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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | What the hell...why not.
But before I go on I want it clear that I am not trying to rush Al or the Mothership on this. It will happen when it happens and it will be what it is. Perhaps this will help gauge the current interest in the project.
This time, instead of just listing specification, lets say why we think a certain feature would be nice.
I'll go first.
In no particular order of importance....
1)Slothead...because nothing else says "OFC" like a slothead. Whatever the benefits and drawbacks, it is an OFC icon.
2)Textured Top... because there are a certain 34 or so model guitars out there with them. Heck..the majority of us (myself included) never played a textured top guitar. But the people in the know seem to think it is important so I'll go with that.
3)Contour Bowl... Now I sing the praises of the old deep bowl Ovation as much as anybody. But the engineers at Ovation thought enough of this design to make a change. I don't think they made the change for no reason. In the true Ovation spirit of inovation combined with tradition, I say we go with the new bowl.
4)LX neck features...Mostly for the same reasons listed above. The changes were made for a reason.
5)12-frets to the body...Again, another feature that just screams OFC.
6)Cut-a-way body...This feature might not scream OFC. But it will make a few notes easier to reach both for those that use them and for those who hope to someday get there.
7)Abalone...not in excess, but subtle. I don't think the neck needs to be bound in abalone. Just the right about of bling will be good.
8)Oiled neck...This is almost a toss-up. I did not think I would like an oiled neck but since I got my AD-II I have grown to like it.
9)OP-Studio (VIP) pre-amp....A must. It's the latest thing.
10)Standard width neck....I think it would be easier on the pickers than it would be on the barr cord player to to with the standard neck.
Well there ya go.
Let's beat this horse one more time. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Brad, with all due respect ... Your individual points are fine but the sum of the parts just don't add up. It would look like an old whore in a new dress.
OFC guitar should be the following:
1. Slotted headstock - the new "trim" design like the U681. Faced in Koa.
2. 5 piece neck finished in gloss
3. 1-3/4 wide nut
4. 12 frets to the body
5. Cutaway
6. Contour bowl
7. OP Studio
8. Koa top trimmed in tortoise shell
9. Single blow hole on upper bout trimmed in tortoise
I would buy one TODAY.
Dave |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | aaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | aaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Al, RELAX! Slip is just having brain farts and he was stupid enough to ask ME for an opinion. I never shy away from giving an opinion, remember?
Dave |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Well, for what it's worth...I did try to get the Tru Balance pickup and direct out added into the 1187-247 I ordered.
The mothership came back with a flat no way. The reason; the whole principle of the #47 re-issue was to recreate the original EXACTLY...All I wanted was to do was be able plum it through an amp sometime...Still being told June/July for delivery.
I guess by that time, Al may have something firmer on the OFC...Guess I'll have to keep saving to buy a blue OFC slothead too, just for the a/e option ;)
KOA :rolleyes: far out Dave :D |
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Joined: June 2003 Posts: 1792
Location: Rego Park, NY, | Al,
Will the words "Nures!! Oxycontin 40 mg or Morphine Sulfate 30 mg STAT for the idiot that sells guitars for a living" help calm you down? :rolleyes: |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Dave...I don't think we are that far apart except for some cosmetic issues.
Al...I tried hard not to make you crazy(er) in my opening statement. |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 651
Location: Australia | If this is making my head spin, Al's head is probably ready to fall off.
I'm keen to know the price/delivery on the OFC guitar.
I thought the final spec was decided on ages ago ?
Hey Tim, I'm sure your a little disappointed that they wouldn't come to the party as far as the pickup goes but you've got to admire them sticking to their original intention of offering an exact replica of #47. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I think the final design is still in flux, but I'm not sure.
Who knows...maybe it will not be the type I want to buy...maybe I will not be able to afford it. But it could be the one!
We must all be patient and wait for it to happen. In the meantime this is just some wreckless speculation to pass the time. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Phil Wong:
Al,
Will the words "Nures!! Oxycontin 40 mg or Morphine Sulfate 30 mg STAT for the idiot that sells guitars for a living" help calm you down? :rolleyes: I'm not sure I want a pharmacist who can spell Oxycontin but can't spell nurse... |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Dave...you failed to pontificate on the type of top you think it should be. EDIT!!!....yes you did...koa you say?? A brave choice. I could see me going along with that.
Opps...there I go again...asking for an opinion from Dave.
Heads up Al!!!! |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 651
Location: Australia | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I think the final design is still in flux, Really ?
Slothead, blue, two knob preamp ?
Am I saving my pennies for nothing ?
....now my head is really spinning |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Brad,
If you read carefully you'll find in #8, he states Koa. Yet more evidence he spends waaaaay too much time fondling ukuleles.... |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Maybe this thread was a bad idea. Maybe I'm rocking the boat on something that is already done. Maybe I should just go over to the Martin board and talk about how much I love my Ovations. |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812
Location: Hicksville, NY | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Maybe I should just go on the Martin board and talk about how much I love my Ovations. I was just there, and just finished reading the "bashing" with regards to the Adamas that was won by fugot at e-bay for over 10k. I can't seem to create a link for it, but you can read it in the "General Musical Topics" section of the forum. |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Early OVATION ADAMAS for over $10K on ebay! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | I'm always amazed at the people who delight in bashing other people and their choices. I guess it gives them a feeling of superiority. I've played Martins that were great and I've played Martins that were shit, but I'm not going to bash somebody for their choice. |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Moody, I just say thank you for the advice on the FD14.... :cool:
Now tell me truthfully about your experience with #47.
Are you smiling because it's GREAT or is the tour almost over :confused: |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 651
Location: Australia | Couldn't agree more Moody.
I doubt that any of the detractors posting on that thread have actually played an Adamas let alone a slothead.
Each to there own.
I like Martins, but I've also played my fair share of stinkers. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Timmy, I'm just a happy kinda guy. I was smiling while I was trying to decide if I held the guitar next to my shirt and smuggled it out, if anybody would notice.
I agree with you. Aren't our FD14's wonderful? |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | guys
My life is very busy right now with many things. I assure you that once rick hall hears back from frank U that I will have some information on the OFC.
but to be honest I have other more important pressing things to attend to now so don't get mad if I can't get you the answers you need right away |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Al...My bud...How could we "get mad" at you? Like I said at the start...it will happen when it happens and it will be what it will be. We are not a bunch of outraged villagers storming the castle with torches and pitchforks.
Just take care of whats on your plate while we prattle on. |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Al,
No complaints from me, you were quick to answer all my emails and I'm thankful (ps, money order will be in the mail by the end of the week)
Brad,
while we prattle on I get visions of Animal House when everyone is one their backs doing the dead cockroach...
ROTFLMAO :D
Tim |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | I have rarely found any reason to frequent that forum. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Samova just posted pics of his Ovation slothead and some of his Martins. Great post Sam! |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812
Location: Hicksville, NY | I definitely agree with moody and richardd. While I will agree that we often have/had our fair share of bashing the "lower-caste" Celebrity and Applause models in this forum, but I still have yet to see an OFCer bash the character of the person who owns them. Unfortunately, I've had to experience that at the "other" forum, given the Ms that I owned, prior to my HD-28.
I happen to like both Ovations and Martins. In my experience with Martins, I've played some that sounds heavenly, and I also had my fair share that sounded like krap (and I'm saying that with a "k"). In search of my HD-28, I traveled to seven different shops until I found the one that bonded with me.
As for my one and only Ovation, I went to only one shop and was immediately happy with it that I brought her home on the same day. I like the consistency of sound that they deliver -- guitar after guitar. If money, home space and alibis with the wife is not an object, I'd definitely acquire more Os!
I just read Samova's post in the forum with his Adamas and Martins ... way to go! :) |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | We are not a bunch of outraged villagers storming the castle with torches and pitchforks ... yet. ;) |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
We are not a bunch of outraged villagers storming the castle with torches and pitchforks ... yet. ;) you will have to get in back of my neighbors |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 231
Location: N.J. | That posting over at the other forum REALLY annoys me :mad: ! Many people who complain about this guitar and that guitar not sounding a certain way or not worth a certain dollar amount is pure bull$hit! Not enough bottom end in your chords? Try moving your picking hand toward the center of the guitar. Not loud enough for ya? Strum the damn thing harder! Bottom line is to the audience, no matter which guitar is being played, its the musician that gets the applause, NOT the guitar.For someone on that board to imply that money was wasted on an early slothead was just plain ignorant.Thank god not all M@%t!n people are that way. {rant over)...... |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 123
Location: Braman, OK | I think the OFC model should definately have the tortoise shell pick guard, don't y'all? |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812
Location: Hicksville, NY | Nah ... a clear one will be ideal, so as not to obscure the beautifully designed top. :p |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | **bump**
For ProfessorB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Thanks much, Brad. I can wait . . . barely. |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 338
Location: Omaha | This is really going to be unfair, since I detect no concern here for the lefty player, who will get "left out" in the cold on the OFC guitar club...
:( |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | "But I'm ALL RIGHT so I don't care"
from some Randy Newman song.
?My Old Kentucky Home? |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | I just want to point out for other who may be similarly confused by the title of this topic, that the OFC guitar will *not* be packed full of hash. Corned beef or otherwise.
Thanks, Al, for clearing that up. And simultaneously ruining my day.
(I keed, I keed!) |
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