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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Hiya folks,
I've listed a lovely 1119-5 Custom Legend on you-know-where. Here's a link since the listing is too new to show in a search yet. Considering how widely prices have ranged recently for CL's, I figured I would let the market dictate the price for this one instead of guessing what it might sell for here. But I'm willing to cancel the auction of an OFC'er wants it. I'm open to reasonable offers.
Otherwise, feel free to bid it up! :D :cool:
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Location: South of most, North of few | Patch, considering the gold label, isn't that a 30th? |
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Location: Bellevue, Washington | Thats a beautiful guitar Patch, if I had the cash I'd be hittin ya up for it! Good luck!!! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by RNickels:
if I had the cash I'd be hittin ya up for it! Pssst RN  < Give him a call... He's been known to be easy...>
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Patch, considering the gold label, isn't that a 30th? Heh heh, if it was a thirtieth, I'd probably be selling one of my other guitars instead. But the serial number dates it to 1976. It's a beauty guitar though. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I made a small mistake in the initial posting here. The guitar is actually an 1119-4 not a -5. for those who don't want to look the codes up, it's a natural top, not a black one.
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Location: Michigan | Funny, I saw that this morning and put it on my watch list. Good luck with the sale, its a beauty! |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | And this one is 
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| Too bad. Having bid on it and in the middle of a private conversation about a purchase with no price even discussed yet, seeing it pulled like this with no opportunity to respond or even finish the conversation is rather disappointing. But that's your call. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I responded to ALL PM's with what I hoped to get in the auction (the same price in each) . Another OFC'er (who was the very first to express interest) made an offer within the range of those responses (and was the first to do so). Hence, I accepted the first reasonable offer from the person who was the first to show interest. I don't think anyone here would do any differently. There were NO requests to hold this guitar, so I didn't.
When it comes to open sales, and you really want the item, hit me (or any seller) with your best shot first. Otherwise YOU take the chance of missing out.
I don't think anyone on this board would have made this "call" any differently.
I'm sorry if anyone feels slighted, and harbor no grudges. But I've worked hard to build a trustful or at least respectable reputation here and elsewhere. If criticism is warranted, I accept it. But it is not warranted in this case.
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| I was going to let this drop but now feel compelled to make my point more clearly.
I absolutely agree that the first responder should get first consideration. I wish you would have mentioned that previous offer in your long PM in which you asked questions of me. I presumed you would have at least waited a reasonable time for a response, which I provided as soon as I was able (about 12 hours, from late last night to this morning). Or, if you wanted to accept the first offer, you could have done so without leading me on and then replied to my interest by simply stating "it's already sold on a previous offer". To start an auction, allow bids to be placed, engage a disclosed bidder in a conversation about the item, and then cancel bids to sell it to a back channel offer received *before* you engaged in the conversation with me is not cool and is, in the general sense, a practice disrespectful to buyers/bidders which is a small part of what degrades ebay.
If a seller wants to take private offers back channel, then he should certainly do so. "Best offer" is really just a private auction run out of sight of the public. If a seller really wants to discover the current market price from a broad base of bidders, he should do that instead and list it on ebay. He can even run an auction which gives bidders the opportunity to grab it quickly at a price he likes while still allowing it to be evaluated by the marketplace (reserve auction with BIN). But to do both at the same time communicates to people that ebay is just a place for sellers to expose themselves and that they have no obligation to treat bidders with the same respect they expect from buyers. Not paying is an ebay crime, but pulling an item which has legitimate bids to sell privately at a better price is considered "fair play". A buyer can't withdraw his bids because he found a better item to buy instead.
It's not about the guitar - there are plenty more. It's about how sellers conduct themselves, and I respectfully disagree that this was handled properly. IMO, you should not have started an auction if you were serious and active about selling it back channel at the same time, and you should have either accepted your first offer, told me you had a previous offer and would get back to me after that was resolved, or completed our conversation before deciding which way to go. It is your guitar and it is (was) your choice, but sellers need to remember that buyers have choices too and deserve reasonably respectful treatment. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This might be a good one to resolve via PM. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | SIGH....
I answered three sets of questions yesterday and this morning. The first offer (second set of questions) was a little too low to accept. The first set of questions was answered yesterday without further reply until AFTER I responded to the third set of questions (YOURS) this morning. After answering your questions (in which I mentioned what I was willing to end the auction for just as I had to the other two), I received the offer from the first person.
I had no way of knowing if any of the three interested parties would follow through. The eBay ad CLEARLY stated that the guitar was for sale elsewhere, and I reserved the right to end the auction early. If an OFC'er wants me to hold a guitar in good faith, I will consider it and have done it before. But NOT ONE PERSON requested this. As an OFC member you had the same opportunities to make an offer.
I treat everyone on this forum with equal and sincere respect. Someone moved faster than you. It happens. Don't take it out on me. And don't impugn my motives, sincerity, or reputation. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
This might be a good one to resolve via PM. Sorry Dave, you posted just as I did. I don't want to seem like I blew off your advice. Several PM's have already been exchanged, but I couldn't let this thread end with accusations just hanging out there against me. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I figgered. No big deal. |
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Location: Right now? | Yaaah! Again, resistance was futile. I am SO finished ... for now ... ;P |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Congrats Willa! You are going to LOVE this guitar!! |
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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | Even I wanted more info on Patch's Ovation but it's sold to bad it Happen's im gong to P.M. you
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Location: Right now? | Patrick (Patch),
I got it! I got it! PERFECTO! She is over-the-top GORGEOUS, and she SOUNDS great. The pictures couldn't have done her justice! I am VERY happy with this beautiful guitar, and I could not have had my questions/concerns answered better than you did!
While I probably didn't ask all the right questions, and had LOTS of dumb, neurotic questions, you answered ALL of them!
Thanks also for the fast shipment. Isn't it TORTURE when that bix box comes, and it takes you twenty minutes to get it OUT?! The tension builds and then ... AAAAAHHHHHH!!! THANK YOU!!
Here she is in her new home:
http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/photo/photo/show?id=2194223%3APhoto%...
I am so grateful that this guitar was honestly represented and exceeds my expectations! I've wanted one like this for some time, and now I've got 'er! Patch, thank you for a very fair, considerate and conscientious 'deal'. I am thrilled! I hope I'll be on your announcement list when you sell other things to feed your habit, haha!
I got the CL on the same day that I took delivery on the '09C. Thanks to WillS for THAT beauty! The photos don't do HER justice either. The guitar is absolutely gorgeous! Here is a photo of her:
http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/photo/this-sounds-so-pretty/prev?con...
I was/am overwhelmed! I really had a self-indulgent last few weeks, but I have no regrets! Happy, happy, happy! If I could see ya, I'd give ya a great big HUG, probably not something the 'boys' on this forum would do, haha! ... oh, and did I mention that I am VERY HAPPY?
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
If I could see ya, I'd give ya a great big HUG, probably not something the 'boys' on this forum would do You might be surprised with the 'family hugs' these folks are capable of giving! ;)
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Location: SoCal | A braced wood topped deep bowl Legend series guitars are absolutely the cats ass!!! And top it off with all the bling.... wow.
Try mediums on it. They really drive the top for maximum tone (lights are for sissys and extra lights are for hispanic players in San Antonio)..... |
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Location: SoCal | Just stating facts. These are the best center hole O's built. As much as I like Adamii, I prefer the sound of these (stating opinion)..... |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Congratulations! I have always felt that CLs were the most attractive guitars ever made. As an added bonus they're durable too. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Wonderful guitars Willa; Enjoy!
Congrats!
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Ovation Custom Legend 1119 For Sale; EXCELLENT condition!