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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Up for grabs is #57 slothead adamas that originally went to Paul McCartney and wings.I have owned 3 slotheads and kept this one because it sounded the best and was in excellent original condition.Also the wideneck was a big factor,i simply love ovation widenecks..This guitars tone was very different from the other slotheads and other adamas' i have played .It has more of that Martin dred. mid punch.The condition of the guitar is excellent condition..It also will come with the original Ovation case it came with,leather-like outer case cover,a copy of "when adamas speaks" book and original owners manual.Also a copy of an Autographed picture of Paul McCarney and wings with adamas guitar and signed by everyone in the band except linda who was very sick at the time.This is a great Historical guitar although i do not have a pic of Paul ever holding or playing the guitar.It was usually one of the guitarist..The asking price is $12,500.00
e-mail or call Sam at 404 409-6242 or samova@comcast.net .Please contact only if you are serious about purchasing the guitar.Not interested in any trades at this time...Thanks,Sam
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Sweet. Never thought I would see this one go on the market.
Good luck Sam and congrats to whoever will be the lucky new owner! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Looks to be in nice shape. Good luck with the sale. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Very tempting but I prefer to stay married!
I'll ask Nancy if she needs a back up! |
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| Interesting. They really gave a right-handed guitar to perhaps the most famous left-handed player in the history of recorded music? He played many RH guitars over the years but flipped the strings. Any idea if that was ever done to this one? If so, the pre-amp would have been on the bottom and the fretboard extension would have been under the bass strings.
Interesting semi-OT: At last report, Sir Paul owns one of only two original '50s LH Les Paul bursts. Anybody else remember who owns the other one? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Wideneck original slothead, yum! But well out of my price range, barring any sudden lottery wins. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Good luck with the sale Sam
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Location: Germany | I would love to see the picture of The Wings or one of the musicians with this guitar. Sam, could you by any chance publish it here for the OFC people?
I collect pictures of popular musicians playing Adamas guitars. So far I've only seen pictures of Denny Laine with a beige slothead and Laurence Juber with a non-slothead 1687-8. Laurence played this standard production model in 1979 during the shootings for the promotion videos of "Back to the egg" (on songs like "Love awake" and "Again And Again And Again"). These videos were later aired on BBC.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Karl, I was thinking the same thing.
Sam it would be great to see the pic.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Interesting how they are all different.
Beautiful Sam!!
Just a very subtle blue burst and no gold fleck around the edge.
#45 is the same blue all over but with the gold fleck fanned around the edge.
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| Wow is right! Best of luck with the sale. |
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Location: Tennessee | Jeez, timing is everything Sam! If it was last year when I pinged you, we'd be working out delivery details. This year, I'm starting a new business and hording all available capital. :( For now, I'll just have to stay with OFC#6. Which isn't all bad. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | I love that!!
No gotts the green |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Stone, i know with the economy as it is right now it's probably not the best time to put this guitar up for sale but i wanted to start advertising it now realizing that it may take a while to sell..I'm in no big hurry and am slightly flexible on the asking price.The bottom line is this is one great guitar with a great history behind it and i also know that the price i sell it for here in the near future will be far lower than what it will sell for in the next 10-20 years..This is Ovations pre war D-45's and we all know what those are fetching now. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
For now, I'll just have to stay with OFC#6. freaking reiss ... ah, never mind |
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Location: Scotland | Hindsight is always 20/20. but I wish I'd bought this guitar when I had the chance almost 30 years ago. It was £800 and I couldn't afford it back then. Now that I can afford the current price, I'm gonna pass, because I would never use it.
Good luck with the sale Sam. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "I would never use it"
Obviously Paul didn't drink the Koolaid like the rest of us.
You could put it in the front window and call it a write-off for advertisement - like Ovation did! :rolleyes:
Well, great discipline there big guy. |
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What are you talking about???
dcwill--"they really gave a right handed guitar to one of the most famous leftys...."
where do you guys get all this gave stuff??
McCartney paid. That's why while you may see a picture you never saw his name in print from the company. He refused to endorse anything so we could use a pic but not his name. And since he woulodn't endorse, he paid, cash money just like everyone else. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by Beal:
McCartney paid. That's why while you may see a picture you never saw his name in print from the company. He refused to endorse anything so we could use a pic but not his name. And since he woulodn't endorse, he paid, cash money just like everyone else. IMHO that's a much better advertisement. If someone actually hands over their own money, THAT is an endorsement. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I think I read it on the internet somewhere... thought it was true. But now I know better. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by MWoody:
"I would never use it"
Obviously Paul didn't drink the Koolaid like the rest of us.
You could put it in the front window and call it a write-off for advertisement - like Ovation did! :rolleyes:
Well, great discipline there big guy. I'd never use it because I have guitars with vastly superior electronics to use onstage when I'm getting paid. (Seriously, have you ever tried to get LOUD and feedback-free with a deep-bowl 2-knobber?) And really for me, acoustic guitars with pickups are just a means to earn money, so the payback on that one doesn't stack up. Acoustically I have a ton of guitars that sound just fine, so I don't need another right now
As for the left-handed thing. This guitar came onto the market from the estate of the late Wings guitarist Jimmy McCulloch, who was right-handed. In the original S/N list the Guitars were allocated to "Wings" not specifically to McCartney. I can recall seeing Denny Laine, McCulloch and Lawrence Juber using various Adamas guitars, but never McCartney. |
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Location: SoCal | But there was a time, Paul, when we were on the trail of an original slothead out here in CA. But I think we were thinking it was less money.
McCartney played his CL's but not an Adamas. And Juber, while he played them, spoke poorly of them later..... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Side note - Talking about Lawrence Juber, he's going to be in town this weekend and, barring any unforeseen duties, I'll be sitting right up front watching the man play. I missed his first trip through a little over a year ago but friends said he was well worth the $25 cover. |
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Location: SoCal | I've seen him twice, once at the Acoustic Cafe at the NAMM show, and once up close and personal at a small venue he played with Preston Reed. He puts on a great show.... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Looking forward to it - should be fun. If I get to meet him, I'll have to tell him about Sam's guitar. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
But there was a time, Paul, when we were on the trail of an original slothead out here in CA. But I think we were thinking it was less money.
Yep, that was 6 years ago, and we were thinking 3 or 4 grand, about what people are spending now on the reissues and limited runs. OK, here's a can of worms I'm gonna open right now. Why spend that kind of dough on an original slothead when there are reissues that were built with the benefit of over 30 years production experience, that are arguably better constructed and absolutely more consistent. It's not as if it's Adirondak and Brazillian, it's just fibreglass and pre-preg. OK the originals have 30-odd years of Mojo and some have artist connections, but so what? in 30 years time the reissues will have their own mojo if they get played. It's like, would I spend $250K on a late 50's Les Paul or $2.5K on a new Hamer? As a player it's gonna be the Hamer. As an investor/collector it's going to be the Gibson. $50K+ on a pre-war Martin or $5K on a new Collings? No contest, Collings. But then I'm a player, and my disposable income is finite. Thing is, right now the investors and collectors don't give a flying f**k about original Adamas Slotheads, it's just another plastic guitar. They'll learn. Maybe
One more thing, and in spite of my points above, $12.5K for Adamas 57, regardless of it's artist provenace is cheap. We all know that if this said Martin on the label it would be 4 times the price at least, and the artist connection could send it significantly higher. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | I am curious, home much would that hace cost back in the day when it new?? |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Pez, I'm just curious, no offense intended... do you type really really fast, or is english your second language? :D Niether I can't see my own mistakes till some time has passed. Its a learning disability akin to dyslexia. I skip words and phrases and reverse
letters and numbers. To me it reads as correct.
Once a week has passed I can then see my mistakes. Basically I was born to give dictation to an adminstrative assistant. Ironically public schools
and Associates at public univeristy no one figured it out. I got into the real expensive hard to get into private college and they figured it out in two weeks. Sent me for test and saw the results and pomptly assigned me a proof reader. :D
No offence taken. |
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Location: SoCal | 33 years ago, that was a lot for a guitar..... |
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Location: SoCal | Still a lot back then. Clifford would know. He was there when his friend bought the guitar and held onto it for 20 years.... |
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| Originally posted by Beal:
dcwill--"they really gave a right handed guitar to one of the most famous leftys...."
where do you guys get all this gave stuff?? From the original post, which said "#57 slothead adamas that originally went to Paul McCartney and wings". "Went to" is not the same as "sold to" or "purchased by". I (apparently incorrectly) inferred that meant the guitar was given to him just as Carter recounts happened with the Stones, Paul Simon, and scores of other top-rank artists back in the day. By comparison, Martin gave a total of 2 guitars to artists (Judy Collins and Tom Paxton, as a thank you for playing at the opening of their new plant) in all the 100+ years before the introduction of their signature model program.
I stand corrected on the acquisition question. And on the L/R paradox, I saw the later post with ownership attribution to the band (and Jimmy McCulloch), which certainly seems very plausible. I appreciate the information and clarifications. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Interesting. Is it always a week? Sometimes a little more or a little less.
never less than 2 or 3 days.
Some days its worse than others. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Given you could buy New AMC Gremlin for $2995 in 1978. Low end car about $14000 now.
So it like spending $9000 to 10,000 today. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by dcwill:
By comparison, Martin gave a total of 2 guitars to artists (Judy Collins and Tom Paxton, as a thank you for playing at the opening of their new plant) in all the 100+ years before the introduction of their signature model program.
Martin, as a company, wasn't 10 years old and trying to crack into the market. By 1976, they were, oh, about 143 years old and fairly well established.... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Didn't Ovation sell more than 1 million guitars
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by PEZ:
Didn't Ovation sell more than 1 million guitars
well before Martin did in 2003?? See? Giving the guitars away to performers, 30 years earlier paid off.... |
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| Originally posted by Gallerinski:
One of my favorite guitars "went" from me to Mike. It certainly didn't go there for free. Well, unlike the Glen Campbell which also "went" from you to someone else, at least you remember that one. The medication must be helping. :p |
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| Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by PEZ:
Didn't Ovation sell more than 1 million guitars
well before Martin did in 2003?? See? Giving the guitars away to performers, 30 years earlier paid off.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by dcwill:
Well, unlike the Glen Campbell which also "went" from you to someone else, at least you remember that one. The medication must be helping. It was a Martin, those are special guitars not disposable like Ovations. You tend to remember where those "went".
We should all apologize to Sam for hijacking his thread, now somebody step up and buy this thing before #42 convinces me he needs a wide neck brother. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | One of my favorite guitars "went" from me to Mike. It certainly didn't go there for free. It is a well loved addition that gets played regularly and is the guitar that I played on "The Guitar" recording...
I know how much Dave liked this guitar and for him to entrust it to me trancends money...but of course that is part of the deal...
Great guitars are more than just a monetary exchange... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by dcwill:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by PEZ:
Didn't Ovation sell more than 1 million guitars
well before Martin did in 2003?? See? Giving the guitars away to performers, 30 years earlier paid off....
1979 Namm show they had 0 orders after day 1.
That Martin Guitar Book by Carter.
If you look at Ovation sales climbing
and see Martin sales falling its obvious were thier buyers went.
1981 Ovation had a 60% market share according to
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yes, Ovation hit 1m before Martin. Having made 700,000 +/- applesaues and Matrix from 78-82 helped pump up the numbers.
Simon and the stones were given guitars, usually the first one or two, and they bought at discount after that, BUT they agreed to sign an endorsement and that we could use their name in advertising. Paul didn't go for that.
The custom Legends he played, Linda wrote the checques for those, they were a suprise gift fot her hubby. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "The custom Legends he played, Linda wrote the checques for those, they were a suprise gift fot her hubby."
The perfect gift for the hubby that has everything! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Wonder what Heather got him. |
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Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Wonder what Heather got him. A Taylor. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Wonder what Heather got him. Served. |
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Location: SoCal | It's not what she got him, it's what she tore him.... |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | The Adamas #57 is on hold and not for sale at this time..Thanks for all the e-mails and comments. |
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FS/ORIGINAL SLOTHEAD ADAMAS # 57 (Wideneck)