Much difference in recent Adamas tops?
jim777
Posted 2008-08-06 12:19 PM (#27709)
Subject: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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Is there much of a difference in the sounds of the various Adamas tops, specifically between the W597s and the 1597s? I prefer the look of the CVT W597 to the 1597s, but I don't know if I prefer it $400 worth if the guitars sound the same plugged in or straight acoustic.

Anyone familiar with both? Is there actually a difference that isn't cosmetic?

Thanks!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-08-06 12:37 PM (#27710 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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Get a textured top instead.
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-06 12:45 PM (#27711 - in reply to #27709)
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ditto.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-08-06 1:01 PM (#27712 - in reply to #27709)
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double ditto.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-08-06 1:25 PM (#27713 - in reply to #27709)
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triple ditto
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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-08-06 1:27 PM (#27714 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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I owned a W597, and before buying it played a 1597. To my ears (subjective) there was a world of difference.

The Texture top was more open sounding with huge bass even for a mid bowl depth. The 1597 seemed to be just a tad more defined in the mid-range, but felt a bit muddy there too. I loved my 597 as the action was like an electric and it really was a great performing guitar.

Depending on your budget, you may want to look at the 2080 (unless the looks don't appeal to you) as they are a fantastic guitar, and both Al and I have a used one for sale in the $1500 range. You get the VIP with the 2080 which is either good or bad depending on your view point (see reviews of VIP)
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-08-06 1:34 PM (#27715 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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Originally posted by lanaki:
triple ditto
Yep. No question (for me anyway). I always thought I wanted to end up with a W597 until I heard a Ute and a few other textured tops. It goes without saying that "which is better" is subjective but I would guess (pretty confidently actually) that the textured tops would absolutely bury the non-textured in a poll around here.
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jim777
Posted 2008-08-06 1:43 PM (#27716 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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So, the CVT w597 is the textured top, and the 1597 is the non textured top? Or do you mean the original guitars with the walnut boards by "textured top" guitars?
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lanaki
Posted 2008-08-06 1:56 PM (#27717 - in reply to #27709)
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actually the 597's and 1597's are considered smooth tops. in the w597 you can see the weave but the top is still smooth. it would be better, at least acoustically, to purchase a textured woven top model such as 1581, 1587, 1687, 1680, 2080 or UTE. i used to own a W597 in cobalt color and it was a perfect amped gigging guitar. however, if you desire/require volume acoustically, which i did, the textured topped models are the way to go. check out brainslag's 1687-8 in the for sale section.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-08-06 2:08 PM (#27718 - in reply to #27709)
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With my limited knowledge (I'm Guessing) I would think that the textured tops are more open.
With the W597, you can See the weave through the finish, but the is still alot of finish.

My only comparison is two T's... Any of my regular black T's sound fuller than my Orange Flame T.
The real difference being that the OF has paint and polyvinylwhatevertheyuse.

And if you are gonna go for the gusto, you want the textured weave in reverse-blue-burst anyway. :cool:
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jim777
Posted 2008-08-06 2:41 PM (#27719 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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Ok, Al has a few "textured top" W597's on his site for sale, marked as "for export market". Are THOSE instruments textured top guitars, as in the same tops as a 1587 or 1581?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-08-06 2:46 PM (#27720 - in reply to #27709)
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YES ...sorry, didn't mean to yell.
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-06 3:00 PM (#27721 - in reply to #27709)
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THOSE(if he still has 'em) are GREAT guitars!!
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jim777
Posted 2008-08-06 3:20 PM (#27722 - in reply to #27709)
Subject: Re: Much difference in recent Adamas tops?


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Ah, the dreaded "if he still has them" :D

I sent him an email, so I guess we'll see!
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