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alpep
Posted 2005-12-15 3:05 PM (#271682)
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Here is your first look at the 06 koa collectors guitar

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Slipkid
Posted 2005-12-15 3:07 PM (#271683 - in reply to #271682)
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That old thing?? Why, I played that guitar months ago! :D
If I can't swing the OFC guitar...maybe this will do.
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-15 3:09 PM (#271684 - in reply to #271682)
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Will they sell me the other prototype??
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-15 3:19 PM (#271685 - in reply to #271682)
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You know, this is a beautiful guitar, but I'm a bit disappointed. Ovation could have put out a really cool and different Collectors, with the 12 fret slothead they showed. Now tell me how, really and truly, this guitar is different than the Collectors they've put out all thru the late 90's to the present? Sure, it's an LX, but basically, it's their regular Elite with a different top.

I think the boat was badly missed here.
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an4340
Posted 2005-12-15 4:05 PM (#271686 - in reply to #271682)
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In terms of design, this one's not a homerun, like the balladeer ... but ... how does it sound?

I mean the '87 collectors, to me doesn't look like anything special, but you pick it up and wow. This has the potential for that wow factor. Only bass side sound ports, and koa top, it will have more more mid range than mahogany but still have that sweetness. Could be great, I'll have to try it.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-12-15 4:07 PM (#271687 - in reply to #271682)
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I see your point Paul.
Perhaps the 12 fret feature is not concidered desireable outside of the fan forums. Even though it a limited edition collectors they still need it to appeal to the masses.
I liked it when I played it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-15 4:09 PM (#271688 - in reply to #271682)
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The 87 was unique at the time. It was considered a "super" Elite with the absloute best of everything.

This is not a bad guitar. It should be quite good. But it could have been so much more.......
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-15 4:13 PM (#271689 - in reply to #271682)
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Will they sell me the other prototype??
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-15 4:17 PM (#271690 - in reply to #271682)
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Sometimes I feel frustrated with corporate Ovation.
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-12-15 4:19 PM (#271691 - in reply to #271682)
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The koa wood grain is beautiful. But, quite frankly, I doesn't make a very good tone wood compared to sitka spruce or cedar. Nice eye candy though.
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-12-15 4:22 PM (#271692 - in reply to #271682)
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The koa wood is beautiful. I don't think the tonal response in koa is as good as sitka spruce or cedar topped guitars.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-12-15 4:26 PM (#271693 - in reply to #271682)
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Will they sell me the other prototype?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-15 4:40 PM (#271694 - in reply to #271682)
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Interesting to see how this one sells. I imagine FRG's are aleady available? Asthetically this does not appeal to me (the trim on the bowling ball holes is god-knows-what fugly) but it may very well sound great. Glad they chose to put the contour bowl on it. Dave
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samova
Posted 2005-12-15 5:07 PM (#271695 - in reply to #271682)
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This sould not be a collectors series! Nothing special here.Just another panalmaster."Damn", ad some maple fingerboard inlays put a couple of snowflake inlays on the bridge.Do akoa vaneer on the headstock..Do something to give this guitar some life.Thank god there is a inlay at the 12th fret to remind the owner that this is a collectors series.
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-15 5:17 PM (#271696 - in reply to #271682)
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this guitar probably has more mass appeal than the other prototype but I have to admit the other guitar was way sexier.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-15 5:30 PM (#271697 - in reply to #271682)
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It's not a panelmeister. Solid koa top. Still doesn't do anything for me.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-15 5:40 PM (#271698 - in reply to #271682)
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Personally, I love the sound of a good Koa wood guitar...I have the Martin D25-K2 (top, sides, bottom). At the time, Martin made a few of the D25-K2's and some with the spruce top.

Doubt if there will be many guitars available to play in the stores. Unfortunately, unless someone has the ability to play it first, some will pass on it since it is not spruce.

Yes, would have been great as a slothead; also, nice wood for the trc but plain - could have said Collectors or something on it.

Beautiful guitar with the Koa top and ? tortoise shell binding.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-15 6:05 PM (#271699 - in reply to #271682)
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yea, this is the one:

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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-12-15 6:05 PM (#271700 - in reply to #271682)
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I'm with Paul M. and samova. Other than the details, it doesn't look like it's really anything special over the koa Celebs at Guitar Center right now. Hope it SOUNDS great.

Roger
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-15 6:27 PM (#271701 - in reply to #271682)
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Is this a solid top or a laminate?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-15 7:04 PM (#271702 - in reply to #271682)
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solid
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an4340
Posted 2005-12-15 7:28 PM (#271703 - in reply to #271682)
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All I can say is that from my experience, either koa solid bodies or topped guitars sound extra special. I've been just lucky I guess.

As for this guitar, I agree the proto type I saw in the pictures looked better. But we don't know what it sounds like, and it should be good.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-15 7:56 PM (#271704 - in reply to #271682)
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If it sounds anything like a nice koa ukulele, it'll be a winner ...
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-15 11:38 PM (#271705 - in reply to #271682)
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2006-FKOA Collector’s Edition
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Ovation’s 2006-FKOA is the latest
addition to the popular Collectors’
series of limited production instruments.
Continuing the tradition of
launching new technological advancements
in this series, the 2006 is the
first production model to feature the
new Ovation VIP preamp. The VIP
represents a significant development
in acoustic guitar amplification. Utilizing
“Virtual Image Processing”, the
VIP System replicates the sound of
great microphones in a great room
and gives players studio-quality performance
to take to the stage, or to
use in home recording.
Other features include a solid AAA
grade figured koa top, inlayed flame
maple sound hole epaulet, lightweight
GS Contour Bowl, and scalloped LX
bracing.
Name: Ovation 2006 Collectors’ Edition
Model: 2006-FKOA
Type: 6-String Acoustic/Electric
Finish: Natural Gloss
Top: Solid Figured Koa
Bracing: LX Scalloped Bracing
Body: Deep Contour
Epaulet: Inlayed Flame Maple
Neck: Cedro
Neck Support: Advanced Neck System

with 2-Way Adjustment Rod
Neck Finish: Gloss Natural
Nut Width: 1 11/16”
Fingerboard: Deluxe Grade Ebony
Fingerboard Inlays: 12th Fret Koa “Collectors” Inlay
Scale Length: 25 ¼”
Bridge: Ebony
Machines: Gold Ovation w/ Pearl Buttons
Pickup: Ovation Original Patented Pickup
Preamp: Ovation VIP System
Case: 9158-0
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schroeder
Posted 2005-12-16 5:04 AM (#271706 - in reply to #271682)
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Leaves me cold - but I don't like koa in any shape or form (not being a uke player).
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-16 6:52 AM (#271707 - in reply to #271682)
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I'm going to hold out for the Coconut Collectors in '07.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-16 12:27 PM (#271708 - in reply to #271682)
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got a feeling that this may be one I get :)
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-12-16 10:40 PM (#271709 - in reply to #271682)
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WHEN?
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muzza
Posted 2005-12-16 11:33 PM (#271710 - in reply to #271682)
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My '05 finally arrived here downunder last week (bought it in June) and its simple elegance is far more attractive and desirable, in my humble [but always correct;-) ] opinion.

I would've probably prefered a single hole job. Each to his (or her) own, I guess.
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bvince
Posted 2005-12-18 8:17 PM (#271711 - in reply to #271682)
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Personally, the koa look doesn't really impress me much.

I wonder why they don't experiment with some different colored bowls to match the various tops? Perhaps dark blue bowl with the cobalt top, or a lighter brown with the wood tops, etc... or even try some different colored binding. A bright white binding tends to take away from a colorful top, sometimes making it look a bit cheaper. IMHO
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bvince
Posted 2005-12-18 8:19 PM (#271712 - in reply to #271682)
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Another thing I think would be cool is if they sold some custom straps ... something in the line of that strap that Susan made for her Elite. I'd pay for one of those!
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Posted 2005-12-18 8:24 PM (#271713 - in reply to #271682)
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I think the 06 collectors is beautiful. I love the look of the koa top and tortoise binding. This is one nice guitar.
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-12-18 8:59 PM (#271714 - in reply to #271682)
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What the heck is 'Cedro'?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-18 9:43 PM (#271715 - in reply to #271682)
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It's what the captain of the Titanic did when he got into the lifeboat ...

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-19 7:07 AM (#271716 - in reply to #271682)
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Cedro-
Also called, "Spanish Cedar". It's a tropical shade tree from Mexico, Central/South America.

Fairly light weight, aromatic...believe it or not, used in closets/trunks to protect clothes.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-20 11:43 AM (#271717 - in reply to #271682)
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I have played at least one specimen of nearly all of the Collectors' Series, and -- as would be expected -- like some better than others. For me, a big part of the fun is getting to try out new models. For that reason, I will reserve my judgement for the time I get to see and play one of these.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-21 10:03 AM (#271718 - in reply to #271682)
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Right now, on ebay, there are several koa topped Celebs, one a round hole and one multi. It's hard to imagine regular buyers, in Guitar Centers, looking at the 06 C on the wall, and not thinking that it's just another Celeb.

I'm really disappointed on this one.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-12-21 10:16 AM (#271719 - in reply to #271682)
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Yeah....I know what you mean.
There are just to few of us that are in the know.
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-12-21 10:19 AM (#271720 - in reply to #271682)
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I've post a poll some weeks ago on the forum in France.
The result is that most of us regrets the first version shown of the 2006 with the slothead and the 12 frets neck!!

We're also disappointed... :(

J :cool:
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Waskel
Posted 2005-12-21 10:20 AM (#271721 - in reply to #271682)
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Ok, it's my fault. I stated which one I would like (12 fret, slothead, different shi.. I mean epauletes) and TWDTT at the Mothership made it opposite on all counts... sorry...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-21 11:06 AM (#271722 - in reply to #271682)
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Ok John. For screwing up like that, in May, the first round's on you.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-22 10:19 AM (#271723 - in reply to #271682)
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This is from the days when the Collectors series meant something new and inovating....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1990-Anniversary-Edtion-Ovation-Guitar-with-cas...

I always thought that these must be one of the ultimate acoustic guitars for electric players.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-23 11:03 AM (#271724 - in reply to #271682)
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I have said on this forum on various occasions in the past that the 1990 Nutmeg top is my favorite of the series in terms of appearance. Hence, my bid appearing on this one. Have at it, friends. I usually expect others to be willing to pay more for it than I am.

Here is the link the seller provided to more pictures:

http://homepage.mac.com/charlescasterline/PhotoAlbum92.html
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texbaz
Posted 2005-12-24 6:08 PM (#271725 - in reply to #271682)
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I always thought the concept behind the Collectors series, was to "separate novelty guitars from truly collectible instruments". Those are the words on the Ovation Collectors series page. I think this one looks bad, I mean whats so special about It. It really has no "O"utstanding visual attributes, but I have not played it so, really that may be the distinguishing characteristic that separates it from my "Novelty" guitar a 2004 1771LX-4.

Maybe they could laser etch Charlie Kaman's signature on the headstock, or maybe a picture of him looking up through the sound holes or Put a replica of Kim and johns eyeballs on the headstock so they can follow with the music or whomever is across from you, I mean make it Special. Make it a Collectible. I wish they would team up with NFL and make Team Guitars now your Talkin. The 2005 Collector should have been more in-line with something like the Custom Elite LX, Those look alot more collectible.

And today I went to the Local GC played one of their Standard Elites and man was it nice I will be ordering a Elite 1778LX-4 after Christmas that will be My 2006 Collector.
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Stephen P
Posted 2006-01-11 8:34 PM (#271726 - in reply to #271682)
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I think it looks really nice...but on the other hand, those Celebs looked really nice...

I'm sure this plays better, but as moody put it, an average customer will probably think it's the same as the celeb they could get for hundreds less.
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Posted 2006-01-11 9:47 PM (#271727 - in reply to #271682)
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Martin has two levels of Eric Clapton 00028's, one for about $3500 and one for $7500. Who knows what the difference is between the two.
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Posted 2006-01-11 9:55 PM (#271728 - in reply to #271682)
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Brazilian Rosewood.
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cliff
Posted 2006-01-11 9:57 PM (#271729 - in reply to #271682)
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The inlay on the $7.5K one was done with what they removed of his septum . . .
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