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 Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388
Location: Paris/France | IN A SHOP IN JAPAN!!!
What for a wonderful guitar...
It's probably already too late because the sale is "on hold" but who knows???
It would be a fantastic gift for the beginning of 2010. ;)
J :)
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ex-Elias. |
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Location: Right now? | Wow, how beautiful!
How much are they asking for it in U.S. dollars Jerome? I could not figure it out ...
Very nice indeed!
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970
Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I owned that one for a couple of years...So far i have owned 31,33 and 57 .Now i am slotless |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | repaired neck?
Looks like a couple dowells at the 13th fret. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Looks that way:
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | There is a long thread about the doweled neck someplace way back in the archives. Too lazy to look it up, but if memory serves correctly the topic was gone over in extreme detail. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I thought I rememebered something about a doweled neck. Just wasn't sure if this was the guitar or not.
I am sure one of our spot on historians will find and provide the link. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | "fetch". |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Here is what I found: it may be the same guitar:
Slothead repair |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Those inlays also look white instead of the sparkly gold....plus the strap button.
Looks like a fair amount of potential changes.
Did anybody translate the asking price? |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Here is what I found: it may be the same guitar:
Slothead repair The slothead in that thread is #30.
The one for sale in Japan is #31. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970
Location: Atlanta,Ga. | The inlays were white when i had the guitar back in 1997 maybe 98? I beleive the inlays are original and not changed.The dowels were also there back when i bought it from Bill..I think when Bill bought the guitar he had the service dept. go over the guitar.There is probably a service record on file.My best guess as to why the dowels were there is the heel may have seperated from the neck and it was glued and screwed back together that would have made it necessary to use wood dowels to cover the screw holes?Maybe Bill or Kim can remember.I remeber having 31 and 57 at the same time but liked 57 much better soundwise.31 sounded very good but a bit bright and 57 was much warmer and more balanced.Also the wide fingerboard on 57 appealed to me.
Here is a pic of both in my collection at the same time. 57 on left
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | Several of the originals had the white inlays |
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 Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388
Location: Paris/France | Sold!!!
I don't know how much...
J :) |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Would be interesting to find out!!
AJ |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 245
Location: France | I know, because I asked just to know the price
1 155 000 yens, about 12500 $ |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Samova ... Tell us about that wood top Adamas/Elite model in the middle! What's the story/background???!!!
The only one I've ever seem simular to that is the one at Al's. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | vince, do a search on threads by Sam to learn about the woodtop Adamas.
There is a whole thread with pictures of the build process, etc. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 398
Location: So. Cal. | Originally posted by stephent28:
vince, do a search on threads by Sam to learn about the woodtop Adamas.
There is a whole thread with pictures of the build process, etc. The one in the picture is an original, not the custom job by Sam. |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I checked those posts and remember reading them before, but that was not the roundback that is in the picture. What about this one?? |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | The one Al has is the dreadnaught version if I correctly recall. This one looks like the 1537 with the Adamas I bridge, neck, and headstock.
Drool, Drool! |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 398
Location: So. Cal. | Yes, you are correct. This one is basically an Adamas I with a wood top, two knobs, stereo and mono input jacks. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I want one! |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 398
Location: So. Cal. | You can't have one.... ! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I know ... but I had to at SAY it.
I wonder if the Mothership could take a 1537 and make it into one of those, and what it would cost. Seems like it would just be a neck and a bridge. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15677
Location: SoCal | Originally posted by bvince:
I want one! Why? Different cosmetics than a 1537 and a slightly deeper bowl. Would it make that much difference in the sound? Don't know. Elite's already pretty damned good.
Now Al's Elite dreadnaught is a different animal. The bowl is shaped differently to accommodate a different shaped top. It's definitely got more oommph than a 1537. Al will sell it, but it won't be cheap... |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 398
Location: So. Cal. | Paul,
The sound of this one is completely superior to the 1537's that I have seen (not many, mind you); but it's definitely one of the best there is. I am keeping it... until you die first (otherwise, you get the Adamas nylon proto... as agreed). |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Nothing worth the effort is ever 'cheap'...
Whether we are talking about Al's wood top Adamas or a pre-production slothead, these are amazing guitars, worth far more than they sell for.
When Michael entrusted me with the custodianship of the pre-production #50, I finally realized what Cliff, Michael, Beal, and the few others had been saying.
And, to think that before I joined the OFC, I had never paid more than $650 for a guitar. |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Why? Different cosmetics than a 1537 and a slightly deeper bowl. Would it make that much difference in the sound? Don't know. Elite's already pretty damned good. ...
I don't know. That's why I'm asking all these questions. I know the 1537 is a GREAT guitar and sounds and plays great. That's why I would have to give serious thought and consideration to any idea of changing one. I love the 1537 sound, but I'm also big into the visual appearance of thes instruments. I'va always been mesmerized by the sheer beauty of the Adamas I models. I know ... some people think the "caulflower head" is gaudy, some people feel the same about a lot of abalone, and some people don't care for the look of koa, but I like it all. ... The ole "cake and eat it" philosophy. |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | Personal opinion, you could certainly put an adamas neck and bridge on a 1537. And what you would have would be ... well, an adamas neck and bridge on a 1537. It would probably not alter the sound, yet it would cist you plenty.
Rather than limit yourself, why not just sit down with a clean sheet of paper and build a new guitar from the ground up? And you'd still have your 1537, or could even sell it intact to fund the new one. How about the wooden 1537 style binding WITH abalone trim? Maybe a cutaway?
Just an idea ... |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | The final cost of each option would be the determining factor, and whether-or-not they would want to take it on. I would think that starting from the ground up on a custom Adamas would be unreachable for my pocketbook. That's why I was looking at the other option. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Compared to other builders, I have found the custom shop at Ovation to be very reasonable....even on the low side for what you actually get. |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I am sure you are right about that. I guess it's really a question for Kim or John when talking about the cost differences. 'Just like throwing it out for discussions sake. |
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