Adamas 1 Baritone Red
Northcountry
Posted 2009-01-31 4:26 PM (#295208)
Subject: Adamas 1 Baritone Red
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Letting go one of the nicest guitars ever made. Al ordered this custom Adamas 1 last year for me and I reluctantly am going to let it go.

I tried to load photo's to the new site but this was to much hassle trying to load newer and then older versions of Java to bother with anymore. Just email me and I will send along a photo if your actually interested in buying this.

This Baritone Guitar is an Adamas 1 Cutaway, in the #2 red. Has the new Studio Electronics (which in my opinion are the best Ovation has made to date) Also has the contour body which also is a great inovation and has helped my stage work. I also had Ovation build the neck just 1/16th of an inch wider at the nut to accomdate the larger strings and this guitar is a pleasure to play and admire. The bass is booming and plugged in it can rattle the 15's in the PA system like a bass guitar.

These Baritones are very very rare and I would say this one with the extras I ordered makes it the only one of it's kind. Now It's not cheap, but it is the best Ovation makes and the guy's in the custom shop outdid themselves once again. If you want to own and play the best Ovation Acoustic guitar made this is it.

I am looking for a nice Adamas 12 string cutaway, similiar to the one Vision is selling in another thread. So I would be willing to work out a trade/cash deal for the right guitar. I just can't keep so many super expensive guitars and I will once again be selling a great guitar that I will most likly never be able to afford to buy again. Don't wait if you can afford this, I'd like to see this stay with this group but I have had offers locally already and I do need to sell and I might change my mind alltogether about selling it I have enough time to think about this.

rldecker@frontiernet.net
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alpep
Posted 2009-01-31 7:15 PM (#295209 - in reply to #295208)
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don't do it
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-31 8:08 PM (#295210 - in reply to #295208)
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GAS does make one crazy now and then. Take Al's advice. Don't do it.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-01-31 8:35 PM (#295211 - in reply to #295208)
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Ok, only do it with someone you really care for and respect... pm sent.


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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-31 9:01 PM (#295212 - in reply to #295208)
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How much do you want for it.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-01-31 9:13 PM (#295213 - in reply to #295208)
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Sorry for not posting a price or photo.... Anyone interested please email for details. The economy is the devil in the deal here. I need to sell it but it will not be cheap........ as it is what it is. I did manage to load a good photo of this on the new web site.
If anyone interested is not at all familiar with how much it costs to have a custom made adamas 1 from the factory you might not want to know the price.
Believe me Al I have lost sleep making this decision. You did a hell of a job getting this for me.

Randy
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-31 9:33 PM (#295214 - in reply to #295208)
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You can click it here for better resolution...
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alpep
Posted 2009-02-01 12:08 AM (#295215 - in reply to #295208)
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post a price
if it is too high then you can negotiate.
otherwise I will probably have to close this thread.
I have asked that for sale items have prices
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-01 7:45 AM (#295216 - in reply to #295208)
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If it's for sale, then it has a price.

CLICK
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-01 8:23 AM (#295217 - in reply to #295208)
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$4,000 Sorry Al, did not catch the price thing before.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-02-01 8:38 AM (#295218 - in reply to #295208)
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Yikes!
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2009-02-01 9:09 AM (#295219 - in reply to #295208)
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Randy,
does that mean it has a 1 3/4" and not a 1 7/8" nut?
Thanks,

Karl
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-01 9:31 AM (#295220 - in reply to #295208)
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Yes 1 3/4" and it plays like a breeze with the big strings. Beal suggested this to me back when I ordered it and he was right.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-01 9:46 AM (#295221 - in reply to #295208)
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Curious - what gauges of string are you using?
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Waskel
Posted 2009-02-01 10:16 AM (#295222 - in reply to #295208)
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That's what I was wondering, too.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-01 11:33 AM (#295223 - in reply to #295208)
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Sorry I was still sending those Joe Cocker clips around...........
I bought a set of 16's with a 70 top string. They are a coated string. GHS I think. The ones from the factory were fine but a little light gauge for me. Could go even heavy'r the Dave Mathew's stuff is way down there and this guitar can handle more. What a bottom end on this thing. Playing Ohio sounds like the whole band.

Randy
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-01 12:05 PM (#295224 - in reply to #295208)
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That must rumble. Wow ...
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Beal
Posted 2009-02-01 1:07 PM (#295225 - in reply to #295208)
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Great guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-02-01 1:07 PM (#295226 - in reply to #295208)
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This one is probably a real cannon. I know my and Beals 2080D's are both sonic monsters and my 12 string version is like a mini-earthquake.

Since the factory may or may not ever make these again, this might be one of the last Adamas long necks ever made.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-01 4:06 PM (#295227 - in reply to #295208)
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Thanks Arthur for pulling the photo from the new site for me to use here. Pretty crafty for an Old Guy............

Randy :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-09 8:45 AM (#295228 - in reply to #295208)
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This is still for sale, I did have another offer recently.
I am also still in need of a good Ovation 12 string and will take this in partial trade to help with the cost.
But these are as rare as they come and I do not plan to negotiate the price very much.
Thanks for the interest guy's, this does not belong on Ebay.

Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-14 12:58 PM (#295229 - in reply to #295208)
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Still available.
Am seriously looking for a good Adamas #1,or #2 I prefer a cutaway, but not needed for the right guitar. So far I have had three offers but with two of them, the 12 strings offered were just way to nice and priced so high it would be more like an even trade. This guitar is certainly one of the most unique Adamas's made, and I would like to see it remain amoungst this group. So if you have a 12 string with a value of (up to &) no more than $1,500 and a good tax return coming this might be the only time you'll ever see one of these up for sale again. ? I will take $3,900 cash.
Many thanks to those who have offered me a trade deal so far. I am glad to see there is some interest. This is a flagship USA custom Adamas and you won't see any more.

Randy
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2009-02-14 7:21 PM (#295230 - in reply to #295208)
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My wish list has become quite short in between but an Adamas long neck is still on it. Too bad your guitar is beyond reach at the moment. This guitar is definitely worth what you want for it. But currently the market for upscale guitars is quite small. Keep it and we talk again a year from now. ;)

Karl
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-14 9:03 PM (#295231 - in reply to #295208)
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Come on lotto numbers!!
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-02-15 10:15 AM (#295232 - in reply to #295208)
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It's out of my league, but I would love to hear it. Do you have any sound clips we could hear, Randy?
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gulfcoast
Posted 2009-02-15 1:53 PM (#295233 - in reply to #295208)
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Out of my league too, but i`d love to hear it also.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-02 8:23 PM (#295234 - in reply to #295208)
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Am going to reduce the price on this to well under what it is worth. Anyone looking for the best Baritone guitar ever made by Ovation...............send along an email.


Thanks.

$3,400
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MWoody
Posted 2009-03-02 9:49 PM (#295235 - in reply to #295208)
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This phrase rings often in my GAS crazed mind: "Bad time no jing"!

Can I trade you for an FD-14, a 1581-5 and a repaired Academy?
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-03 12:06 PM (#295236 - in reply to #295208)
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Hey our last deal worked well for us both and it did fill my guitar needs for the projects I am headlong into now with no cash exchanged. Perfect.
That Hamer is a real nice guitar Mike and the 12 string Elite T (stealth) sounds better than any Elite I have ever owned. But the best part of that deal was the Deacon 12... man I still can't believe how nice that neck is to play. Please keep your eyes open for the early tuners on this one for me Mike. And Thanks again.

I am need of the cash for this one. I might entertain a partial trade? perhaps something interesting I know someone had a real nice double neck Ibanez I thought was pretty interesting. So even though I want cash I am a guitar nut like the rest of you guy's and can be swayed.
So if anyone is in the market for a long neck this might be the only time you'll find one of these for this kind of price. And $3400 is it. Email me and I'll hold it for you with a small deposit as well. Remember this is not just a Baritone, it is the newest one made with all the very best features. Rumor has it; likely the last of it's kind to be made by Ovation. I had some interest before I hope it is still there.

Thanks Randy
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-03 12:27 PM (#295237 - in reply to #295208)
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One of my dream guitars... sigh.
Good luck-
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-10 2:50 AM (#295238 - in reply to #295208)
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I see a lot of trades being offered in here. This is smart if your short on cash and do not want to venture into the lousy guitar market we have right and you both want to retain the value of your guitars on both ends of any deal. I need guitars I can use with the projects I am working on, I would ultimatley like to replace this one of a kind Baritine with a standard neck Adamas 1 of some sort and perhaps you have some other guitar or are willing to part with a little cash to make this happen. This Baritone is the only one of it's kind and to get one as a trade is as rare as the guitar. I hate to let this go as I know I will never be able to replace it and odds of my having the cashto buy it again if it ever gets sold is pretty low. But I have a real need for guitars right now that I will be using all the time and I can capo this Long Neck but right now it is pristine and will have great value to someone in this condiditon. So I hate to begin using it.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-11 4:39 PM (#295239 - in reply to #295208)
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$3,100 cash. I am told my Baritone has lost some value I thought it had due to the fact that is not much more than a used guitar and only valuable to a "limited market" because of it's design and price. Perhaps this is correct. I always thought that this "limited market" was made up of wealthy individuals who are always able to have things like this anytime they wanted. So all things fair, or unfair, this is a good market to be limited to.
Well this is the last of these so I don't care who you are you won't find another like it.
Now..... I have been wrong before but I think the value I have on this great guitar is pretty fair for what it is. I might have been high at $3,700 but not anymore.

I am not working now, and for some time, this is why I find it loosing value.

The same end, different theories.

I can understand my theory better, so I'll go with this one thanks.
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alpep
Posted 2009-03-12 12:08 AM (#295240 - in reply to #295208)
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my dad used to have a theory about value

he said until someone pays you for it the value is zero.

I think about that often
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MWoody
Posted 2009-03-12 8:52 AM (#295241 - in reply to #295208)
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I was a Boy Scout and we took some fairly aggressive 50 and 90 mile hikes. Toward the end of the trip the "value" of toilet paper and canned ham was amazing.

There just isn't a lot of that Cash-Flow going on now and the number of us that are no longer employed or severely cut back is quite noticeable.

It's hard to sell and hard to buy but there are some valuable lessons.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-12 10:30 AM (#295242 - in reply to #295208)
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Well there is a very distinct difference between a "Trade" between two people who each have something the other wants and straight up "Cash" when it comes to "Value"

But what you've both said is quite true.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-03-12 10:52 AM (#295243 - in reply to #295208)
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It's even tougher when the two sides disagree on the perceived value of each others item for trade. Sometimes the crack in the sidewalk becomes a chasm.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-03-12 12:29 PM (#295244 - in reply to #295208)
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-12 2:47 PM (#295245 - in reply to #295208)
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Very difficult when one side quotes, current cash sale values, and mixes them up with trade values. Also when one side seems to dictate what each sides trade $ value is with no flexibility to the others thoughts. Too bad too, we were only about $100-$200 away. That is real close on a $3,000 deal.

Other offers are in the works. I am still hopeful I can find some good stage worthy guitars and equipment I can trade for so I do not have to buy what I need. Anyone who wants this please just check and see if you have some equipment sitting around you do not use. You will not find a custom made Baritone Adamas 1 up for trade again..... me thinks....
Thanks for the interest so far.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-03-12 6:44 PM (#295246 - in reply to #295208)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
You will not find a custom made Baritone Adamas 1 up for trade again.
We will if TJ gets it :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-14 12:29 PM (#295247 - in reply to #295208)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=113480&item=...

God I hate to run this but Cash is king and I'd like to stay above water. The trades were a nice option and I thank everyone for the offers, close or not, I guess this is the way I have to try and go.
Picked a bad week to stop sniffin glue, in trying to sell this guitar now.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-03-14 2:44 PM (#295248 - in reply to #295208)
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Randy, I sure wish I had the cash... and that I was better looking, and younger, and had kissed Lnda Vatkis in Jr. High...

But right now I'd settle for more cash.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-03-15 6:09 PM (#295249 - in reply to #295208)
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Good luck with the auction.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-15 9:31 PM (#295250 - in reply to #295208)
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Saturday not an hour after I listed it a new set of strings (#14's) came in the mail. "BEST SET OF STRINGS I EVER BOUGHT" "apparently worth about $3,000" Since the new strings I and this guitar have become fast friends. Tuned to D it makes a perfect go to 1/2 note detuned guitar for those tough too sing songs....with a quick capo thrown on the first fret. Then with a capo on the second fret is not so bad as a second guitar in standard E tuning. It actually sounds better than my other Custom Adamas 1. It has more sustain and bellowing overall volume. My price on the auction went up to reflect my lack of interest in selling anymore for cash.
The Factory strings must have been #13's they were just too light to detune and sound good. These 14's have the punch I need and the flexability to tune up to the D. The 16's I put on recently were great for super low end but they rendered this guitar almost usless to me as a second stage guitar.
All in all I am very glad I never reached a deal, and I almost did. It would have been a mistake for what this guitar is and the fact that is was made for me from the mothership.
Value has gone up for me. That's my theory and I'm stickin to it.

God I hope I don't get a bid now.........
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stephent28
Posted 2009-03-15 11:52 PM (#295251 - in reply to #295208)
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Good for you! Hope it all works out with a happy ending.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-03-17 5:24 AM (#295252 - in reply to #295208)
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Randy, just cancel the auction if you want to keep it.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-03-17 9:59 AM (#295253 - in reply to #295208)
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I though you might want it Jim.

I could live with letting it go for that amount I guess. I am quite safe I think. Those who have the cash for these things are used to buying very cheap as of late. So at this price it won't sell. Hope it is not bothersome to anyone?

Randy
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