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Location: Phoenix AZ | Well, I guess after 25 years it was inevitable. You guys have been wondering about the delay in the OFC CD, so I might as well tell you what's going on. I've decided to end my marriage.
It was a fairly good marriage, but not perfect. 25 years is a long time and a lot of things changed over the years. Most for the better. But I always held the feeling that even in the best of times there must be something better. Some better way to do this. The end all happened pretty fast, I wasn't really planning on such a life changing moment (who does), but the realizaion just hit that enough is enough. No time is a good time, but now is as good as any. So I took one long gulp and out came the words "that's it, I'm done, it's time for a change".
The actual seperation was rather dramatic, as one might expect. Unfortunately I did not have access to a Trebuchet, so I did the next best thing. Opened the second floor window of the music room and out she went onto the sidewalk below. The explosion of plastic and metal was truely wonderful. Power supply, wires, circuit cards, just shit flying everywhere. After the dust of impact settled I went down with a small sledgehammer and finished off the job in a scene that would have done 'Office Party' proud. Ironically in the end the only recognizable part was the little sticker that says 'Genuine Windows XP'. Fock Em - Microsoft, Dell, IBM, blah, blah the whole much of them can kiss my ass. Registry error THIS, you MFs !!!!
So I marched down to the Apple Store, waded past the line of 125 people in queue to buy iPhones, and I bought the biggest god damn iMac I could find. I don't know all the tech shit but it's got a screen bigger than my TV and a freaking 1TB hard drive, what ever the hell that is. It's loaded up with Logic Pro and an Apogee firewire interface. I haven't got a freaking clue how to use it, but that's OK. The learning is always the most exciting part of any new relationship.
Within 5 minutes of powering it up I made two significant observations, 1) how could I be so stupid for so long, and 2) I will never ever in a million years go back. NEVER.
But now the hard part, I've got to recreate a lot of my old shit on this new platform. I obviously have all the CD submissions, so that's no problem. I was originally tweeking them in SONAR and would burn in PYRO, but the new machine will do fine. My own song was not final mixed, but I have all the wav files and a few midi sequences so I just need to load and recreate that in Logic, should be possible. Email accounts and my various webpage stuff will need to be reworked a bit but that's second priority right now.
Anyway, that's what's going on the last 48 hours of my life. I do have a question and favor to ask ...
If you are a MAC user, and especially if you migrated from long time WIN use, please send me any tips and suggestions. I've checked out a few good websites and I know some members here are into it (Jeff? Clive? Waskel? ....) Please help bring the newbie up to speed.
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Tomorrow, The World!
David,
make full use of Exposé and Spaces -especially while multi-tasking applications or projects. This makes life on your monitor very easy and fast to move though various open windows.
Screen Capture:
simultaneously press Cmd-Shift-3 to capture the entire screen
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | also... in any native application, you can move the cursor over any word and press Ctrl-Cmd-D and the dictionary entry for that word will pop-up.
I also find "Pages" and "Keynote" more elegant and better designed than "Word" or "PowerPoint". |
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You can however use This method . |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | You're "casting pearls before swine" with me, and perhaps many of The Membership. I am content to plod & stumble along The Great Information Highway, in a guzzling, unreliable, & cantankerous vehicle, BUT....I also have a techno-geek "mechanic" who can keep me running, and steered in the right direction.
Tutorials, like Waskel's photo-posting item, is real helpful, too.
I would like to thank, however, all the esteemed members who provide our OFC "added-value" products, goods, & services. Very much appreciated!! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | What's a MAC?
Is that 6 or 12 strings?
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Dave, welcome to the fold. Once you go Mac you can't go back.
If you find some app that you can only run under windows, grab a copy of VMware Fusion and run it in a virtual machine. It's not at all complicated.
And as I said on the Other Side, SafariBlock is your friend.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thank Goodness: that's a type of marriage counseling I don't do...but I am planning on making the change myself this coming year! |
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Location: Texas | good riddance, dave!
welcome to the Mac universe!
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Location: 6 String Ranch | not searching before asking the question.
Man I'm glad that never happens here.
By the way, what are the best strings to use on my guitar? |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
not searching before asking the question.
Man I'm glad that never happens here.
By the way, what are the best strings to use on my guitar? 10 to 18# Cotton Twine!! :D |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by dvd:
Once you go Mac you can't go back. I know 2 people on this board who went to Mac's, couldn't stand them, and went back to PC's. I've played with my wife's MacMini and it drives me nuts..... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by cliff:
pussy. that's PUassy Cliff... |
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Location: Vermont USA | Well if have to get rid of your throwing her out a second floor window is a good start. But there must be some high rise there, which provide a much better splat to wife ratio. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Paulcc1:
Well if have to get rid of your throwing her out a second floor window is a good start. But there must be some high rise there, which provide a much better splat to wife ratio. ...and this from a pastor........... |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
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Location: Upper Left USA | "Well if have to get rid of your throwing her out a second floor window is a good start. But there must be some high rise there..."
The most damage in AZ occurs when the item goes from the AC environment to the AZ environment.
BTW - your real friends are the ones understand the text message "bring 2 shovels and Bleach". |
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Well if you have to get rid of your wife throwing her out a second floor window is a good start. But there must be some high rise there, which provide a much better splat to wife ratio.
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Well done Dave. Macs are much more faithful. This is evidenced by the fact that they are way less likely to catch a nasty virus. Those Windows tarts get infected all the time then claim "Honest, I didn't interface with any other computers". |
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finally got smart and fixed the operating system so it could run PC Software. You really are insane. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I have no Mac savvy... And my PC does have to be 'disinfected' regularly.
My question is, if you run Windows software on your Mac will that make it susceptible to the same viruses?
Also, if you transfer all your crap from a PC to a Mac, will the viruses and trojans and worms and lice go with it?
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You really are insane.
OUI, the truth often hurts, eh Peppe??? |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I've played with my wife's MacMini and it drives me nuts..... I've played with your nuts, but not your wife's MacMini (that's some kind of burger, right?)
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by John B:
Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
What's a MAC?
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I know 2 people on this board who went to Mac's, couldn't stand them, and went back to PC's. I've played with my wife's MacMini and it drives me nuts..... Paul, I say that in jest. I've got enough experience to know there isn't one answer for everybody. I have to say, I was tempted to tweak some of those quotes from the acousticguitar.com forums and see how they flew re: the whole mac vs. pc thing just for fun..
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
My question is, if you run Windows software on your Mac will that make it susceptible to the same viruses?
Also, if you transfer all your crap from a PC to a Mac, will the viruses and trojans and worms and lice go with it?
Windows lives in a separate hard partition on the hard disk. That partition is subject to all the normal viruses that Windows can catch. However (at least in Bootcamp, I don't know about other systems) Windows cannot "see" the rest of the hard disk and therefore shouldn't be able to infect it. You can see the Windows partition from within the Mac environment, so potentially you could drag the virus across, but you'd probably have to be doing something quite unusual and the virus would have to be able to activate under MacOS.
If you transfer stuff from an infected PC to a Mac, you will likely carry a lot of the viruses and trojans etc, but they will be unlikely to be activated on the Mac. i.e. they'll be there, but dormant. Transfer the information back to a PC and whammo! |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
And control-click is like right-click. Dave, if you've got a Mac with a trackpad, go to System Preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse and turn on two things:
- Use two fingers to scroll
- For secondary clicks, place two fingers on the trackpad then click the button
With these on, you can touch the trackpad with your index and middle fingers and then brush up and down to scroll. saves having to move your mouse over to the scrollbars. And with both fingers on the trackpad, your click becomes the right click and you don't need to bother with the Ctrl key.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I didn't start this thread as a pc vs. mac thing. That's got all the same passion and controversy as Taylor vs. Ovation (taylor being the "pc", of course). I just wanted to explain what I'd been up to, why the CD project was a little slow (but coming along now), and that indeed you can teach an old fart new tricks.
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by stephent28:
Best thing about a MAC is that they finally got smart and fixed the operating system so it could run PC Software. Notice how none of the millions of geeks running Windows were ever smart enough to do the opposite? Just shows that Mac users are smarter. :D |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I wish I was there to see your relationship hit the pavement Dave. You should've filmed it and posted it 'over there'.
Why they call it "Windows"
Good move. No shortage of Mac support here for you. Maybe we should start a group 'over there'.
Yeah, some people try a Mac and give up and go back to PC. Some.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by The Artist (FKA Richard ):
Originally posted by stephent28:
Best thing about a MAC is that they finally got smart and fixed the operating system so it could run PC Software. Notice how none of the millions of geeks running Windows were ever smart enough to do the opposite? Just shows that Mac users are smarter. :D |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I didn't start this thread as a pc vs. mac thing. That's got all the same passion and controversy as Taylor vs. Ovation (taylor being the "pc", of course). Yeah, but at least that controversy is only a one-on-one fair fight, PC vs. Mac...
With Guitars, it's Ovation vs. Everybody Else.
[Personally, I just wanted alittle ed-yu-ma-ka-shun in case I ever get a lead on a cheap Mac :p ] |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Mac is the Ovation of computers.
(a) More plastic
(b) curvier
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Location: Wichita, KS | Congratulations Dave. Like a "real" divorce, you may experience some pain at first, but it life just keeps getting better and better.
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Perhaps the local college has a remedial computer course you can attend.
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Location: south east Michigan | Sounds like a case of "Change just for the sake of change" to me.
As a general philosophy, I find that the world inflicts just about as much change in my life as I care to have. Now-a-days there's just way to many choices & decisions to make. So until they don't make what fills my needs, I'll most likely be driving a Chevy and strumming an Ovation. It's just a couple little things that brings a little sense of stability to it all. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
Dave;
Perhaps the local college has a remedial computer course you can attend.
(with any luck, you can sit next to McCain) ... I didn't know the Oval Office used Mac's
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by cliff:
Dave;
Perhaps the local college has a remedial computer course you can attend.
(with any luck, you can sit next to McCain) Or just claim that you have vast experience with it, always supported it and have the judgment to deal with it (when you have no experience with it, never supported it in the past, and have been on the wrong side of the argument in the past -- like Obama), and sound so good that everybody believes you.... |
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Location: Jet City | Good move Dave. You won't be sorry after the initial transition period is over. I have a few "Mac Basics" training guides designed for first timers. I used them back when I sold these things to new converts.
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Location: NJ | WHY IS IT that you AssClowns have such a knee-jerk reaction to "Go Political" with this sh!t??
READ MY POST.
Witko is from Arizona.
Mr. McCain is from Arizona.
Mr. McCain has PUBLICLY admitted to being "Computer Illiterate".
Witko has admitted to "Mac Illiteracy".
THEREIN lies the basis of my jibe.
JesusChrist!!
Grow a Brain and stop being so f@ckin' TOUCHY!! . . . |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by cliff:
WHY IS IT that you AssClowns have such a knee-jerk reaction to "Go Political" with this sh!t??
READ MY POST.
Witko is from Arizona.
Mr. McCain is from Arizona.
Mr. McCain has PUBLICLY admitted to being "Computer Illiterate".
Witko has admitted to "Mac Illiteracy".
THEREIN lies the basis of my jibe.
JesusChrist!!
Grow a Brain and stop being so f@ckin' TOUCHY!! . . . Well, at least he just called you "AssClowns". Of he were REALLY annoyed you would have been "F@ckWits". ;) |
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Location: south east Michigan | In my earlier post the best phrase to express my point was "change for sake of change". Believe me... I pondered the potential political responces to this for a good 60 seconds before I decided to hit the post button.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Brad, believe me I didn't do "CFTSOC". I do three basic things on the computer 1) music, 2) photos, 3) webpage design. For a good 10 years people expert in those areas kept telling me I needed to be using a Mac. But I resisted for a number of reasons. Like clockwork every 2.5 years my PC would be brought to it's knees and require replacing. And every time I would say "yup, I'm gonna buy a Mac", but at the last second I would step back from the edge and invest in another temporary windows solution. I finally hit my limit and just said "screw it, it's now or never". I didn't take the plunge un-advised, or ill-informed, and it was a 2x cost premium over a PC machine. But so far it has worked out wonderfully. Just like with Ovations, I'm not claiming the Mac is the better tool for all situations. But for what I do it's the best choice and I am 100% sure of that.
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I thought you just bought your PC less than 2 years ago, last time I was thru Phoenix? You were buying a Dell at the time. It died already?
Clifford, just havin' fun with ya. As a side note, I was in a recording studio a couple of weeks ago (boy, do I hate the sound of my voice), and the guy who owned the studio had several dedicated PC's with nothing on them but his recording software. He said that anything else on them would just screw them up and that they needed all the dedicated power they could use for that software. But it was interesting that he used PC's instead of Mac's...... |
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Dave, I thought you just bought your PC less than 2 years ago, last time I was thru Phoenix? You were buying a Dell at the time. It died already? Um Paul, it was FIVE years ago you were in Phoneix. And yes I had just installed a new Dell. That was TWO Dell's ago ...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yeah you're right. I was going based on the photo date of you and I playing the Theads. That was the FIRST Dell.
Yeah, you were there for the install of the SECOND Dell, which has now met it's death as well. Actually it still works, plays music beautifully as long as you don't move the mouse at the same time. I've set it up in the other room and am temporarily using it just for webpage design and photoshop while I get those moved over to the Mac.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | A properly setup PC will play AND RECORD music beautifully. Without all the excess CRAP that most people love to load, the PC is extremely stable and versatile.
Plus, there is a ton more software to choose from.
The positive of MACS is that they have one internal structure and one structure only which makes it very easy for numbnuts to use without having any knowledge of the hardware they are using.
Also makes it very simple for software manufacturers to write for it since they know that basically all the models (internals) are essentially the same.
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The Internet? ...about time! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, let me clarify.........
Originally posted by stephent28:
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Actually it only seems like the Macs cost more because you pay for it upfront. Most people I know who got "a great deal" on a PC ended up doing things like adding a video card, more RAM, bigger hard drive, DVD recorder - all of which bring it up to a similar price to a Mac which had it all from the beginning. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Ooo, would hafta disagree there, Mr 10k. In the creative/advertising world, there's a UNIVERSE of difference and I've bought several of each over the past 15 years. Usually in the neighborhood of about $4,000 difference per. Most of that is because of creative software that not everyone needs but, even before software, base machines are typically at least $500 apart.
After dealing with both for years, I still come down on the "it depends what you're doing and what your requirements are" much more so than the money because if it comes down to software requirements you're usually too far down the road to even consider going with the other. The PowerBook has changed that a bit but not completely. YMMV. |
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Location: closely held secret | Weaser's right. As far as hardware goes, I can usually build a PC for around half the cost of a Mac. Ordering one built would be more of course.
But at least one can still build their own PC...
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I was referring to comparably outfitted Laptops. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Damn....hate it when I have to agree with Jeff!
....but only on the laptop issue. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | << queue- David Attenborough narration>>
". . . and thus, a tenuous peace was achieved . . . " |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | StandOTupski,
For about one second after I read your title, my heart stopped--then I realized that since it was you posting things were probably not as I first took them and the world refocused, the sound came back on, and things began to run full speed again.
(Serves me right for going on vacation......)
Just a word of caution, though: please don't phrase things that way--my heart's not as young as it used to be. ;)
I would wish you well with your venture--if I only knew what you were talking about. (Does anyone know if there's a "Tech-Inept Club" anywhere??)
--Karen |
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Location: NJ | ". . For about one second after I read your title, my heart stopped . ."
I had the exact same reaction.
. . . only I was gonna' call up his wife.
(I figured she could take him for a BUNCH!!) |
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Location: SoCal | He got a lot of response. I sent him an email accusing him of being a, well, an upper thigh hole... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Take 'em for a bunch of guitars and a computer!
(Though based on my prior experience, you think your going to divvie up the books and record albums, and somehow it's a lot more complicated) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I never believed he was married anyway. No normal person would put up with him. |
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Location: SoCal | No NORMAL person has been married to him. Julie's a saint..... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | That's what I figured, but I've never seen her, so I kind of suspected she was fictional. I could believe a guy would have this fantastic guitar collection, but it was harder to believe he had a wife that would put up with him. |
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