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Location: Wooster, Ohio | I have my 87 collectors which has OP24 electronics. With the advance of electronics since this was made would it be better to run it through a Fishman Aura with Ovation imaging rather than trying to screw with updating the OP24. I am not unhappy with the OP24 but I wonder if anyone has tried the Fishman with an older Ovation?
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Location: Scotland | The Auras are fine as long as you use it sensibly. The problem with all of the modelling stuff is that unless you're careful you end up hearing the processing rather than your guitar. Personally when I plug in my Custom Folklore or my Adamas I want to hear it's own tone, rather than dialling in a Dreadnought "model" or whatever |
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Location: East Tennessee | Paul is right.
Ovations sound really good plugged in. They also sound great unplugged.
I know sometimes I can get carried away with wanting to add something,(chorus,reverb,phaser,etc) when the really good sound is just straight in and tweak the EQ a little to suit the venue you playing in.
BTW Paul I loved your chord work on the G-Band clip.
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Location: SE Michigan | I had a Fishman Aura for a few weeks before I sent it back, and I have to say it was a great tool. I have also played (and heard) the Fishman equipped Martins and they sound fantastic. Honestly the Aura does the best job of acoustic amplification that I have heard. So why did I send it back? Like so many modern effects it was TOO FREAKIN COMPLICATED!!! I didn’t want to go back to college to learn how to use the thing! The manual read like a chemistry textbook!
Now I know I may be exaggerating a bit, and it's true some of you geeky gear-heads probably love the thing, but I just wanted a few good tones out of my guitar, I'm not trying to plot the orbit of the space shuttle for the next lunar mission!
The same is true of all these modeling pods and boxes, they have fourteen thousand settings with twelve hundred cabinets and a built in tuner! All I want is two or three classic tones!! Do you hear me all of you gear manufacturers? I am getting old and feeble-minded, PLEASE KEEP IT SIMPLE. It's hard enough to remember all of the words to all of the songs without having to learn how to operate the equivalant of a Boeing 767.
That’s why I look forward to the VIP preamp. I am hoping it is simple with a few great sounding models in it, also that it is compact and simple to use. If it is all of these things and makes my guitars sound like the Aura, I definitely want one.
But to answer your question, the Aura is a great box if you have the time and dedication to learn to operate the thing. |
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Location: SoCal | I agree with you, Brian, on how complicated some of the equipment out there is. I get turned off from a lot of it because I don't even understand the basics of it.
I've got a buddy who bought one of these
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-ZOO-504II--s-zoom-504ii.html
and loved it. Even it's basic setting gave him a great sound. And it's got models for steel and nylon strings.
Haven't heard from you Brian on your T5. Now that you've had it awhile, how do you feel about it? |
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Location: SoCal | One of the great things about the VIP is that it gives you your guitars sound, but thru different types of mics. It's not a modeler of different guitars. |
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Location: Australia | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
[QB] One of the great things about the VIP is that it gives you your guitars sound, but thru different types of mics. /QB] ...exactly what the Aura does |
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Location: NW NJ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I agree with you, Brian, on how complicated some of the equipment out there is. I get turned off from a lot of it because I don't even understand the basics of it.
I've got a buddy who bought one of these
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-ZOO-504II--s-zoom-504ii.html
and loved it. Even it's basic setting gave him a great sound. And it's got models for steel and nylon strings.
I customized 5-6 basic settings based on an Adamas model that I use all the time during worship sets. Here's a link from Zoom:
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| Simple is- taking an Ovation, plug in the cord to a PA, let the soundman do the rest. |
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Location: SE Michigan | Hey Moody, here are the specs on the "simple" zoom box:
Effect Programs : 33 Types
Effect Modules : 9
Maximum Simultaneous Effects : 10
Effect types : 9 Modules Patch Memory : 36 (6 Banks x 6 Patches)
Sampling Frequency : 31.25kHz
A/D Conversion : 16 bit 64 times oversampling
D/A Conversion : 16 bit 8 times oversampling
Guitar Input : 1/4" monaural phone jack (Nominal input level : -20 dBm / Input impedance : 470kohms)
Output (Used as both Line and Headphone) : 1/4" stereo phone jack (Maximum output level : +5 dBm / Load impedance 10kohms or more)
Control Input : For expression pedal FP02 or foot switch FS01
Display : 2 digit 7 segment LED
If that is one of the "simple boxes", I'd hate to see the complicated model. |
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Location: SE Michigan | Oh yeah, about the T5, I am using it mostly in electric guitar type contexts (Full band with drums and bass), and also for a few recording projects. I still reach for my "simple" 1777LX for open-mic type stuff.
I like the plugged in tone and feel of the T5, I am not found of the shorter scale, I think it looses some of the bass thump as a result. But build wise and fit and finish it is wonderfull. And for people who prefer the "feel" of an acoustic guitar it makes a great electric guitar. Some of my electric guitar playing friends dont like the feel of it, but they string their guitars with 9's, my T5 is strung with 12's, but I like it that way. So far it's a keeper, but it really is more of an electric guitar. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I still haven't figured out my Behringer amp that I paid $85 for. The manual seems to be in plain English. I understand most of the words, but when those words are used in the context of computers, I get lost. Even when they say what MIDI means, digital interface means nothing to me. And modeling is something that I only want to see good looking girls do, as long as they aren't too skinny. |
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