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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If we ever decide to do the OFC strap thing, here is the guy to do it. Fantastic straps custom made to your tastes!
Scoop Straps |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812
Location: Hicksville, NY | That's cool ... definitely worth the thought |
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Location: Braman, OK | His straps look pretty nice. Now he needs a website to do them justice :eek: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I just bought a Levy\'s strap .
It gots, ya know, class. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6201
Location: Phoenix AZ | Moody Leather Works also makes some nice ones.
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | For the Frugal Shopper on ebay Dave.Capps has some well priced, good quality items. He is working on a custom request for me now. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 389
Location: RI. That small State out East | With the "talent" on this board... I think a design could be found that "several" straps would be ordered.
Said another way. If we had a OFC strap... I'd buy one. Maybe two. I think 20 or 60 could be sold in a heart beat.
In fact people would be bitiching that... He has his and I don't have mine and I paid first...
A cool design is needed first. I think the 3 or 4 strap makers that have been listed above could all do a fine job. The volume "should" keep the cost in line.
A $30.00 strap delivered is a lot to pay... But not if it's a special OFC strap.
If we started now with a design request from the board... Had something to kick around at the tour stop... And got a list of who wants one.
I think we could have "THE OFFICIAL" strap by Christmas.
Comments.
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
| Hell, there's already a calendar, a cd and a guitar on the way. A strap should be no problem.
Brad's got nothing to do until September and he needs to keep his hand in. I think I just heard him volunteer.
This place is turning into a really nice, not-for-profit,self-helping socialist paradise in the heart of The Land Of Gecko. I'm proud of you boys. :) :D |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | "All for one, one for all, and every man for himself! Nyuk!"
Three Stooges
My strap preference is something devoid of "hard" and "scratchy" items on it. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6201
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Woz:
A $30.00 strap delivered is a lot to pay... But not if it's a special OFC strap. Ummm ... The Moody Leather Works strap pictured above is over $100. But it IS the nicest strap I have ever seen. |
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Location: SoCal | Boy, that picture is just beautiful! Whoever owns that strap and guitar is a very lucky individual! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | January 10, 2008 ... |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 167
Location: Waxahachie, Tx | eye'm expecting a strap from Eyeland I ordered the Sundance, it's one of their economy versions. They have,what look to be some nice straps. can't wait to see the quality. :D |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Dave,
Thanks for the Moody info. I had borrowed a friend's strap a couple years ago but couldn't remember the name on the it. It was a Moody, superior craftsmanship and a really comfortable strap.
I'm eyeballing the Camel and suede blue ;)
Tim |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15667
Location: SoCal | If the name Moody is on it, the craftsmanship is always superior. |
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Location: SoCal | 1/10/08 -- I'll remember.
What does the G stand for? |
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Location: RI. That small State out East | That's too thick, that's too thin, that's too brown...
We will never have a "strap" that will fit everyone. I still think a "nice" quality could be found and produced for $30.00 a strap.
What do we want it to look like?
As for $100.00 straps... I'm sure we can find someone who will do very good work for a chance to be the strap maker for the OFC group.
The turn around time might be slow... But the quality for 50 or more straps...
I think this could be done.
Anybody have a design in mind?
Woz |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Maybe Designzilla could put something together.
Or....who is the member that is a fantastic cartoonist? Maybe he could come up with something. |
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Location: closely held secret | Stephen - you mean the guy who drew this?
Captain Lovehandles (jasingram) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Sure it wasn't this one?
Oh, never mind. DZ can stay between the @$%#&* lines better! |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 241
Location: Le Havre (France) | And how about delivering the strap with an extra bonus like... an OFC guitar !!
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | re: "Moody Leather Works also makes some nice ones"
No way, afraid Paul would try to lay claim on the guitar :D |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 474
Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I have yet to find any better made strap than the El Dorado straps. They are also high end but man are they worth it IMHO. Their leather tooling is also VERY nice... |
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Location: closely held secret | AFG! You're alive!
Um... I mean... so, everything went well, did it? |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Of Guitar Straps And The OFC
We have knocked this idea back a forth quite a bit. Here is how I could see it happening.
1) Get permission from Myles and Al.
2) Realize that a set dollar amount will go to the OFC upkeep fund. Like the calendars, at least $5 each.
3) Post one of those dreaded polls and gauge the amount of real interest.
***sidebar***
The best way to get a good deal from a strapmaker is to say, "Iv'e got the cash in hand on an order for an X number of straps. Our budget is $XX.XX. What can you do for us?"
The second best way is to say, "I've got a committment for X number of straps...." This way the maker has to cover himself if the real quantity comes in less than the commitment.
Also, like the calendar this would be a one time thing. This would not be an item that you could buy from the OFC store 1 month later.
4)Realize that this will probably not be a high end, top of the line type strap. The final form of it will depend mostly on how many we order. The real value will be in whatever unique design we come up with. It's a geek thing.
5) Speaking of design, we have to be aware of and stay clear of any trademark issues.
6) Got to be aware of shipping costs. Including packageing. Between shipping and the OFC I can see a $40 strap going for $50 easy. Shipping out of the U.S.A. would have to be covered. What I thought would be more than enough for the calendars turned out to be just enough.
7) Like Woz said....not everyone would be happy with the end result. That's too thick, that's too thin, that's too brown... You may end up thinking it's a POS but you will pretend that you absolutly love it and act accordingly.
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Much is unknown. The realist in me says we would be extremly lucky to move 20. But that is what I said about the calendars. It might turn out as well as the calendar project....or it might be less. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Brad, is that a semi-commitment to head up this project? If so, you ARE THE MAN. |
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Location: south east Michigan | A semi-commitment at best. Just putting forth a possible plan. |
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska | Waskel-Thanks-Yep I'm still a pain to someone, somewhere. The procedure yesterday morning went off without a hitch. Thanks for all of your positive thoughts. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | AFG....I'm glad you are on the mend.
Rest up.
Play your geetar. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4051
Location: Utah | I would definitely be in. However, I would like to offer the suggestion that the design be portable to a couple of different straps from the same maker. For example, a thinner or thicker leather, or maybe available on a woven material. It could be offered on a lower end strap or on a higher end fancier strap.
Having an option to get a personalization, such as initials or a name, might be a nice addition that people could choose if they wanted to spend the extra dough.
This way we could appeal to those who want a $40 strap and those who want a $100+ strap. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Looks like Brad pretty much knows the drill. But maybe somebody (Brad!) could contact a couple strap makers to gauge their level of interest and what is practical. I would be happy to submit a couple of designs to see how people like em.
AFG, glad to see your up and posting! Take it easy. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | I am a Levy's fan but when I was in Nashville last fall I found a strap at Gruhns that I really like ... here is a link:
Pinnacle Strap
It is very well made, nice leather, and Gruhn's has them embossed with their logo. I use it on my 1537 and am getting ready to order a couple of more, but if the OFC strap is a near term deal, I'll wait. Maybe they'll give refer Brad to their source, which they claim is local. |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | I play sitting down, therefore I have little need for a strap. However, if there were an OFC strap (and this has been discussed several times in the couple of years I've been here), I'd be in for at least one. It would have to have a llama on it somewhere, though. Or, alternately, if it's being made of leather, made from llama hide. ;) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I think a llama logo is perfect. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I think a llama logo would be perfect also. Kind of like our own secret handshake.
I guess it would not hurt to contact a couple strap makers to see if an order for 20 or maybe 30 straps is meaningful to them or more of a pain. However I would not go beyond that without first getting the blessing of our beloved administrators. And even then it might not see the light of day.
Flysig.....I think we would do best offering one kind of strap. Value will come with ease of manufacture. Knowing how much work went into the calendar, I'm glad we did not offer two versions of it. |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | ...Kind of like our own secret handshake....
Based on some of the stuff that gets posted here, I don't know that I'm game for shaking hands with certain members.
Errr, wait, that doesn't sound right. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Slipkid:
1) Get permission from Myles and Al. 1) Spell Miles name right. Makes a better impression, doncha know. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | What do you want to shake Crusty, Ol' Boy?? |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Forgive me Miles.
A coworker is named "Myles" and I write it down a few times a day. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I sent out a few feelers. We will see what comes back.
I dunno....lots of bucks. One website had custom straps starting at $400. I did not bother e-mailing them.
Here are a couple links.
list of strapmakers
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might be the only one within budget |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | My suggestion....
We agree on one or two different styles of leather (or partial leather) strap.
We create Artwork which will fit those straps.
We buy the straps from pre orders made.
We have the leather on the straps laser embossed with the artwork.
This could be done fairly easily...once we agree on strap and art.
Here's a collection of very affordable and decent quality leather Straps |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Jeff, the laser embossing is a good idea. It might offer a little flexibility on the type of strap too. Then it might be possible to offer a chap and an expensive version. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Dizzy,
I added a link to the post above...
Here too: Affordable Leather Straps |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Oh....I see
Buy the basic strap then send it somewhere else to be customized. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | I believe our place works with a couple of shops that do that kind of thing. I'll see what I can contribute and get back to you all. I rarely play outside the backyard here (damn electrical collars anyway!) but I would be in for one for sure. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | I like the direction this is headed. It may be possible to please everyone! |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Weaser P:
I rarely play outside the backyard here (damn electrical collars anyway!) but I would be in for one for sure. not a bad guitar strap concept |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 123
Location: Braman, OK | Seems to me the first thing to agree on would be a logo design. Everything else is negotiable, no? |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Agree on a logo? I thought we already had it nailed...remember the Ovation logo with the hippy dude (heh, I said dude) stepping on the round back? Just replace the hippy dude with a llama. Bingo.
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I've made some cost inquires as well...let you all know the fruits... |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Man, I love how these things come together. What an awesome bunch of members! |
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Joined: March 2003 Posts: 195
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | I just bought an Italia Strap off ebay for my bass. They are very nice not overly fancy, and a good price. Maybe the plan might be to buy straps then find the best deal to have them imprinted-embossed- or personalizrd |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 398
Location: Gig Harbor, Washington | I've bought numerous full-grain Leather G-Straps with sheep skin padding from Jodi Watson (aka GuitarStrap @ eBay) with Atlas Guitar Strap...
She is Super Duper to work with and may very well be the highest quality/value of custom strap dealers we could find!
I'll check on some bulk details and get back to y'all...in the meantime - here's a sample:
Luscious Custom Strap by Jodi :cool: |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | ...full-grain Leather G-Straps with sheep skin padding...
I parsed that as 'G-strings with sheep skin padding.' 'Nuff said. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I just got this responce from "Axestraps"...
(I don't have a manufacturing facility; each strap, is carefully assembled by me as it is ordered. In the case of hand-embroidery, several hours of labor are added to each strap; the cost increases thusly. You're probably looking at $150 per strap and up depending upon the design. For hand-embroidery I cannot offer volume discounts, since each creating each strap is very labor intensive. It would take me many months to complete a volume order of this type. )
Nice straps I'm sure...but out of our price range. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4051
Location: Utah | My aunt runs a small embroidering business in Santa Fe. She puts the design into her computer and then downloads the info to some fancy stitching machine. I would guess that many strap makers have the same kind of setup where they can create artwork, or accept artwork via email/cd, and then apply it to a variety of different straps, or in our case, a multitude of straps. Axestraps is hopefully not representative of what's out there. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4051
Location: Utah | BTW, what's with the llama? I must be too new to understand the reference. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | The llama has become kinda/sorta the unofficial OFC mascot. Came up a few years ago (you can search the history once the archives are back up) and has apparently been a running joke since. One or two actual live llamas made an appearance at the '05 Tour (again, once the archives are back up, see the '05 Tour pics). It's pretty much all in fun but word is you have to keep a very close eye on Cliff when he's around one...
You'll catch up with a little more time around the Board. |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1300
Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Actually, you would be better off NOT watching when Cliff is around one! |
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Location: Midland, MI | Although, if you want to watch, I've heard there's an 'underground' DVD making the rounds. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175
Location: Eugene, Oregon | I just purchased an Atlas, 2 inch leather/padded strap. It's very nice, great quality. I really like it. :)
Now, about the frolicking Llama... Will that be stamped or embroidered?
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I like the idea of choosing my Llama's color. ;) |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 123
Location: Braman, OK | The strap should have llama fur padding -- it shore is soft, heh. |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Hrmm, I was thinking llama leather outer with an alpaca liner. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15667
Location: SoCal | YOU WOULD SACRIFICE A LLAMA FOR A GUITAR STRAP????
Heartless, just heartless...... |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Look, it's like this, llamas die. Sometimes it's by natural causes. Sometimes it's not. But, we're not going to go into the proclivities of certain members and what they need all that duct tape and those hip waders for.
I'm not saying we kill one. Just sort of, you know, wait for one to drop. :eek: |
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Location: SoCal | Oh... in that case... |
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Location: closely held secret | Yeah, Paul. We're not saying we should kill one.
...maybe you could do it, though... |
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Location: SoCal | What kind of money we talking here? |
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Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | Originally posted by MisterGolf007:
I've bought numerous full-grain Leather G-Straps with sheep skin padding from Jodi Watson (aka GuitarStrap @ eBay) with Atlas Guitar Strap...
She is Super Duper to work with and may very well be the highest quality/value of custom strap dealers we could find!
I'll check on some bulk details and get back to y'all...in the meantime - here's a sample:
Luscious Custom Strap by Jodi :cool: Boy, I really like this strap. Simple and good looking. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | For the "Basic" Strap We can get this for $9.00 each if bought in bulk. This is seude. The regular brown leather version in the lower pic is $7. Black, tan and brown are available in both...
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | A dark colored on would not show the laser design very well. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Brad,
I know that would be the case, but I wanted to show two different colors...this is all just investigation at this point. By the looks of the poll we might be able to jump up in quality for the "basic" strap... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Hmm...whatcha got in a taupe or something like an ivory linen, Jeff? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I have a FAAAAABULUTH drape sash strap with a hint of gold accent... cut on-the-bais, a muthst!! |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | Jeff - when you're getting rough quotes, what is the volume you're using? Just so's I can get an apples to apples... |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 30 minimum. |
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Location: south east Michigan | The way the price is looking, 30 should be very doable. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 253
Location: New Orleans | Thanks for the initiation of the OFC strap! I'm looking forward to having one, maybe two, and would then customize one further because I simply must have...studs. :D
Maybe I'll just spell out "Ovation Fan Club" and wear with pride! Might even try out "Project Llama" if I can get a good looking stencil going.
Last guitar strap I was given had 3 SEARGENT STRIPES glaring across it, very visible. It took me 15 minutes of meticulous seam ripping to eradicate that LOL-ness but now I've added a few small spikey studs and created one very sharp lookin' heart.(pun definitely intended)
Two months ago I began to stud out the back of my lightest weight trenchcoat and it's starting to come into shape. The shape of my EliteT. It's going to look like a guitar with no strings but I've decided to put tiny fret markers to fill it out a bit. It's the biggest design I've ever attempted. Ever.
So, if you want to get a bit crafty, get yourself a kit and practice different designs on old denim.
It's easy and it doesn't cost a fortune.
Whoah, The OFC Rocks!!! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hey LeStrange....how bout posting some pics of your (gnarly :D ) artwork? |
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Location: south east Michigan | I have had the same guitar strap since about 1972. I think it's time for a change. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I have had the same guitar strap since about 1972. Brad, does it still have all the leather fringe? |
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Joined: June 2004 Posts: 271
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida | I would of thought Al or Myles would of "piped in" by now ???
Ab :eek: |
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Location: NJ | the problem with buying straps would be to get a price and a strap all would like they would have to be in bulk.
There have been several items that people wanted and they just sit in the ofc store.
We would need to find a universally appealing strap that was reasonably priced and of the highest quality. that is next to impossible.
Now I have been knonw to do the impossible but currently my times is extremely limted. I think this is a great idea but would NOT be able to implement it any time soon because of personal committments.
give it a rest and get back to me.
thanks for understanding |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Al,
You forgot to say "GRRRRRRRR!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRg!!" |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | I don't think there IS anybody named Miles anymore. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks for the input Al.
Perhaps this could work like the calendar did. Pre-paid orders...a couple of us do the all the research and leg work...when it is all done we send the OFC's cut off to you. I can see why we would not want to inventory such an expensive and personal choice type item. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | I'm with Brad. The goal is not to make more work or hassle for Al and Miles. The goal is to get an OFC strap. If OFC members handle it and get cash back into the OFC it's great for everybody.
Except the people who don't order one in time! |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | and maybe the excess could be sold on ebay for big bucks like the last calendar was.
We should also contact Spider. I believe he would commit to a bunch for the Japanese market. He was bummed that he missed out on the calendar. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I would not count on any extras on a project like this. It was just fortunate the calendar worked out the way it did. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I would not count on any extras on a project like this. Brad, Brad, Brad... :rolleyes:
This is the OFC... if you get commitments for 50, make 50. That will leave you with at least 10 extra. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by Waskel:
if you get commitments for 50, make 50. That will leave you with at least 10 extra. That's why you get cash up front! |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6201
Location: Phoenix AZ | My wife wanted to know what OFC was. I told her it was Old Fat Chicks. Now she wonders what an OFC Strap is ... |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Time running out for your order!!
I am guilty of procrastination but ordered four yesterday from Al. Maybe five if they will put a clip on the end of one for the 47RI...in burgundy.
Al needs orders no later than Wednesday, November 22nd...he said Friday but remember that is the Thanksgiving long weekend.
Check out the 1st post on this thread for the website to check them out. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1889
Location: Central Massachusetts | Tony, wrong thread... go here for OFC Strap info |
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