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Location: South of most, North of few | Somebody screwed up me thinks. The label says "contour bowl" and I don't believe the 1680 had that. At least not mine or any other one I've seen. In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck) it's on upside down... :eek:
Oh, and rest assured, it should go for well over the opening bid, unless THE END is that near. |
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| In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck ) it's on upside down...
In which picture do you see the neck bracing? I'm not seeing it. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck) it's on upside down... :eek:
It's in the correct orientation relative to the neck. It should rad "right side up" as you look at someone playing the guitar right handed. The bowl webbing is "below" the label, which it correctly is in the photo.
Nice guitar, hope someone here gets it.
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Location: South of most, North of few | Correct Dave, I forgot they did put them under the soundholes and I was going by mine that has the label in the center of the bowl (like a center sound hole model) rather than under the eppies. A nice move by the factory as everyone complained about seeing the label through the soundholes. But still, a contour bowl?? Is that right? I thought all 1680's had a deep standard bowl. |
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Location: Germany | These guitars still have a deep-standard-handlaid-bowl. They did use the wrong label. My 1680 has also the wrong label. Anyway it's my best sounding Adamas ever! I also love my old 1687, but the 1680 is blowing her down. The 1680 is also a great guitar for playing without Picks and Pleks. The sound comes out loud and clear. Killerguitar!!! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Uh, I think the bowl is lynacord, not hand laid glass. Agreed, the 1680 is the best Adamas I've owned or played. |
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Location: Germany | Hand laid cloth type for sure. Press your finger hard against the bowl - it will show a hollow. This is not possible with the standard lyracord-bowls.
Thats one reason why thess guitars are a bit more expensive than the UT's for example. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Sorry to disagree Ralph, but I believe, (and I could be wrong here) the glass bowls don't require the "web" bracing around the neck attachment area like the plastic ones do. You could press all you wanted with your finger on a fiberglass bowl and the only thing you would get is a sore finger. If you will notice, the 1680 is VERY light compared to say a 1537 which does have a glass bowl. Even my Josh White RI, which does have a fiberglass bowl, is heavier than the 1680, and that's without electronics. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think the fiberglass bowl will have a "solid neck block" type of attachment, actually made of wood. The plastic bowl has the molded in type of "web" braces for the neck attachment. The 08 Collector is a good example of a fiberglass bowl and solid neck block. The U681 is a good example of a plastic bowl and web attachment. I've never seen a 1680 in person, but if it's got the web attachment, then it's a plastic bowl. I don't know how you'd form those web struts in a fiberglass press. |
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Location: SoCal | A lot of the weight that T.J. talks about in the 1537 is from the K-bar neck, not the bowl, as well as the electronics vs. acoustic only. I'm not certain that you can tell the weight of the bowl when the other variables are in play (could be wrong tho')..... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Just received a reply from John Budny, and he confirmed. The 1680 is a plastic bowl. I know the 1537 is a heavier guitar because of the neck and the monster electronics in it, but here's a bit of fact. A while ago a friend asked about the weight of the 1537, so I weighed the 1537 with the two knob electronics, glass bowl, etc... and then weighed the 1681 Adamas with the old OP24, glass bowl etc... and they actually weighed the same to the ounce.
The 1680 has the VIP electronics in it and is MUCH lighter. Kind of feels like a 47 RI to be honest. My Josh White and Balladeer (both reissues with no electronics) are much heavier than the 1680, and I attribute that to the bowl. I've done extensive work with fiberglass, and a hand laid cloth bowl would weigh more than a molded plastic one would. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's one sure fire way to tell. The plastic bowls are just black molded plastic. But the fiberglass bowls are actually white/powderblue color and painted black. Take a little paint stripper and rub the inside of a fiberglass bowl and you'll see what I mean. You can also tell by unscrewing the output jack and pop it out (in). The jack hole in the plastic bowl looks like (um) a hole drilled in plastic. On a fiberglass bowl the hole is more ragged and the bowl looks thicker. In some cases you can even see the fibers in the cut.
Anyway, all of this is really just like counting pubic hairs. Who cares. The 1680 is a stunning guitar. Based on reports owners say it sounds like a U681 on steroids, which must be absolutely incredible. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | What Gallerinski said!
My 1680 is the best sounding guitar I've ever played and the neck is to die for! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This is a fiberglass bowl and wooden neck block ...
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Location: SoCal | Cool. Never seen a pic like that. You known, the only way to do a neck reset with the fiberglass bowls is to do a "bowl bend" where the bowl is heated up and then bent to the proper angle. Not many people know how to do that properly.
With the plastic bowls, you can't do that and I'm not certain is a neck reset is possible...... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
With the plastic bowls, you can't do that and I'm not certain is a neck reset is possible...... Most of the plastic bowls have bolted on necks. I think you just shim it. |
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Location: Central Ohio | I plan on owning this guitar. We'll see how it goes. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Good luck - there wasn't many made... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | John said between 75 and 100. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | That's not too many eh especially as once you've bought one you're not likely to part with it. ;) |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I agree...hand's down the best-sounding Ovation I've ever played, and by far the sweetest neck. It's even man-sized... ;) |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | What would make this sound better than a Ute? Are they not basically the same configuration? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 12 fret vs 14 fret and I think the bowl composition might be different.
I played a UTE and a 1680 side by side and didn't really hear any major difference in sound but obviously some people can. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | The UTE and the 1680 are both 12 fret, 1 3/4 nut slotheads with a plastic bowl. The differences are: The 1680 has a one piece walnut neck, UTE has a 5 piece "skunk stripe" neck. The UTE has the usual "manhole cover" hatch in the bowl, the 1680 does not. The UTE has multi wood eppies, the 1680 has walnut only. The UTE has a textured top, the 1680 has a cross weave top. The UTE's top is bonded to the bowl while the 1680's top has the Adamas suspension ring. (I think that and the cross weave top is where the sound difference comes in) The UTE comes standard with the OP pro while the 1680 comes with the VIP preamp. Let's see, did I forget anything...Ah yes, the 1680 has a much more expensive look to it and... it DOES sound better. :D |
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| Iffy's bringing his 1680 to G8Bowl, now if Beggin' brings his UTE we can compare directly. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | If it helps the 1680 looks nicer ;)
And the walnut/ebony neck is rather awesome. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I keep hearing how superior this model is yet nobody had jumped on it and bid yet.
At that price it is a no brainer.... |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by stephent28:
had jumped on it and bid yet. Patience, grasshopper... ;) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | the reason I mention it is because "IF" I was interested, I would have already contacted the seller and reasoned with him that since no one had bid on it, it might go unsold.....so I would do him a favor and negotiate an offline price and buy it.
Suddenly the auction shows that the item is no longer available for sale..........
Then I would sit back and listen to the gnashing of teeth of all the clever bidders who were gonna wait until the last possible moment to show their interest. That's why when I have a true interest in buying a piece on ebay, I will always throw in a token bid just so that the seller knows there is interest in his item.
I know it works.....Noah and I have done it many times. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by stephent28:
the reason I mention it is because "IF" I was interested, I would have already contacted the seller and reasoned with him that since no one had bid on it, it might go unsold.....so I would do him a favor and negotiate an offline price and buy it. You mean I'm not the only one who does stuff like that?! :eek: I'm shocked and dismayed! :rolleyes: |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | bunch of no good thieves! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Steady, I want a backup, that's all. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Dweez, your mailbox is full... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | No longer... |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | I know this is shallow but I'd love to have this guitar but know I can't afford it. So I placed a bid on Ebay just so I could "winning", if only for a little bit of time. So for right now, I'm Top Dog for this guitar! Probably the closest I'll ever get to one of these beauties.
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Location: Central Ohio | Originally posted by stellarjim:
I know this is shallow but I'd love to have this guitar but know I can't afford it. So I placed a bid on Ebay just so I could "winning", if only for a little bit of time. So for right now, I'm Top Dog for this guitar! Probably the closest I'll ever get to one of these beauties.
Jim Yes it is shallow:) And it's causing my bids to go up. But I'm about capped out now. |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | Sorry bout that Shughes. My brief sniff of 1680 ownership only lasted about a half hour. I'm toast. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Its outta my reach now! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Still way on the cheap side. If this doesn't go for at least 1600.00, you will know THE END is near. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Well it is at least 2nd hand and an older model 1680 so it wouldn't freak me out if it went for that.
Of course how the hell do you get inside the 1680 if you need to work on anything? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Through the preamp hole. Once you remove the can, all you need to find is someone with small hands. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Righto - man that's a great guitar!
I seem to switch between the 07C and 1680 these days. A great combo. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I try to rotate through all of mine at least once a week. Music and I came to a mutual agreement that we both missed our guitars, so the Viper is going back his way and the 1681 is coming back to Fl to bask in the sun. I guess it will find it's way back in the rotation soon. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Well, for me it's come down to a matter of sheer economics...and quality over quantity. I'm putting almost 5K into my custom (which is due by the end of this month), and after some losses I've had to cut back from my high point of 14 acoustics to just 2, plus 2 electrics, a mando, a traveler, and a uke.
The 1680 and 08C are by far my favorite Adamas models ever, and if life's situations were at all different I would SO be pulling the trigger on this one. And NOT for a "rotation"...maybe. :D |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Well, it went for the bargain price of 1346.27. Probably shouldn't have had it end during the playoffs... :rolleyes: Anybody here get it? |
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Location: Central Ohio | Victory is mine! Now if the Titans can pull this off a perfect evening! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Congrats! that is a hell of a buy! |
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Location: big island | congratulations! perhaps it will be one heaven of a buy. i was watching that auction with wishful thinking. hope ya' love it. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Titans lost. Turnovers and penalty's. :(
At least you got a great guitar. :D |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Definite congrats on the guitar...now I will go sulk in my envy... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Welcome to the exclusive 1680 club! |
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Location: Central Ohio | Thanks guys. I can't wait to get this guitar. |
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Location: Portland, OR | Wow, that was a deal!! I didn't believe it would go for under $1500, so never bothered with the auction. I ended up buying a new 1680 a few days ago from an ebay store for $1900 w/ free shipping (using the "Best offer" option), which I WAS pretty psyched about!!! Oh well, I'm still psyched, and can't wait to get this guitar either. Congrats on the great buy again! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Hey let's not worry about a few $. Just think of the immense enjoyment and tonal goodness that will come of these guitars over the years. |
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Location: Central Ohio | I think I made an offer on the same guitar. The guy told me he would take $1925 shipped. Then he pulled the counteroffer page. I guess it worked out better for me:) Now I'll have to learn to play better to justify the fine axe: |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Thats the beauty of a great guitar - you HAVE to play it!
I managed to source mine for $1750 new inclusive of shipping! |
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Location: Portland, OR | Wow, lets look at the bright side that we are getting such good buys on really fine guitars! Year and half ago, these things were going for over 3k, gas was on its way to the moon, and people were wiping their rear's with $20's! |
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And the line is moving VERY slowly. |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | Congrats Shughes...a fine price. But if Buyers Remorse (or the law of the wife) sets in, you won't have any trouble getting your $$ back. |
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