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Location: SoCal | Stephen, is that you buying the book guitar? Is that $2800 US or Canadian? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Something is not right here. Fugot bids 755. and then gets outbid (probably damn glad he did). But the same bidder just keeps upping it 1100, 1300, 1800, 2500, 2800. all within three minutes with no other bids. This makes no sense, there must have been a higher bid than 2800 (a shill bid?) and then retracted. The high bid right now should only be 765. to outbid Fugot. Something just ain't right.
Hell, if this thing sells for $2800. I think every person who owns one will put their's on the block immediately ... but I'm not the price police. Let's hope the $2800 is true.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Look at the items that bidder has previously purloined.
I'm with Dave. It looks broken. |
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Location: Houston, Texas | This is an Ebay neophyte question. If the bidder placed a maximum bid of let's say, $3000, and the reserve price was $2800, would Ebay automatically up your bid to beat the reserve or just enough to beat other bidders? |
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Location: SoCal | Just enough to beat the other bidders. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | That is what I think happened. The bidder kept adding to his last bid until he finally hit the reserve price.
Paul, no...not me. I just sold my "Book" to Dano in Toronto. If this sale stands up at the current price, Dano will be a very very happy camper! |
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Location: SoCal | That was one helluva reserve! |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Just enough to beat the other bidders. So at the end of the auction, you could lose out just because no one else beat the reserve? |
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Location: North Idaho | Amazing. Must be the special 'RARE' version. :D |
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Location: Indiana | I have to disagree. I bought a bass on ebay a few years back and when I went over the reserve, the bid automatically went to the reserve. there were no other bidders. I believe t28 is right ("bidder kept adding to is last bid"). I've done it before. But wow! $2800?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | That's not right. Even if you entered a max of $3000. ebay will only bid you up to beat the next highest bidder, UNTIL the auction end and at that time it would take you up to the amount necessary to make the reserve.
The "bug" in ebay (and this is what shill bidders exploit) is that it will bid you up to beat the next highest bidder, but if that next highest bid is retracted it only drops you back down to you last bid just below the shill. hat's why you could get totally screwed if you keep placing higher and higher bids against yourself, which I bet is exactly what this poor person has done.
Will be interesting to see what happens to this one. I've already got mine cleaned up, in the case and ready to sell.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | So, Tim, what did you just pay for yours? |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "Even if you entered a max of $3000. ebay will only bid you up to beat the next highest bidder, UNTIL the auction end and at that time it would take you up to the amount necessary to make the reserve."
Is that new? It used to be that when you entered your maximum bid you would overtake the highest bidder (assuming you bid high enough) or overtake the reserve bid if your max was over that amount.
I have been using snipe bidding for years now so I'm not aware of any changes in the bidding within the actual Ebay system.
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Location: North Idaho | Actually by the price I paid recently and it did not come with the book, I must assume the autographed book is worth over $2K. Maybe Bill ought sign some more and put them on O-Ebay. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Bluebird:
Is that new? I don't know if it's new, but I'm almost positive that's how it works. Happened to me recently. Something had an opening of $1.00 and some reserve. No bids yet. I bid max of $20. and I showed up as the high bidder at $1.00. Then someone else bid $8.00, so ebay raised me to $8.25. Nobody else bid and then at auction close ebay raised me to $10.00 to meet the reserve and I won the auction for $10.00.
The shill problem arises if someone had bid $50. on this auction and I then bid $25, then $30, then $40. The shill retracts his high bid of $50 but ebay only bumps the thing down to my last bid of $40. So I end up winning the auction at $40. instead of the $10, that I should have. This is why you only want to bid a max and don't start rebidding against yourself.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I have one of the books. I'll forge his signature and trade it to you for the guitar. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I have one of the books. I'll forge Bill's signature and trade it to you for your guitar. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, that is not correct. If the reserve price is $1000 and you enter a high bid of $1200, the system will take you immediately to meet the reserve price and your current bid will be at the reserve. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Stephen, I disagree. I entered a bid higher than the reserve and got the posting that said "Congratulations you are the high bidder although the reserve has not yet been met." And than only at auction close it bumped me over the reserve. Maybe I'm dreaming but I sweart that's what happened. Let's get fugot to put that slothead back on ebay so can check out how this really works! Dave |
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| ...that's very high price, but a great guitar!!! I will watch it to see which price will be payed at the end. I bought my Book Elite (#512661) in January 2006 on ebay (ebay# 7379942838) in absolutely mint condition at a price of 1110 Euro, that is 1336,01 USD. Everybody had this chance too, just have a look on ebay worldwide!! My Book Elite is one of only four ever delivered in Germany. On some pictures the Book-Elite has a trussrod-cover, other pictures showes it without. Does someone knows the reason?
Best wishes from Germany !! helmut-pl |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, maybe we are both on drugs but I swear the opposite to be true for me. I bid on an item a that I determined my maximum bid to be $500 and it elevated me from the starting bid of $49 to the resrever price of $350......at least that is the way I remember it.
I agree about testing it with Fugot's slothead. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You could be right (about the drugs). Why don't you go bid on my Jenny ukulele. It's sitting at $130 right now. Reserve is $180. Just put in a bid of $300. and see what happends, OK?
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | but Dave......wouldn't that commit me to (gulp :eek: ) buy the beast......or risk the wrath of the seller giving me a bad :mad: feedback rating! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | if this is just a test, and you would delete the bid, I would be happy to give it a go. ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Better not risk testing it. You'd hate to end up owning one of the devils tools ... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | tho playing with a "G" string on anything named Jenny might be worth the risk! |
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(you would be required to wear a clown suit, however) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
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(you would be required to wear a clown suit, however) OK.....can you loan me yours? ;) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | s'at the Dry Cleaners...... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Figures.....day late dollar short! |
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