OT-1968 Martin D-28
Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-10 12:52 PM (#285115)
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Nice guitar if you're into these peices. Funny, this guy misspelled Rosewood 3 times in his ad. If you have a collectable guitar you are trying to sell for $3500, wouldn't you try to get the details correct?
1968 Martin
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Beal
Posted 2009-12-10 1:01 PM (#285116 - in reply to #285115)
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sounds like he means Bra$illion rosewood. If that's the case the guitar should be 5 in B+ condition
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-10 1:31 PM (#285117 - in reply to #285115)
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Just across the 'Bay. If anyone needs 'eyeballs', LMK...


bobbo, it's off of St. Pete.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-10 1:31 PM (#285118 - in reply to #285115)
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Martin was still using brazilian in 1968. In 69, they went to EIR. If it's in reasonably good shape, that is a real good price. Where is Treasure Island?
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-10 1:38 PM (#285119 - in reply to #285115)
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Okay Iffy...I want to know how you're responding to a post of bobbo's BEFORE his post even shows up????
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RNickels
Posted 2009-12-10 1:40 PM (#285120 - in reply to #285115)
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They posted at exactly the same time, meaning Iffy was still within his time window to edit his original post.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-10 2:13 PM (#285121 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
... how...


Now ya know what the C stands for in my nomer...

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-12-10 2:36 PM (#285122 - in reply to #285115)
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Martin guitars from the mid 60's to the early 80's were not considered to be great guitars. The bracing was heavy and the construction was only so so. Amazing that they bring so much money now...
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Beal
Posted 2009-12-10 2:43 PM (#285123 - in reply to #285115)
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yes, 60s will be 5-7
50s will be 8-12
40s are higher
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-12-10 2:45 PM (#285124 - in reply to #285115)
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I've got a friend who has an early 50's D28. And it is a WONDERFUL guitar, well worth the big bucks....
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-10 2:46 PM (#285125 - in reply to #285115)
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Actually, thru 1969 they were still pretty nice guitars...yes, construction materials in particular changed but my '69 (this seller is incorrect as the '69 was the last of the Brz RW Martins) was a great playing and sounding instrument. Like most models, some were stellar, some were not noteworthy, and some just sucked....mine was stellar...The Martins of the 1970's were generally not great guitars...they got better and today they are making World Class Guitars again...my OM PB Custom is incredible...
now my '48 D-28...well it's in a class by itself...It's Awesome! (easy Brad) lol
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-10 2:47 PM (#285126 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Martin guitars from the mid 60's to the early 80's were not considered to be great guitars. The bracing was heavy and the construction was only so so. Amazing that they bring so much money now...
Not only that, they used the cheaper Roosewood in them
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-10 2:58 PM (#285127 - in reply to #285115)
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Not only that, they used the cheaper Roosewood in them
In 1970 Martin went to all East Indian Rosewood...the reason was the CITES embargo put on harvesting Brazilian RW in 1965...Martin had used up most of its stockpile of Brazilian by then...so they started using Indian RW which is a fabulous tone wood...just not the Brazilian everyone was used to...I do prefer BRZ over Indian but I'm a guitar snob and perfectionist (who me?)...not a thing wrong w/Indian RW...I have it in my OM and it is fabulous! Also Madagascar RW is fantastic as well but it is in the same boat as Brz now....It is not cheaper, just different...YMMV
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-12-10 3:16 PM (#285128 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
In 1970 Martin went to all East Indian Rosewood...the reason was the CITES embargo put on harvesting Brazilian RW in 1965...Martin had used up most of its stockpile of Brazilian by then...so they started using Indian RW which is a fabulous tone wood...
True, but in 1969 many of the D-28s were made with EIR. 1968 was the last year that D-28s were exclusively Brazilian. By mid-year 1969 all of them were EIR and some were EIR before then ... so if you are looking for brazrosie, be careful with the 69's.

Also, it was actually an embargo by Brazil in the mid 60's that put the brakes on brazilian rosewood getting exported. The CITES amendment regarding brazilian rosewood didn't actually go into effect until the early 90's. All the brazilian rosewood being used today is subject to the CITES regulations.

Just for the sake of accuracy.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-10 3:48 PM (#285129 - in reply to #285115)
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Martin started the change in bracing and materials in 1945.
254497 = Last style 28 guitar made with Brazilian rosewood (late 1969)
254498 = East Indian rosewood introduced (late 1969, a model D-21)
Production Totals for 1969: #241926-#256003 (14077)
(source: CF Martin Co)
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-10 3:51 PM (#285130 - in reply to #285115)
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I think I gotta stop trying to be funny. All my jokes seem to be falling flat these days. (where's Weaser when you need him?)
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Waskel
Posted 2009-12-10 4:10 PM (#285131 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
(where's Weaser when you need him?)
Funny, I've never found an appropriate time to ask that question.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-10 4:29 PM (#285132 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Also Madagascar RW is fantastic as well but it is in the same boat as Brz now....It is not cheaper, just different...YMMV
I personally think Honduran Rosewood is closer to Brazillian and also sounds better than Madagascar.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-12-10 4:58 PM (#285133 - in reply to #285115)
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I think "Raising Arizona" was a much funnier movie than "Gone With the Wind".
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-10 5:08 PM (#285134 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
I think "Raising Arizona" was a much funnier movie than "Gone With the Wind".
Back on topic....
That's only because, in those days, Gable couldn't really cut loose.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-12-10 5:08 PM (#285135 - in reply to #285115)
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And I like chocolate ice cream the best. The only reason vanilla is the biggest seller is because it goes with pie and sundaes and root beer floats. (Can you imagine warm apple pie with mint chocolate chip? EEWW!)
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-12-10 8:22 PM (#285136 - in reply to #285115)
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Sorry, Alison, but a good vanilla beats chocolate anyday. Get your facts straight before posting such drivel.
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james37214
Posted 2009-12-10 11:36 PM (#285137 - in reply to #285115)
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Actally the best Chocolate Ice Cream was made prior to Charlie taking over the factory in 1952 when Willy retired. Willy always said any OOmpa with one eye and half a brain can make vanilla
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-12-11 5:14 AM (#285138 - in reply to #285115)
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My vote goes to "Raising Arizona"
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scooterboy
Posted 2009-12-11 10:30 AM (#285139 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
I think "Raising Arizona" was a much funnier movie than "Gone With the Wind".
I would have to disagree. Raising Arizona was so unfunny, I'd say it was exactly as funny as GWTW.

That movie didn't even get a smile out of me.

Of course art is subjective, so nothing is absolute. :)
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rboothie
Posted 2009-12-11 10:49 AM (#285140 - in reply to #285115)
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My 1969 D-35 took years to really open up but now, I can't imagine a better sounding and more versatile instrument. When played with a DAWG mandolin pick, the sound is is unbelieveably jazzy, when I finger pick I get that whole Jorma Kaukonen vibe going and straight flat picking with a medium tortoise pick is as good as it gets for bluegrass.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-11 1:13 PM (#285141 - in reply to #285115)
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The D-28, S/N 248833, was sold this AM before I could get up to St. Pete this afternoon to check it out for a couple of our members.

Looks as though it was one of the later BRWs.

Sorry, Gents...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-11 1:44 PM (#285142 - in reply to #285115)
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The D-28, S/N 248833, was sold this AM before I could get up to St. Pete this afternoon to check it out for a couple of our members.

Looks as though it was one of the later BRWs.
From CF Martin:
#254497 = Last style 28 guitar made with Brazilian rosewood (late 1969)
#254498 = East Indian rosewood introduced (late 1969, a model D-21)
Therefore S/N 248833 would have been BRZ RW...
And probably sounded great...too bad...
Thanks for trying Iffy...
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-11 5:39 PM (#285143 - in reply to #285115)
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If real Brazilian rosewood guitars are so coveted, why isn't this git more desirable? Apparently only 48 of these were made from a batch of saved B.R. that Alvarez had for a long while. I've played a few high end Alvarez's and they were very nice. I'll bet this thing sings. Supposedly the last one sold on ebay for under a grand!
Brazillian Roosewood guitar
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G8r
Posted 2009-12-11 5:56 PM (#285144 - in reply to #285115)
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Alvarez aren't generally known as high-end guitars, but you're right - Braz/Englemann is a killer combination, and for under $2K it could be a bargain for someone wanting Bra$illion.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-11 6:04 PM (#285145 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by G8r:
for someone wanting Bra$illion.
I'm trying to talk my wife into a brazillion, no luck.
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G8r
Posted 2009-12-11 6:07 PM (#285146 - in reply to #285115)
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mine says "reciprocity" - so much for THAT
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-11 6:09 PM (#285147 - in reply to #285115)
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Yikes....DON"T send pictures!
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-12-11 6:10 PM (#285148 - in reply to #285115)
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Originally posted by G8r:
Alvarez aren't generally known as high-end guitars
the Yairi's are very nice gits.
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