Never Say Never ...
bvince
Posted 2009-12-07 12:08 AM (#285289)
Subject: Never Say Never ...



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I thought I'd never give this one up for sale again, but I have other priorities that need to be addressed. I am asking $800 plus shipping. I cannot find one flaw in this guitar and with the deep bowl and cedar top it sounds incredible. It will go to Ebay soon if I don't recieve any interest here. More pics are here on my ning site: 1768C
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-12-07 8:25 AM (#285290 - in reply to #285289)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never ...


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It is a great sounding guitar. Whoever buys this will be very happy. Good luck with the sale.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-07 8:29 AM (#285291 - in reply to #285289)
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... And it has been WELL taken care of. As close to "pristine" condition as any guitar of its age could be while still having the top broken in (opened up). It HAS that "MOJO" woody sound.

Here I go again ... I sure hate getting rid of this one, but I cant have EVERYTHING that I want.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-08 10:51 AM (#285292 - in reply to #285289)
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OK ... If no response by tomorrow it's off to Ebay.
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-10 1:32 AM (#285293 - in reply to #285289)
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Hey Vince!

I am intruiged...So tell me, what is the difference between this guitar and a 1437? Is the sound comparable to a 1537 (my dream guitar) or a 1437? They sure look alike...perhaps different bracing?

I am considering selling my 1657 Deep Bowl AAA w/ A bracing to a friend...would this Elite be a significant upgrade in sound from my 1657?...I'm a bit of a bass fanatic.

Thanks for your unbiased opinion :) (and the opinions of others who care to respond).

Norse(sure is a pretty guitar)man1
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-10 8:52 AM (#285294 - in reply to #285289)
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I am assuming you are refering to a 1547 as I have never heard of a 1437, so I will continue on with that assumption ... I have asked those same questions myself in the past few months. I directed the comparison question to Ovation/Kaman. what I found was the 1768 was not built the same as the 1537/47. As much as I love this particular guitar and it's sound (deep and warm sounding due to the deep bowl and cedar top), the 1537/47 has an additional wood ply in the upper bout for strengthening the top under the eppis. This apparenty resulted in extending the tonal and frequency range of that particular model.(although there doesn't seem to be any documentation stating that it was intended) The 1768 has a different type of reinforcing in the same place, but I haven't figured out what it actually is.(apparently some kind of film or resin) Two other obvious differences between the 1537 and the 1768 is the top wood itself and the fretboards; 1537 used AAA Sitka Spruce whereas THIS guitar has an exceptionally-beautiful CEDAR top, which is quite unique for Ovations, and in my opinion accents the bass and creates an exceptionally warm tone.(I wish they would have produced a Country Artist with a cedar top) Classical guitars utilize these two different type woods to offer two different varieties of tone also, with the cedar being more warmer and the spruce, brighter. The fretboards also differ with the 1537 having a black walnut and the 1768 being rosewood. I don't personally know how that projects to sound quality or sustain.(that might make for a nice discussion topic in itself) Electronics are also completely different (although that makes no difference to me with these models) Anyway, with all that said, this guitar has a very uniquely-warm and deep sound and it also plays very well. I only wish I could own both models, but that is not an option for me.

- It has now gone to Ebay -
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-10 8:53 AM (#285295 - in reply to #285289)
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Nice guitar..best wishes for the sale...
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-10 9:11 AM (#285296 - in reply to #285289)
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Thanks Mike! Best wishes for yours also.
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-10 12:47 PM (#285297 - in reply to #285289)
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Thanks for the description and detail Vince, that was an education...sounds like a great guitar...my 1713 is a cedar top as well, and you are right, the cedar top gives it a very warm tone.

If I sell the 1657, I will definitely track your guitar on the bay.

Thanks again bro.

Norse(and yes, I meant 1537/47 thanks again)man1
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nosajwp
Posted 2009-12-10 9:57 PM (#285298 - in reply to #285289)
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Too bad you aren't up for trades... Good luck.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-12-10 11:08 PM (#285299 - in reply to #285289)
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1537 and 1547 also have walnut binding, which seems to be very rare.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-11 8:25 AM (#285300 - in reply to #285289)
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Mark ... Thanks for mentioning that. That is one of the things I like so much about the 1537. That walnut binding really adds class to the guitar. I wish they would do more of that, but I am told it is very difficult and therefore expensive. (Doesn't do much for seling this one though) I feel like I'm selling a 1537.
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Erniewan
Posted 2009-12-11 9:54 AM (#285301 - in reply to #285289)
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Hey Norsey,

glad to see you still have the 1713. Hope all is well with you and your family.

the 1768 Cedar is a great instrument, and a bit rare in number produced.

Ernie
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-12 2:10 PM (#285302 - in reply to #285289)
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Hey Ernie....good to here from you as well!

Yes, the 1713 gets a work out this time of year...I've never played another guitar that brings christmas carols alive like finger picking them on the 1713...I think it's the cedar top, and of course good hard tension strings. I am trying a set of LaBella Medium Hard Flamenco guitar strings this year...believe me, even med/hard in flamenco strings is high tension.
Anyways, I really like the tone and "pluck"ability of these strings...and the guitar is as georgeous to look at as it is to hear.

Happy Holidays to you Ernie!
Norse(Feliz Navidad)man1
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-14 2:35 PM (#285303 - in reply to #285289)
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Someone here has to jump on this. Only a couple of hours left on the auction. For heavens sake lets not let a "Taylor" person get this.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-14 3:50 PM (#285304 - in reply to #285289)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
For heavens sake lets not let a "Taylor" person get this.
Why not?
Even they desire to own at least one good guitar :rolleyes: :cool: :p
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-21 11:53 AM (#285305 - in reply to #285289)
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Relisted and price dropped to $700 plus shipping.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-27 10:32 AM (#285306 - in reply to #285289)
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Well ... a lot of lookers and askers, but WHAT WAS I THINKING in trying to sell a guitar over the holidays? ... everyone has their money spent on Christmas gifts. I guess I'll just hang on to it until income tax return time and relist.

(Wait a minute! ... Is there still gonna' be such a thing as an income tax return?)
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nosajwp
Posted 2009-12-27 11:21 AM (#285307 - in reply to #285289)
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Wish someone would buy my '05 Collector's so I could buy this!!!
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-12-27 11:36 AM (#285308 - in reply to #285289)
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Nosajwp, I think your best bet would be to list it on ebay with no reserve.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-27 12:59 PM (#285309 - in reply to #285289)
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So far my other guitar has managed to make it in under the radar, so I'm not in a BIG hurry to sell it. Still for sale, but I will hold it for anyone seriously interested. In the mean time, I'm just going to still enjoy playing it.
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