Rare Adamas 1 on ebay.
AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-23 5:53 PM (#276482)
Subject: Rare Adamas 1 on ebay.


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Hi, I am selling an Adamas 1687-8 on ebay, its a 1979 bought in 1981. The guitar looks like new apart from a coule of tiny nicks the guitar hasn't been used hardly and is very much "new old stock". Its got the wide neck, and the back is different to the others I have seen, the round plate is in the centre near the bottom, and the gold "Adamas by Ovation instruments inc made in USA" is at the top! The price may seem high to Americans but in the UK we pay twice the price for USA guitars, and the reissue 1687 sells for £2,617.
Here. http://www.guitarandampshop.co.uk/acatalog/Adamas_W2097-CBV_CVT_Cob...

This is the guitar I am selling on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280683008319#h...
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-23 8:53 PM (#276483 - in reply to #276482)
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That's the one to have!

If I did not have an original wide neck slothead I would be all over this one!

That's a beauty....good luck with the sale!
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2011-05-24 3:26 AM (#276484 - in reply to #276482)
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Nice guitar! Wonder why the model number is 1687 and not 1689 which was the wide neck version. Good luck with the sale!

Karl
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-25 9:05 AM (#276485 - in reply to #276482)
Subject: Re: Rare Adamas 1 on ebay.


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"Wonder why the model number is 1687 and not 1689 which was the wide neck version."

I only know what I have been told by the original owner, I am selling it for him, I would have had it myself if the neck was not the wide version because I have got child size hands. So it should be 1689 then?
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-25 9:36 AM (#276486 - in reply to #276482)
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I have just looked and the label inside says 1687-8. It is the wide neck version though, its very wide.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-25 2:38 PM (#276487 - in reply to #276482)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-05-26 4:25 PM (#276488 - in reply to #276482)
Subject: Re: Rare Adamas 1 on ebay.


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I have just looked and the label inside says 1687-8. It is the wide neck version though, its very wide.
Beautiful guitar in excellent condition with all of the case candy.

However, in difference to what your friend told you, this is a standard neck width Adamas I 1687-8 made in 1979.
If it were wide neck it would have been labeled a 1689-8.

You might want to revise your eBay auction...
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Bluebird
Posted 2011-05-26 11:40 PM (#276489 - in reply to #276482)
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It may be labeled 1687 but it is obviously a wide-neck 1689.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 7:54 AM (#276490 - in reply to #276482)
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It telling you it is a WIDE NECK, Fact.
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-27 8:34 AM (#276491 - in reply to #276482)
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yeah it looks like a wide one.
Was it always a UK guitar?
Rose Morris, who was the distributor at the time could have switched the neck.
Their main repair guy at the time was Adrian Legg, but I digress....
The coolest thing about the guitar is that you still have the book.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 8:40 AM (#276492 - in reply to #276482)
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From the book.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 8:41 AM (#276493 - in reply to #276482)
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The guitar was purchased from new in the UK.
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-27 8:46 AM (#276494 - in reply to #276482)
Subject: Re: Rare Adamas 1 on ebay.


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Hard to know to which of your multiple for sale posts scattered all over the forum (spam, anyone?) one should respond.

You should know this Beal character is the one who signed your friggin' guitar. Now if you want to keep arguing with the person who ran the company for over 20 years, and whose dad founded the company, please do so and show yourself for a fool.

Oh, and coming onto a fan forum for the sole purpose of accessing a target audience to sell your guitar, and then spamming with multiple posts in violation of Forum rules and arguing belligerently with Forum members who know a helluva lot more about the brand and its history than you do, isn't going to make you a sale. Just sayin'.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2011-05-27 9:28 AM (#276495 - in reply to #276482)
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Easily solved, sticking a frick'n ruler up to the nut and post a picture of it. If it's 1 7/8", end of story...otherwise you're trying to sell something that may have a lower resale value than what being advertised.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 9:33 AM (#276496 - in reply to #276482)
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Ok Tim, I will do that! Thats a good idea.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-05-27 9:54 AM (#276497 - in reply to #276482)
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There's no need, it is definately a wide-neck. Anyone who is familiar with these guitars can see that. The confusion has been caused by an incorrect label or as Bill suggested Rose Morris might have swapped the neck in the UK. The guitar is labeled as a 1687 rather than the correct 1689. Stuff like this happens all the time. I had a 1617 Legend with a foil label embossed with 1117. When a factory is putting out a lot of product, occasional glitches occur.

The issue that members here have taken you to task over, is your insistance that you are correct on a minor detail which actually has nothing to do with the guitar in question.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-05-27 12:29 PM (#276498 - in reply to #276482)
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Yea Tim: Coast Guard to the rescue! ;)
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 3:26 PM (#276499 - in reply to #276482)
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So that makes the guitar unique' in a way?
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-27 4:41 PM (#276500 - in reply to #276482)
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yeah, "unique" . . . like a pair of mismatched socks.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-27 4:49 PM (#276501 - in reply to #276482)
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I always wanted a Gibson with Fender on the headstock.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-05-27 5:20 PM (#276502 - in reply to #276482)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
I always wanted a Gibson with Fender on the headstock.
Now THAT would be unique....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-05-27 5:20 PM (#276503 - in reply to #276482)
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Originally posted by AdamasUK:
So that makes the guitar unique' in a way?
Unique? Not really....
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standing
Posted 2011-05-27 5:54 PM (#276504 - in reply to #276482)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by AdamasUK:
So that makes the guitar unique' in a way?
Unique? Not really....
This thread sure isn't unique…
There's about ten others on the exact same subject…
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-05-27 6:45 PM (#276505 - in reply to #276482)
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Originally posted by AdamasUK:
So that makes the guitar unique' in a way?
Yeah. The same way that tits and a dick makes a Thai ladyboy unique. It's a screw-up that does not make a rare and very cool guitar any more or less valuable.
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povation
Posted 2011-05-27 10:44 PM (#276506 - in reply to #276482)
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Hey man, I'm Thai.
Don't mention or compare like this.
povation
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-28 7:19 AM (#276507 - in reply to #276482)
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The facts are that this guitar looks and sounds amazing, and its hardly ever been played. Obviously they wrote 1687 on the label instead of 1689, so that makes this guitar unique'. The reissues are £2,617. I have reduced the buy it now to £2,199! Its a great guitar, someone is in for a real treat, as I said its not mine, I'm selling it for a pensioner as he does not use computers. I don't know much about using computers myself but I'm struggling to do my best despite the completely uncalled for hostility so good luck to those people who get a kick out of attacking people who are just trying to find the right information and get the best price for a pensioner.

http://www.guitarandampshop.co.uk/acatalog/Adamas_W2097-CBV_CVT_Cob...

New Reissue £2,617.00 GBP = $4,318.57 USD
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-28 7:31 AM (#276508 - in reply to #276482)
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I, for one, hope it sells REAL soon....like today would be good.
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nikon4004
Posted 2011-05-28 8:25 AM (#276509 - in reply to #276482)
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ME too.....The bickering is rediculous. Someone tried to help and you take it as a personal attack. Remember, you came to this site for help....It didn't go looking for oy. YOu can always try your luck on E-Bay
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MWoody
Posted 2011-05-28 11:48 AM (#276510 - in reply to #276482)
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I've been watching from the start and I have to agree with #8728 on this.
That and PT's @#*!% language is unexcusable.

I'm going to take a vacation and hang with my Tacoma Fan Club buddies, they could give us all a few lessons in humility.
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cuthbert
Posted 2011-05-28 4:51 PM (#276511 - in reply to #276482)
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Originally posted by MWoody:
I've been watching from the start and I have to agree with #8728 on this.
That and PT's @#*!% language is unexcusable.

I'm going to take a vacation and hang with my Tacoma Fan Club buddies, they could give us all a few lessons in humility.
Agreed, I always thought that this was a civil place, but some comments here (the ladyboy thing etc...) should have been removed by the moderators.

I'll take a break as well, good luck to the seller, very nice guitar.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-05-28 5:06 PM (#276512 - in reply to #276482)
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I disagree, the constant cross-forum spamming, not to mention the childish belligerence of the original poster should have alerted the mods long before I made that comment.
A few members made incorrect assumptions based on the label, but several others including myself presented facts and were dismissed as if we had some ulterior motive. So, I'm done with this too.
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Slipkid
Posted 2011-05-28 5:27 PM (#276513 - in reply to #276482)
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Many non-mods tried to first, help the guy, and second, let him know when he wasn't presenting himself in a good light. Yet he still continues in the same way.

In My Opinion... Something doesn't smell right. The more he posts the more little red warning flags pop up. For instance... now it is revealed that the person he is selling it for is a poor old "pensioner".
I might buy a guitar from him in a face to face situation only.... maybe.
Again... just my personal opinion.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-05-28 6:18 PM (#276514 - in reply to #276482)
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What Temp and the Kid said.....
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-28 9:14 PM (#276515 - in reply to #276482)
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I have to agree with Moody.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2011-05-29 1:07 AM (#276516 - in reply to #276482)
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I agree, go to eBay. A number of very qualified and trusted members (at least I trust them) have tried to help...and, frankly, there is a high frustration level here.

From Beal to Kim to Paul Temp to Al and many more, I have received invaluable advice and support in my purchases of Adamas and Ovations. My nature is that I don't always agree 100% but I always listen.

I have a number of early Adamas as well as #50 pre-production slothead, OFC I, and reissues. Personnaly, I am not interested in this offering and a guitar that may have had a replacement neck. I agree, too many red flags.

This is a site for those who value the Adamas and Ovation heritage and product. It has been unique from other guitar sites as members share their knowledge allowing all of us to gain. It is not a drop-by to sell a guitar. In addition, as I have bought guitars from a number of other members (Adamas, Ovation, Takamine, and Martin), it is important to always have full disclosure to build a level of trust.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-29 12:00 PM (#276517 - in reply to #276482)
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The first things were started by people as soon as I posted saying about adamasuk and nonsence about suk which isn't even a word. And then saying funny how the ip if from NJ???? Stop being shitty to people, ganging up.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-29 12:03 PM (#276518 - in reply to #276482)
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Something doesn't smell right, what the hell are you on? I am Stefan Price, Mark Knopfler and Robin Trower tribute artist. I'm selling a guitar for someone. I told you it wasn't mine, yes if it had a slimmer neck I would have bought it but its too wide.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-29 12:19 PM (#276519 - in reply to #276482)
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I started a new thread because one person says something like "thats NOT a wide neck" when I know for a fact that it is, I am then thinking people will see that and then might not re visit to see that it IS a wide, and so I made a new thread so they can see, yes some people have helped but others give wrong info which doesn't help, I don't want buyers reading the wrong info. But the photos in the general area were to do with the question in the general area! Someone called me a twat for uploading them there but I was loading them with reference to the questions about the plate on the back etc. The photos DID go in the for sale section ASWELL for advertising it but the ones in general area were for info.
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alpep
Posted 2011-05-29 2:52 PM (#276520 - in reply to #276482)
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you are starting to act like a troll.

please take it easy or you will get a vacation
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Waskel
Posted 2011-05-29 2:59 PM (#276521 - in reply to #276482)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2011-05-29 3:23 PM (#276522 - in reply to #276482)
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FYI.. AdamasUK... a troll is someone who posts in this case extraneous messages in an online community.

So someone said it is something that it isn't. Creating a new topic just confuses the issue rather than correct it in the SAME topic. Also, once you post pictures, you should just "link" to them in other places, not re-post.

Some of us have tried to help. If this continues, you will be bounced.
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-29 4:51 PM (#276523 - in reply to #276482)
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AussieJames
Posted 2011-05-30 5:16 AM (#276524 - in reply to #276482)
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double click!!
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-30 5:28 PM (#276525 - in reply to #276482)
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Hi, I am not going to say anymore about the guitar it apart from that the gentleman I am selling it for has told me the neck wasn't changed because he ORDERED the wide neck with the shop from the factory. He said to me he got it because he thought the extra wood would help the guitar sustain longer and make a better sound.
The neck was an option, and was chosen.

Now please lets put this arguing to bed, I don't like hostility and I certainly wouldn't try and create havoc on purpose, it actually makes me feel sick in my stomach to see it.

Remember that the UK and USA have different cultures, I wouldn't have put adamasuk if I was aware of "suck" its not a word thats used here, we got off on the wrong foot. I appreciate the help and appologise for any annoyance.

Stefan.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2011-05-31 12:52 AM (#276526 - in reply to #276482)
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Thanks Stefan.

I'm going to close this thread. It will not be deleted, and will certainly come up in search if someone is looking.

I think it has run its course...
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