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Location: Germany | Interesting classical Adamas but pricing seems to be pretty optimistic.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I had a heads up on this guitar...rare but I personally don't like it...and yes, its pricey... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Y'know? 'Suggested Retail Price' (MSRP) is getting to be TOTALLY useless in the guitar world.
If the MSRP is $6999... But nobody pays MSRP.... Ain't that just alittle stoopid? :p |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I can understand why the buyer backed out of the deal. Can you imagine what kind of classical guitar you can buy for that kind of money?
You think wooden folk guitars are expensive? Go look at some classicals. Especially the double tops. WOW. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I'm quite intrigued with the possible sounds out of that beaut. Too bad I'll probably never find out!
Any one here ever play a nylon Adamas? |
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Location: SoCal | I've played an Adamas Country Artist that was built for Glen Campbell. It's not bad and it's a super shallow bowl. But the feeling has always been that the nylon strings don't drive the top the way it needs to be driven. I suspect it's why they never went into production.... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | From what I was told, this is a one off and the first Nylon Adamas...just not ringing bells for me...anyway, I'm selling, not buying... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This was not the first nylon adamas. Maybe the first center hole. There are at least two Adamas I nylons one of which I've played and was unimpressed.
For that kind of money I'd buy two Ramirez H4's. |
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Location: SoCal | Adamas Nylon String Prototype |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Ok, so I was mis-informed...I should have gone to the source...thanks Paul....very cool stuff... |
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Location: Scotland | It's definately not the first nylon Adamas. Apart from the protos mentioned above, at the 07 and 08 winter NAMM shows there was a girl doing the tapping/slapping thing on a custom nylon string Adamas. From memory it was pretty much the same spec as Siglers but with a single epaulette |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Ok, so I was mis-informed...I should have gone to the source...thanks Paul....very cool stuff... Thank Jerome. How he comes up with this great stuff, I don't know..... |
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Location: Germany | I know. He has a bunch of good friends from all quarters of the earth.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | There's a reason why this is a one of a kind. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Beal:
There's a reason why this is a one of a kind. There's the word.... |
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
I know. He has a bunch of good friends from all quarters of the earth.
Karl I know how I'm lucky!!!
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Location: Nashville TN. | OK
why is it duct taped? |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | You would think for that price they would have thrown in some of the caulflower on the end of the headstock. As Dave said ... "Can you imagine what kind of classical guitar you can buy for that kind of money?" ... I'd definitely spend the five G's somewhere else on a real classical. (that is if I had that much to blow on another guitar)
They need to stay out of the classical market unless they're going to get serious about it. Of course it WAS mentioned that this was a "Custom Shop" guitar, so I guess it was important for SOMEBODY. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Here's your $5,000 classical (I'd Bet this one sings)...
Jose Ramirez 1A |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by bvince:
They need to stay out of the classical market unless they're going to get serious about it. Of course it WAS mentioned that this was a "Custom Shop" guitar, so I guess it was important for SOMEBODY. You know, you've missed the entire point of Ovations if you think that. Ovation has always built the "workingman's guitar". They've kept the price low and built an instrument that you can take on the road and know that it's going to perform reliably night after night.
A couple of weeks ago at our Friday night jam, somebody brought a custom built Breedlove. Spectacular guitar regarding appearance and sound. But he had no strap on it because he didn't want to drill a hole in it. And almost everybody was afraid to play it with a belt on for fear of scratching it.
Did my Legend sound as good. No. Was my Legend more fun to play? Yes. Would I take my Legend over his Breedlove? Hell yes.
Same for nylon strings. Are they the best sound? No. Are they a damned good sound? Yes. Would it be my choice for playing out on a regular basis? Hell yes.
If you don't understand that, then you don't understand Ovations...... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Playing without a belt to protect the back of ANY guitar makes sense and is good manners. My wood guitars are all in excellent mint shape but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to take them to a jam and let others play them as long as they showed some common sense. Even with my lower cost Takamines I would expect the borrower to show some degree of respect and be careful but I would encourage them to play it if for no other reason than to try something new.
Overall I totally agree with your statements. |
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Location: Germany | Thanks Paul for your post. That's exactly the point why I love my Adamas guitars (more than the wood-tops I own). You don't have to care, whether you're at home or out, whether it's warm or cold, independent of humidity, whether it's played with a pick or long fingernails. Recently some kids played around with my old Adamas and I had not to worry about. No scratches or whatever. And you get a GREAT sound out of it.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | And Karl let a real hack play his #47 RI for 7 hours recently. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | moody, You're right in what you said about Ovations and their value as a high quality, all around rugged and reliable instrument. If I didn't believe that I wouldn't own them exclusively as my main instruments. I guess if I had $5000 in my hand and went to the factory, I could probably get a great and unique instrument made to what ever specs I could come up with. I have owned a couple of the Ovation Classicals and they definitely could survive a tremendous amount of abuse and still play and sound good. They did not however possess the particular sound quality of a great classical guitar. Just as the unique construction techniques and qualities of a USA Ovation or Adamas make them play and sound great in their own way, the construction techniques and materials used in a fine classical guitar give it a special and unique quality that cannot be duplicated using other materials and construction techniques. They are two different breeds, each appreciated for their unique qualities. Chocolate, strawberry, butter pecan ... all good flavors, but mixed together, they don't taste good at all. |
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Location: So. Cal. | The problem may have been in what a lot of people like to use the term "Classical" guitar when referring to "any" nylon strung acoustic guitar.
There have been a lot of memorable (or famous, whatever) songs (instrumental or vocal) played and heralded by their use of distinctive sound from nylon strung acoustic guitars. I believe Ovation nylon strung guitars are more appropriately associated with this type of music.
Charlie Byrd, John Williams did use Ovation guitar back in the '80s I believe. However, except for the original model, the later ones have narrower neck and 12-fret clear. That maybe a good indication of its more appropriate place in the instrument roster.
To be fair, you cannot possibly compare a high grade classical guitar (starts at around $5000) with any of these less expensive acoustic nylon strung models. But if you compare the likes from Yamaha, Godin, Taylor; Ovation (Viper nylon especially) is way better. Obviously, IMHO that is. |
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Location: SoCal | playadamas? playadamas?
Didn't you used to post here occassionally? You should post a pic of your Adamas nylon string.
Actually, as I read your post the thought that came to mind (and it is part of your point) is that there's a difference between classical guitars and nylon string guitars. My 1773LX, while a nylon string, is not a classical guitar. Never meant to be.... |
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Location: So. Cal. | I would if I had permission from the "ultimate" owner of that Adamas nylon prototype... and you know who I am talking about.
Exactly, nylon string acoustic guitar is not the same as a classical. On the same token, flamenco guitar is not the same as a classical, even though they look almost identical to each other. Completely different beasts. They are all different, and made to serve their particularly intended instrumentalists. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by playadamas:
I would if I had permission from the "ultimate" owner of that Adamas nylon prototype... and you know who I am talking about.
Given.... |
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Location: Germany | Sold for $3k. |
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Custom-Shop classical Adamas