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Location: SoCal | Bought from Al, now available...only six in the U.S.A.
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seller had paid $999.99, this auction has a BIN at $995.00.
seller also bought the last OFC calendar |
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Location: south east Michigan | Tony means to say "calendar", not "catalog".
I wonder what made him buy 2 Lennon guitars? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I hope someone here picks up this guitar. I'm really loving mine. It's not the prettiest or best sounding guitar in the house, but I REALLY enjoy playing it. I'm hoping some Lennon song writing mojo will rub off on me. yeah, I know keep dreaming. But the amazing thing about these guitars is just how perfect the workmanship is. It's a bargin an $1000. Dave |
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Location: Illinois | He probably bought two because they are not available for retail sale in the US. There's just enough guys out there with the, "Gotta Have It" attitude to create a market. Given the demand is greater than the one he intends to sell, I'd say he bought two with the plan to sell one in order to finance both of them! Viola! A free Ovation.. Not a bad business plan. It worked for Izod, Longeberger, Birkenbock, Ty and Harley Davidson, it should work for Tony Calman! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by TommyK:
I'd say he bought two with the plan to sell one in order to finance both of them! Viola! A free Ovation.. Not a bad business plan. Except that he's selling it for exactly what he paid for it. The real payoff will be what these are worth 25 years from now on the 50th anniversary. At least that's what I'm hoping.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | TommyK, I don't believe that Tony is the seller. |
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Location: NJ | The owner is a good customer from way back. I am not sure why he bought 2 guitars but recently he told me he wanted to sell one. I told him he should not have much trouble doing that.
if you buy the guitar you should not have any problems he is a good guy |
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Location: Keller, TX | Personally, I love mine too. Took it over to some friends house last week. Got all the ooohs and aaahs as I took it out of the case. All agreed it is a beautiful guitar. Much prettier in person that in pictures. Great sound too! |
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Location: Tennessee | Mine plays just like a familiar old friend. It has become my #1 "go-to" guitar when I pull one off the wall. Forgetting about the collectablility, the mojo, or the rarity in the US ... this is still a great guitar for the money. I hope someone here snags it.
The real payoff will be what these are worth 25 years from now on the 50th anniversary. At least that's what I'm hoping. I just hoping I'm still around to find out. |
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Location: Central Florida | Are these actually being marketed by Ovation as "Lennon reissues?" Is there anything on the guitar, or in the papers it comes with, that would designate it as such?
I guess I have a slight issue with the whole marketing angle of this guitar. Let's face it, within the grand scheme of his career, this is not a guitar that is strongly associated with John Lennon.
It just so happens that towards the end of his life someone snapped a few candid pictures of Lennon playing one of these. Years later, one of these photos happens to find it's way onto a CD cover. All of a sudden, the guitar formerly known as the Legend Ltd. is now reincarnated as the John Lennon RI 1651.
I'm not knocking the guitar itself or those that own them. In fact, I'd buy the one on eBay myself if I could afford it right now. But, I'd buy it because I know it's a great guitar. Not because of some contrived Lennon/Beatles tie-in. |
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Location: SoCal | But, I'd buy it because I know it's a great guitar. Not because of some contrived Lennon/Beatles tie-in.
great guitar, great price - IMHO, the only two reasons to buy the guitar. |
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Location: Illinois | Originally posted by Standingovation:
Originally posted by TommyK:
I'd say he bought two with the plan to sell one in order to finance both of them! Viola! A free Ovation.. Not a bad business plan. Except that he's selling it for exactly what he paid for it. The real payoff will be what these are worth 25 years from now on the 50th anniversary. At least that's what I'm hoping.
Dave
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Judging by some of thes posts here I'd say there are at least a dozen that are in this category!
Happy bidding.
There's nothing wrong, immoral or illegal with this business plan. It's been done for years.
I had a couple young lady cousins who lived in the late 1800s who traveled together, without a chaperone (quite the family scandal) to France once a year. They would buy up all the lace they could in France and sew it all into two dresses. They'd put these dresses on and board the ship. Viola! No duty! Ya see, there is duty to be paid on fabric, but not on the finished clothes on your back! When they got back to the US, they would then 'part it out' by selling to fabric shops that would in turn sell bits and pieces to the locals for a splash of fancy to a otherwise plain dress. They made quite a good living this way until thier morality got the better of them and finally settled down and got married as a 'decent' young woman should. (not my personal take on it. But these two were viewed as not so 'nice' girls for galavantin' around the globe without benefit of proper supervision!) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Al - you have mail! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I agree the whole "Lennon" aspect of this guitar is somewhat contrived. It IS a very nice guitar and well worth $1000. HOWEVER, just for me personally I would have never bought it if it was just another $1000. guitar. The appeal to ME had a lot to do with the fact that there were only 100 of them made and only 6 available in the US. It was the collector side of me making the purchase, not the musician side (shut up Cliff). It could have been 100 run reissue of Thunderheads, GP's, whatever ... I probably would have felt the same. I'm not a model number guy and name "Legend Limited" seems a bit contrived as well, so the moniker of "John Lennon Reissue" just seems to have stuck and at least to me that's what this guitar will forever be called, even though there is nothing on the guitar that actually says anything about John Lennon, etc. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Al - you have mail! Is that the sound of Weaser reaching into his pocket?
(for money. :rolleyes: ) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Psshaw, my good friend, psshaw...
It's actually the sound of Weaser reaching into a co-worker's pocket (for money) and making him pull the trigger that he wanted to a couple of months ago, but didn't and has regretted ever since.
He is now in hot pursuit but is not an established eBayer so he's trying to contact said seller to try to work things out.
Now if I can just get him to store it at my place... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm with Tony. I could care less that it is associated in any way with Lennon, except that it identifies the guitar. I must admit that scarcity enhances the value to me and many other people.
I just wish I had the funds. I'm trying to convince myself that this rash of desirable Ovations since Christmas will carry on until my wife's moratorium ends and the bank account is built back up. |
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Location: SoCal | I guess we all have different reasons for buying (or not buying) guitars.
That is reflected by the number of companies making guitars and the number of different models.
Frankly, I don't give "rat's ass" whether he played it 5 minutes or every day. The Legend Limited (A brace, AAA spruce, ebony fretboard, etc.) is a great playing and sounding guitar. This is a reissue of one of the better guitars that Ovation made. Not sure why but the upgraded Legend (Limited) was only made a couple of years. Basically, a Custom Legend without the carving and abalone.
I paid a lot less than the reissues that Ovation came out with (GC 12-str, Josh White, and Balladeer). From what I project, the GC 12-str reissue would be $1,850 or more. In addition, I have 1 of the 6 in the US and mine was a demo, not FRG.
It is nice to have a little history behind the guitars...who played it, any differences of this from the production models (note the different finish which I don't believe was standard, etc.) As well, I enjoy the information on Linda's involvement in the Custom Legend for Paul.
So, bottom line is a great guitar for a great price. Future? Wouldn't doubt if there will be a good resell. Remember, this was for the Japanese market...and sold for about $3,000 USD. Wouldn't be surprised if a Japanese buyer didn't scoop this one up. |
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Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
The Legend Limited (A brace, AAA spruce, ebony fretboard, etc.) is a great playing and sounding guitar. This is a reissue of one of the better guitars that Ovation made. Not sure why but the upgraded Legend (Limited) was only made a couple of years. Basically, a Custom Legend without the carving and abalone. I agree, Tony. The Legend Ltd. was/is a great guitar. I had one for a while (see my gallery), and it's one of those I kinda wish I still had.
Boy, I'd love to pull the trigger on this one, but I just don't have the disposable income to swing it right now... DRAT!! It's a great deal for someone, though. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | When my main guitar was stolen from my motorhome at the beach in 1981, I walked into the local guitar shop and said I wanted the best Ovation he had. I was directed to the 1651 Legend Limited. It still sounds great after 25 years, particularly with the stereo split in the pickup. The nutmeg color grows on you. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Jeff, do you suppose if we keep saying we agree with Tony it will do us any good. If you agree with Dave, people will think you are wierd. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It takes a big man to admit that they actually AGREE with me, yet it's obvious that people quietly follow my suggestions and advice. Is it any coincidence that the stock price of fine guage poly tubing has skyrocketed in the last 6 months??? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Yeah, but you ruined the price of those used catheters we got from my wife's uncle's estate. Everyone thinks that string tubes need to be flexible now.
Speaking of big men, those catheters were too big to fit in the bridge anyway. I'll just have to save them till I need them for something else. |
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Location: SoCal | "Jeff, do you suppose if we keep saying we agree with Tony it will do us any good."
Nope... |
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Location: Central Florida | Huh... I'm sorry guys... What was that? I was away for a while... I just got done painting all my rear access panels... Now, you were saying? :cool: |
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? last chance for Lennon reissue