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Location: NJ | want one?
get in touch with me ASAP
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | 1680 Adamas discontinued...
... tis truly a shame. This is my favorite Adamas. Plus if you're a walnut 'nut', this is the cat's azz!
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Location: SoCal | Iffy, I'm glad you liked this model. You're the one who bought the one guitar they made. I, on the other hand, never understood why they built this one. Like the FD14, it took a while for the 50 or so Utes that were built, to find homes. I never figured they'd sell many of these things...... |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
You're the one who bought the one guitar they made. I wish... :D
it took a while for the 50 or so Utes that were built, to find homes. Granted the 1680's M$RP is/was a shocker! Fortunately I got a good deal.
I'm sure that Al will make it worthwhile for anyone that's interested. ;) |
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Location: NJ | oh yeah the price is now nice due to the closeout
but what a shame this guitar should not go away
but.....
never mind
get the Adamas guitars while you can
I mean that
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Iffy, I'm glad you liked this model. You're the one who bought the one guitar they made. I, on the other hand, never understood why they built this one. Like the FD14, it took a while for the 50 or so Utes that were built, to find homes. I never figured they'd sell many of these things...... Paul, ever play one of these? Totally different animal from the UTE. I would love to get one, but It's outside of my means right now. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Al, your mailbox is full. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I think some guitars take a while to find their niche. The 1680 is a great little fingerpicker if you don't need access to the higher frets. Ovation don't sell many 1 3/4" neck guitars. Does anyone know the common favourite nut widths for other manufacturers? Is the 1 11/16 the defacto standard? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by alpep:
get the Adamas guitars while you can
I mean that
Are you hinting that the whole Adamas line might disappear???!!! :eek: |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Al, your mailbox is full. alpep@lostartvintagedotcom |
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Location: WNC-God's Country | I hate to hear this...The price for a 1680 is a little heavy but mine has turned out to be my favorite. IFFY, did you finally get one?
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Did you guys miss the fact that Al mentioned the price was now "nice" due to the closeout.
Stop speculating and start negotiating! |
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by stephent28:
Stop speculating and start negotiating! Exactly what William Shatner would say... |
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Location: WNC-God's Country | Al's price is XXXXXX....I already have one..
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PLEASE do not get my dealership taken away by posting prices |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by War Eagle:
IFFY, did you finally get one? Keith,
Yepper! I got the one that fugot had on the 'Bay.  |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I would really love to be able to pony up the $$ for one of these. When I first saw Keith's I thought, "another UTE" (which isn't a cut at all), but when i got to play it and listen to him play it, WOW. These are a world apart from the usual Adamas/Ovation. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
I would really love to be able to pony up the $$ for one of these. I know exactly what you mean. Me too. |
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Location: WNC-God's Country | Sorry about that Al..I thought everyone posted a price for their product under the "FOR SALE" category...I was just trying to help you move some product...
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | AL please email the price at rupert@boiledsweets.com
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Location: Boise, Idaho | This would be a fantastic entry into the Adamas realm for you dweezil. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Dweez, they don't get any better than this one, believe me. I was blown away by Keith's at the jam, as was Iffy. The only difference is Iffy had the $ to get one. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
The only difference is Iffy had the $ to get one. If I recall correctly, at the time I purchased the 1680 Jim had three gits in transit to his abode! :D
dweez,
If you haven't yet, do a '1680' OFC search. Sweet, sweet guitar! |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Originally posted by stephent28:
Stop speculating and start negotiating! Exactly what William Shatner would say... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Just I thought on this Model.
With Unique sound holes or finishes T-bolt Q tangent tribal flame etc.
People that want them grab them right away.
I would not be surprised if another LX braced model coming out in the near future. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Brain Fart....I thought it was one cats eye sound hole. My ignore my last post.
So whats left in production |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I think they're going back to helicopters. :D
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Completely different industry, but in my own job we do twice yearly "product policy" reviews where we identify the following.
- hot products, ramp more production
- cold products, burn inventory and discontinue
- new products, invest in R&D and launch
It's not quite as black and white as that, but I think you get the idea. The key thing is that a "cold product" is not a BAD product. It's either lived it's sellable lifetime, missed the mark as far as product definition pricepoint or advertising, or is just to costly to make.
The 1680 is a wonderful wonderful guitar, but I'm guessing it is extremely expensive to build, it's priced in a tough range (compete with martin, taylor) and I bet it did not sell well at all. I'd guess that 1680 is FAR more rare than the U681. I dunno, may 25-30 of them ???
The "writing on the wall" is right here on this forum. Members lamenting the discontinuation of the 1680. How many of those members have bought one (2?) and how many would if they were still available (?). And the OFC is probably one of the most fertile markets you're gonna find for this type of model.
It's sad, but as far as this model it's time to move on.
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | 25 - 30 made? Where did you get that figure from? I'm not doubting it just wondering... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by dweezil:
25 - 30 made? Where did you get that figure from? I'm not doubting it just wondering... I didn't get it from anywhere, just a guess that's why I wrote
I dunno, may 25-30 of them ???
It's been "in production" for 2 years and I would think if they made more than 2 a month that would be a lot. I think TOTAL Adamas production is only a handful per week.
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I wonder why the take up was so low compared to the UTE. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by dweezil:
I wonder why the take up was so low compared to the UTE. Price..... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | As Paul said.........
Ute was seriously underpriced for the guitar that it was. Should've be priced about the same as the 1680. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | How much was the UTE then? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The list price on the 1680 was about $1000 higher than the list price on the Ute, with only a year or so in between. I thought at the time that Ovation figured it didn't make enough of a good thing with the Ute and underpriced it, so came out with the 1680, didn't call it a limited production model and overpriced it. Only "overpriced" in the sense that it appeared to be a Ute varietal. Like many Ovations, it appeared to be a great guitar that just didn't fit the market, or marketing didn't do well with it.
One of the few visitors to my music room is a 80s hair band guy. He doesn't own an acoustic and tried all mine out. The only thing that impressed him was the Ute. He just couldn't get over it. There were buyers out there, but the seller just didn't find them. Al's price for the 1680 is a fantastic deal. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | As I've said before, the 1680 is in a different class from the UTE. I've owned two UTE's (no pun intended) and at least one of most of the Ovation line, along with quite a few other Adamas', and have played quite a few more exotic A models, but when I played Keith's 1680, I was blown away by the sound. IMHO the worst example of a 1680 would still be better than the best UTE you could find. These are the absolute best sounding guitars (including any Ovations) that have emerged from the factory. Plus, they look really cool in person. If I didn't already have one, I'd be all over this deal. Again, just my .02. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | "IMHO the worst example of a 1680 would still be better than the best UTE you could find. These are the absolute best sounding guitars (including any Ovations) that have emerged from the factory."
Ok, I gotta find one of these 1680's and give it a strum 'cause the Ute is one of my favorites. Hopefully I won't have to go to England to find one. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Ok, I gotta find one of these 1680's and give it a strum That can be arranged if ya can make it down to the G8r Bowl! |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Its not just the price range.
Its that stores did not have one to try.
I have never seen a new Adamas Guitar in a store. Other than the OFC event I seen 2 Adamas guitars in my life prior to that, in person.
One in customer service in the 90's
(There was a Bon Jovi/Sambora autographed T-Bolt hanging on the wall, whenever that was)
I saw a round sound hole smooth top once at an open mic. It did not impress.
Ovation selling lots guitars $300 to $500 price range. When those people out grow the beginners guitar there no better Ovations in stock at stores
to try & buy. People move on to Martin Gibson or Taylor.
I took a leap of faith on Adamas a few weeks ago.
I just love them.
I have 2 and 1 on the way now.
1 New 2 used.
The Adamas II is best I played sound wise.
Had I not been at the OFC and at May 07 gathering, I would have never taken that risk.
All 3 were bought sight unsceen.
Had there been a Custom Legend 12 still made.
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by Weaser P:
Ok, I gotta find one of these 1680's and give it a strum That can be arranged if ya can make it down to the G8r Bowl! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Weaser P:
so maybe we can cross paths then, iffy. ;) Sounds great! Maybe we can lure TJ up here for a mini-jam... 
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