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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Set of six (6) brand new Brazillian Rosewood tuner buttons...very handsome (Dress up your stock tuners), fit Schaller large size (NOT MINI). I bought two sets, only needed one. These sell for nearly $70 a set: $39.95 s/h included CONUS(except overseas)... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Sold (five minutes...wow!)! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nice. Where'd you find braz rosewood buttons? |
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Location: Scotland | I'd like to know that too, because I'm assured by my sources that they can not under any circumstances supply me with Bz Rosewood buttons because of the various international treaties affecting the trade in certain wood species, of which Brazillian Rosewood is one. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | They came from a supplier in Germany...not sure where they got them...nice buttons...seem very well made... |
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Location: Scotland | Whatever they may have told you, they are not Brazillian. I do this for a living. I know. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | That is how they were sold to me...I am just quoting them:the buttons do look like it...whatever... |
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Location: Scotland | yeah, whatever |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul, what is the problem? I don't know any more about it than this: they are what they are as far as I know...I have two Brazilian guitars and a complete back and side set w/peghead and bridge...they match very well...I don't have the DNA...They are how they were sold to me... |
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Location: Scotland | No problem, just don't believe everything you are told without knowing the facts. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | C.I.T.E.S. |
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Location: Scotland | Exactly. Mike if you PM me I'll tell you exactly which country those buttons originated from, and it's not Brazil.
They are superb items, but whoever told you they are Brazillian Rosewood lied, and you should not perpetuate the myth.
I could sell a ton more of mine if I said they were Brazillian (many of them have the colour and grain structure to convince the inexperienced ) but I have ethics, unlike it would appear whoever sold you yours. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Possibly that is the case Paul...but, my point is that I have no way of knowing any more than what I was told and what I bought the item as...and yes, Jeff, I know all about C.I.T.E.S....if the rosewood is pre-ban, it can still be sold...as was the case with the BRW set I bought some months back...were these? ???
I have no plans to buy anything else from that buyer, and in fact Paul, I show and tell everyone about the quality of the buttons you sell...they're first rate!
Merry Christmas all! |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
if the rosewood is pre-ban, it can still be sold...a Unless they've been holding that Bz rosewood lumber since 1992 to make those buttons, then they'd need a permit to trade across international borders. Maybe you need to advertise them as "pre-ban" But be sure it is actually "pre-ban" and not just that you "believe it to be pre-ban"
Merry Christmas! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | WOW! A respected OFC member represents an item as represented to them and gets slammed...
Next thing ya know we'll need provenance for plectrums... :rolleyes:
Education at any level is appreciated but requesting PMs after failing to use 'em in the first place is not very diplomatic.
BTW, I have four pre-ban AR-15 receivers that were grandfathered prior to the Clinton-era ban. Guess what? They are and have been legal!
I also have a neighbor that collects pre-ban ivory. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
WOW! A respected OFC member represents an item as represented to them and gets slammed...
It's got nothing to do with who it is. This is not a personal spat between me and Mike, we are both above that. It's everything to do with fact and what's right. If somebody came here trying to sell a Celebrity as a USA Ovation, because that's what they'd been told it was and beleived it was, they'd be corrected, in no uncertain terms, It happens regularly. This is no different, the subject matter is just a little more esoteric. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | That's a good point Paul...since I don't know the source of the wood I'll call it "Nicely Grained Rosewood Tuner Buttons that were originally sold to me as BRW that may in fact be Pre-ban BRZ but since it has no COA and I can not prove it is BRZ then it may be generic Rosewood... :eek: :D ;) the buyer has been notified...
I ran a retail music store for nearly 7 years...I did well but I don't miss it...thanks for reminding me Paul...lol |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul, I was writing and missed the last bit: we're cool and you made a good point...my point was I just don't know...and we're OK! |
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| It's all good. Paul, after the holidays I need to get in touch with you about maybe bringing several sets of tuner buttons for me in March. |
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Location: Germany | Interesting discussion. They claim that the Josh White and Balladeer reissue models have BRW bridges. So if these parts are not made of pre-ban lumber (are they?) would I have needed a permit to import my JW and DB rebuilds with their new BRW brigdes?
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Short answer is that; if it was NOT pre-ban it would be illegal to trade. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Wow! Quite a discussion on rosewood tuner buttons. I like the look of rosewood and have been contemplating a set from paul also. I personally don't care what country the wood came from though. (although I do appreciate the concern over the depleting rain forests) I'm sure niether I nor most other people couldn't tell the difference on a set of buttons. I DO however know a couple of luthiers that have LOTS of old wood stock in their possession that has been laying on their supply shelves for over 20-30 years. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Oh .. and on the pre-ban AR-15 receivers Iffy ... I'd hang on to them if I were you, because they'll probably be banned again soon. |
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Location: NJ | The current issue of FretboardJournal has two good informative articles in it. One on BrazRose, the other on CITES (along w/a bunch of really interesting "other" stuff).
btw, Paul;
It's waiting for you in th'Loo.
s'got a really good interview/article on Lindley. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | OK, I'll check it out. I DID have a friend approach me the other day all spazzed out, worried about being able to ever travel with his guitar again, in fear of having it confiscated. |
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Location: Portland, OR | Not to beat a dead horse, but can't you have Braz. Rosewood that isn't grown in Brazil. For example, the little town I grew up in in Calif had a beautiful bunch of Eucalyptus trees. Now word was that they came from Australia. I don't suppose it would be appropriate to call them anything but Australian trees. There are other countless examples in any subject where the origin of the genus or species was somewhere else. Maybe has nothing to do with Braz Rosewood. Seems to me there may be no dispute here. |
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