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Location: detroit michigan | Hello,
While I don't normally take part in the Ovation Forum nor did I really know this website existed I was encouraged by an Ovation Collector to join and post this. I own and am selling on eBay a factory custom 1975 Ovation Country Artist. It's outfitted like a Custom Legend and is in very nice shape. My friend told me he saw one close to it on the OFC site before, and that many folks may simply want to see the photos in the auction or hear my included stereo audio clip even if they are not in the market for it. The auction number is 180450999762 or you can search 1975 Ovation Country Artist. The auction will begin Wed, Dec. 30th at 11pm EST. and run for 10 days. Thank You and I hope someone who's into Ovation nylon guitars enjoys seeing it. |
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Location: NW Washington State | Completely inappropriate to list it here without a price. You didn't bother to read the large red print at the top of the forum or didn't think it applied to you? Then nobody should trust the accuracy of your description on eBay. 'nuf said.
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Location: SoCal | Don't listen to numbfingers. He's either old and crusty or young and dumb. You posted the auction where there are pics and people can bid, so don't sweat it.
I think that guitar, tho', may redefine "bling". Did Ovation do all the inlay work?
I am curious tho', how can you have a member number of 5000 and not really be aware of the OFC? |
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Location: NW Washington State | I'm old, sometimes crusty, and maybe dumb.
His only other post in 2006 was about selling a guitar. Doesn't take a detective to see that "nor did I really know this website existed" doesn't seem true. Too bad, it could be a nice guitar.
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Location: Lebanon, TN | Looks like the fingerboard edging and all the flowery and flake inlay is an add on later as the color of the inlay is more MoP than Abalone. Cedar top looks lovely though. |
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Location: SoCal | Good luck with your eBay listing.
All those added features make for a nice package.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Because his last post was to drop in and sell us something uniquely described as well. I share Numbster's intuitive resistance. If the only reason to post with us is to sell at least present it with fewer "aires".
85 12 string
Do you know the ownership history on the 1624-4A you are offering?
And yes, that is a little Abalone overload. Probably why I bid on it... |
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Location: SoCal | +1... probably why I bid on it. |
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Location: detroit michigan | Hi,
You get a lot of opinions around here!
To explain I did join but have not logged into the OFC site for a long time, in fact I really had forgotten about the site since I posted an Adamas 12 string here several years ago. That was my last login. In my original post I confused this site with the Ovation Tribute Website. Anyway to clarify some posts, the fingerboard edging is original as are the diamonds and dots on the board. Those are all Abalone while the others are MOP. The Rosette and the top edging are original Abalone also. I bought it from a music store in Texas a number of years ago, and had been researching it ever since with little luck.
I don't want to be confortational on your forum, but for people who want to gripe, and complain, please feel free to just flag or ask the moderator to privately remove the post. I thought the members of your site would be informed and knowledgeable Ovation fans who might want to see soemthing out of the ordinary. As I have no idea how to post photos to your site (and I see someone already did "thanks" I assumed this would be the proper location for the guitar) Of course it benefits me to show the guitar here, but for those not wanting to buy it, I spent several hours taking the photos of it and they benefit from seeing a true custom ordered Ovation as clearly as I could present it.
Thanks. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Your ebay description says the fretboard edge inlays were not original. So are they original or not? |
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Location: detroit michigan | I just re-read my auction....The auction states in two places the fretboard edging is original, and it is. I'm not sure were you saw this? |
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Location: NW Washington State | Maybe he's thinking of this: "The additional neck inlays were added later…"
I'll stop griping when you stop hyping.
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Location: SoCal | I assumed that he was referring to how the custom ordering of the guitar played out.
Your involvement here is welcome at any level.
Some guys just need more fiber in their diet. Don't let them get to you.
I included the link to your auction with the photo. You photos are more then adequate. |
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Location: SoCal | What is the problem here? This is getting ridiculous.
No price...he has a starting bit on an eBay auction with a reserve.
Like the guitar - win the auction, don't like the guitar - don't bid. And, if you are not bidding, stop criticizing - unless it is misinformation or you have specific knowledge of a misrepresentation, you do not have (IMHO) the right to deride a seller's position.
Frankly, I appreciate that he made a posting as I find it interesting.
This is a unique guitar...
And, good pictures and narrative. Heck of a lot better than most. |
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Location: Thailand | And I love her!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
And, if you are not bidding, stop criticizing - unless it is misinformation or you have specific knowledge of a misrepresentation, you do not have (IMHO) the right to deride a seller's position. I am just trying to understand if the neck inlays (ALL OF THEM) are original or not. The ebay text says the following (from KKeller)
“The additional neck inlays were added later…”
I HAVE BID on the guitar and I do not think I am overstepping my bounds in any way, shape or form by asking specific questions.
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Wow, must be the full moon...
Nice git!!! |
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Location: SoCal | Looks like custom legend inlays with additional ones added around them.
I have no problem with this thread. Guy's selling a guitar on ebay and gives us notice. Not posting a price or pics on the board 'cause it's well spelled out on the 'bay. Works for me.... |
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Location: nashville | Were gonna need a bling meter that goes to 11 for this one. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Nice Guitar. I don't have any problem with giving a pass on the formalitiies, but I'm not the moderator either. Glad to see you are still around. Please come back more often and chime in. ... and sell more guitars (: |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Wow, must be the full moon...
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Location: East Tennessee | It's the second one this month. AKA "A Blue Moon". |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Capo Guy:
AKA "A Blue Moon". Yepper! My bad...
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| This guitar was for sale at Guitar Center in Austin earlier this year (2009), and was also offered on the GC website for several weeks.
I had the opportunity to observe and play it, and it is in good shape with the exception of the bridge saddle, which, as pictured in the post, is very low. I did not purchase the guitar because, although it is presently playable, it is on the verge of needing a neck reset.
That being said, it is an attractive guitar for someone who likes a lot of abalone. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Thanks for the 'hands on' Bob.
What do you make of the extra fret board inlays...added after manufacture, I assume? |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by bobfrith:
...on the verge of needing a neck reset.
A neck reset on these guitars is not a big deal if you know upfront. The reset becomes part of your acquisition cost.
Get a ball park figure from the Mothership along with a Return Authorization. You buy the guitar and have the seller send it straight to Mother.
I've done it a few times with great results. |
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Location: SoCal | Bruce, I was under the impression that with that bowl, you couldn't do a neck reset. With the older, fiberglass bowls, you could heat them up and bend them back, and with the bowls with the K-bar forward, you could do a reset, but I don't know that one could be done with this guitar.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think Moody might be right. Are these epoxy dovetail joints? Anyway, yes you can see from the photos that the strings are really close to the top of the bridge. I would just plane down the bridge a little and be done with it. Anyway, Noah is right and all this stuff needs to be taken in to account in the acquisition cost. |
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Location: detroit michigan | I just wanted to comment on the current comments about the neck. This guitar does not in any way need a neck reset. Yes the saddle piece is set low however the action is also very low. I play jazz and require very low action. If you were a picker you would want to raise the action on this guitar to avoid string buzz. From the Ovations I've owned, 2 under saddle shims is too high one shim is normal, and both removed is very low action, and this guitar would conform to that rule. The truss rod is free and is nowhere near max. I put a straight edge to the board when setting the truss rod, as well as then leveling and dressing the frets. To me this guitar has about the best neck set I've seen on a vintage Ovation. That coupled with the fact that nylon strings don't put much force on a neck compared with steel strings and I can't see how you could imply from a picture that a neck set might be needed. It is simply set for low action currently. Thanks. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've been outbid. Oh well. |
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Location: California | And yes, there is a little Abalone overload. |
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Location: Michigan | It is on CL in Detroit if anyone is interested. The price should give you some idea of what the reserve will be.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/msg/1531755858.html |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Ouch. Well out of my reach. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Good luck |
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Location: detroit michigan | WARNING: For anyone on this topic.
I am the seller of this guitar and I DID NOT PUT THIS GUITAR ON CRAIGSLIST! I have no ideas who did but thanks for mentioning it. I just FLAGGED the ad for removal but I have no idea how long the process takes. This just gets better and better with this guitar.
Don't respond or send any money to the person on Craigslist. I hope it will be taken down quickly. Thank You to the person who posted this info, since the ad does not go to my email I would have never known it existed. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | WOW. Good catch.
I bet this stuff goes on all the time. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | hasselhoff,
you should contact the seller and arrange to buy it.
then have the cops show up with the payment. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | It'll never sell with the bass E string wound to the inside of the slothead. tsk, tsk, tsk. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I'd be all over this if it only had the Custom Legend bling and not all of the crazy looking added inlay. |
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Location: Right now? | What would be the purpose or rationale of the person putting it up on Craigs List with the Ebay auction number, which does indeed link to the actual Ebay listing? This makes no sense.
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Location: Corning, NY | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
What would be the purpose or rationale of the person putting it up on Craigs List with the Ebay auction number, which does indeed link to the actual Ebay listing? This makes no sense.
:confused: :rolleyes: :(
Willa Seller agrees to end the auction as soon as he recieves your payment through money order or PayPal to avoid the eBay fees. Then you wonder why the auction doesn't end and where your money went. People fall for it all the time, no matter how stupid it sounds. |
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Location: Right now? | Seller agrees to end the auction as soon as he recieves your payment through money order or PayPal to avoid the eBay fees. Then you wonder why the auction doesn't end and where your money went. People fall for it all the time, no matter how stupid it sounds.
Afortune, I could see a scam with a money order, but with PayPal? Wouldn't they protect your purchase?
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | If you pay with PayPal for a evilBay purchase you are protected by the evilBay/PayPal conglomerate.
If you just send the money to the sellers email address your protection is limited.
Or maybe non-existent. |
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Location: closely held secret | Probably not. Paypal's not likely to go out of their way for someone who got scammed trying to help a seller evade eBay fees... |
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Location: NW Washington State | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
If you pay with PayPal for a evilBay purchase you are protected by the evilBay/PayPal conglomerate. OMA says we're protected by a conglomerate? The world will come to an end as the anarchists rampage through the Park Blocks! :) |
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Location: Corning, NY | Willa,
PayPal can only pull back your money if the seller's account is still there with money in it. If you read some of the "bad deal" threads on other forums, you'll hear that sad story many times. If you pay with a credit card through PayPal, at least you can protect yourself more. The key to the scam is to appear legit and trustworthy (using PayPal) but relying on someone else's reputation. You look at the eBay auction and see a seller with an impeccable feedback rating and then this great seller wants to help you get a great deal if they can avoid the eBay fees. "Even better, if you send the money through PayPal as a gift, you can avoid the PayPal fees, too." You also avoid any possible recourse through PayPal. And of course the real seller has never heard of you. Scammers will also assume the identity of someone on a forum (someone with a sales history but inactive lately) and use their rep to make a few bogus sales. |
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Location: Texas | A couple of things...
He obviously has a price in mind, because he has a reserve. Funny how the Craigslist ad is from the same area. My thought was no one gets what they ask for on Craigslist, so it was a bartering ploy for a local pickup offer, where he wouldn't have to pay ebay fees AND go through the hassle of shipping it. Actually that route is preferable, because the buyer can see, inspect and play the guitar before money exchanges hands. Anyone not local, that buys off craigslist, is an extreme risk taker...and probably a fool. It HAS to be considered a local want ad.
Or it could have been a way to get more folks to bid on the "cheaper" ebay auction. It is a win/win ploy for the seller, imo.
About Paypal. Paying through paypal WITH a paypal credit card is the best protection one can have, using that process. I say this from personal experience. I was scammed using a straight pay (no auction) for about 1400 (no lectures) and when I called the paypal crisis center, they handled it like I had paid through paypal and acted like I was out the $$$...until I reminded them I used the paypal cc and then he said "oh, then you are covered"...and sure enough I was reimbursed.
I will say this. I have done over a thousand transactions through paypal, with about 1% of those being buyer& or seller issues and have yet to get hosed by paypal on either end. They lean a little more to protecting they buyer and that can be frustrating, unless you are the buyer :-)
Cool guitar. One of a kind. You like to see those pop up so you can go...Damn they did good work back then. I actually would like to hear how it sounds against a stock 1624 from around the same time (unplugged). Maybe not in this case, but isn't that what buying any guitar is about...the sound? |
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Location: Right now? | SOLD for $1,500 plus S&H ...
So who's the lucky winner?
C'mon ... give it up!
(And sincere congratulations! I would have loved to have this one!)
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It's me.
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by povation:
Thanks, Willa
It's me.
povation Yup, that was my guess. Congrats Povation! |
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Location: Michigan | 2 nice ones in the last week or so...congrats. Let us know how it is when you get it. |
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Custom Ordered 1975 Country Artist 1624-4 w/Stereo Electronics