simply stunning.

Instead of coming home with a "wish list", I think we all came home with an appreciation of how damn lucky we are to be able to own these things and how fortunate to be able to attend such a gathering.

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-10 3:55 PM (#298331 - in reply to #298285)
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Dave, are you talking about the guitars that you guys all brought, or the guitars at the Collings factory? Or was it a large group of people taking the tour who hung out together (like us at the hotel in CT)?
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-10 3:57 PM (#298332 - in reply to #298285)
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Bought nothing but sold two, actually placed them on consignment. A D42BaaaA that will go for around 11 and a 17"archtop that will go for 12-13.

What Dave said is true, every one was a great guitar, even the basic D1s. More than 50% were sunburst too.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-11-10 4:23 PM (#298333 - in reply to #298285)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Dave, are you talking about the guitars that you guys all brought, or the guitars at the Collings factory? Or was it a large group of people taking the tour who hung out together (like us at the hotel in CT)?
I'm talking about the Collings that people brought with them. Or the ones at the factory. Didn't matter, they all honked. Group was smaller than the 1st OFC gathering. Maybe 20 people. Most stayed at the same inn and lots of just sitting around playing, drinking, laughing and just hanging out. You know, how we usually do it.

Dave
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-18 9:24 AM (#298334 - in reply to #298285)
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Hey AJ, time to update your sig as of tonight! ;)
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-18 3:48 PM (#298335 - in reply to #298285)
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Thanks for your help Jim.

I am really looking forward to Amelia.

AJ :)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-18 4:15 PM (#298336 - in reply to #298285)
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AJ, glad to help! It just showed up and I will take good care of it for you.
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G8r
Posted 2008-11-18 5:55 PM (#298337 - in reply to #298285)
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Congrats AJ. You won't mind if I stroll on down to Jim's and make sure that guitar is all it's cracked up to be, right? ;)
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-18 5:58 PM (#298338 - in reply to #298285)
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TJ, get some video of G8r playing it. He really knows how to make a guitar sing.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-11-18 8:35 PM (#298339 - in reply to #298285)
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Serge be my guest :)

I'm sure you would do it better justice than I will.

AJ
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