Questions About Balladeer 1111
Roundback
Posted 2008-08-10 9:07 AM (#26879)
Subject: Questions About Balladeer 1111


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Some of you experts may know. Did the 1111 from 1981 have the 5 piece neck, or 2 piece? Did the bridge have the screw covers? I just purchased one that has the textured black bowl, no screw covers, 2-piece neck, and chrome tuners with nylon inserts. I have heard that two exact model guitars could have different features, so that's why i'm asking. Heres the pics. Thanks.















Mike
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marenostrum
Posted 2008-08-10 11:14 AM (#26880 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111



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Very nice guitar !!
Congrats
R.
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-10 11:46 AM (#26881 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111



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Only the sunburst bridges are bolted.
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Roundback
Posted 2008-08-10 5:45 PM (#26882 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111


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Strange. Wonder why that is. I was just curious, because the guitar is a 1981 according to the S.N. and is supposed to be in mint condition. That made me a little suspicious, I guess. It is going to be here tomorrow, so I will know more then. I was thinking that the ones that I have seen had the 5 piece neck, but there could have been exceptions. It has the correct ebony board, also.
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Roundback
Posted 2008-08-12 2:36 AM (#26883 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111


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I received the Ovation today, and i'm just amazed with the condition of it. It is in unplayed, brand new shape, and the case still has the bar code on it. I would call it new old stock. According to the S.N., it was built in 1981, and everything looks correct, except the case. It came with light gauge strings on it, and I wanted to try some 13's, so I thought I would take a look inside while I had the strings off. I was surprised to see that this guitar has the A style top bracing pattern. It is clearly marked Model 1111 and Made in Connecticut U.S.A. I have never known of a 1111 having the A bracing pattern. I sent an e-mail to Ovation to see if they could shed some light on it. Any ideas?
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-13 11:44 AM (#26884 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111



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Nice guitar, made in Moosup Ct. Probably is the K-5 bracing Temp was talking about. A newer case but so what, a case is a case and as long as it's good who cares about the vintage.
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PEZ
Posted 2008-08-13 11:51 AM (#26885 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111



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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
Only the sunburst bridges are bolted.
why did the sunburst need bolts and natural not beed them???
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-13 12:11 PM (#26886 - in reply to #26879)
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the stain under the finish caused less adhesion so they were bolted to keep from coming off, always a good idea for the bridge to stay in place.
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Roundback
Posted 2008-08-13 12:32 PM (#26887 - in reply to #26879)
Subject: Re: Questions About Balladeer 1111


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I'm not too concerned about the case. In fact I like the new one as well, if not better than the old brown ones. I'm still in shock from getting this guitar with the new case for 250.00, shipped. It's basically a brand new 1981 1111. I will buy all I can get like this one, and to top it all off, this one sounds about as good as any i've played. I will have to take a closer look at the bracing next string change. What is the difference between the K-5 and the A? I always thought that Balladeers had the modified X.

Mike
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-13 12:49 PM (#26888 - in reply to #26879)
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If I remember right the mod X is the K5 but that might not be correct.

There also was a time when all bridges were bolted so there are some -4s out there with bolts but the stain is the reason for the bolts.
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Roundback
Posted 2008-08-13 1:33 PM (#26889 - in reply to #26879)
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I'm going to take another look at the bracing in mine, but it's not a modified X. I know what that pattern looks like. This one has the braces all running with the grain, just like the Legend models.
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