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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | A bit more than a week ago, I put D'add ProArte Hard Tension strings on the new to me but, 6 year old (and in otherwise perfect condition) Hirade HD 90. Coupla days ago, I heard a "CRACK" along with the faint resonance of strings :eek: ... and after a reluctant visual inspeción, confirmed the horrible truth :( ... directly below and parrallel to the Treble side of the fretboard, soundboard checked from the soundhole to the purfling at the neck/body joint.
I had finally removed the Hirade from the case having remained in the case for nearly a week while we she was coming to hold tune with the new strings. I hung it on the wall, next to the Lowden, where it lived for about a week... :rolleyes:
First time any guitar I have ever owned that has suffered a sound board crack. :mad: |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Bummer :( Sorry to hear that.....Do you think that maybe it might have been the caused by the temperature changes of hanging between the two windows? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Mike,
Observant question, though the guitar was only in that spot... (which is in shadow all day as the windows face south, therefore the interior wall faces north)...for those pictures. It was living on another wall in a small alcove... |
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | :(
Man, I am sorry to hear this. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, while many people have different opinons about hanging guitars on walls, I have also heard one universal truth. Never, never, never, hang a guitar on an outside wall (always an interior wall) due to the temperature changes that can occur between the back of the guitar and the front of the guitar. Ovations are probably somewhat immune to this effect but wood backs would be very vulnerable to the different temps.
How did the fretboard crack? An ebony board along the grain or a nasty crack that makes the guitar unplayable? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Stephen,
The crack is on the soundboard, right along side the fretboard. And the guitar was hanging on an interior wall. The hanger on the aforemented wall, holds the token electric JapStrat. Living in a log home, the thermal mass of the logs would negate all but the most minute of temp variations.
I'm inclined to think this is due excessive dryness, but just coincided with the string change. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Ahhhh, makes sense to me.....and you know the issues I am currently going through with low humidity.
Actually just picked up a killer guitar from GC about 3 weeks ago for a hell of a deal. They were trying to get rid of it and it was calling my name. When I got it home, I checked and saw from the serial number that it was from 2001, so they had it for over 4 years!
When I went to clean it up and changed strings and oil the fretboard, I noticed about a 6 inch long crack that ran parallel with the strings on the ebony neck. Quick call to the warranty/service group and I was informed that dryness and cracking due to negligence was not a covered item. Well the deal was too good to give it back, so I went to a local authorized expert repair facility and they filled it in with ebony dust, humidified it properly for a week and then gave it back to me.
$40 later and even knowing where to look I could not spot the area of concern. |
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | Ebony dust?
WOW.....cool |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Ebony dust....better than shrooms,man! :eek: :D |
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | Originally posted by Trboy:
Ebony dust....better than shrooms,man! :eek: :D :D |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | ebony dust and super glue. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ....That's gotta be hell on the septum... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hmmmmm......
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Ebony dust
and Ivory dust
Making music while my
old joints rust
Hanging on walls of
my log cabin, bust
why oh why can't it last
Like my Ovation,
Patiently
Waiting for me...
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | you guys and your smiliegenerators have too much time on your hands (and I'm really jealous!) |
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Location: Midland, MI | JeffW: 
To whoever started the whole ebony dust thing: It has somehow gotten that old Bob Welch song 'Ebony Eyes' stuck in my head. Thanks. :rolleyes: |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by stephent28:
you guys and your smiliegenerators have too much time on your hands (and I'm really jealous!)  |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 
Take that, you silly wabbit |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Okay, I have to ask, for those of us too new to know any better - are you guys creating those things, or stealing them from somewhere?
And, how...?
Oh, Jeff, not to change the subject too much - sorry about the guitar. I've heard that Taylor actually has scientific environment chambers that can heal most cracks in wood guitars. Any possibility that might help? |
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| Originally posted by edensharvest:
Okay, I have to ask, for those of us too new to know any better - are you guys creating those things, or stealing them from somewhere?
And, how...?
Oh, Jeff, not to change the subject too much - sorry about the guitar. I've heard that Taylor actually has scientific environment chambers that can heal most cracks in wood guitars. Any possibility that might help? [/QU]
Was it a guy called Dave who told you about these "scientific environment chambers"? |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I once had a Custom Legend 12 that this happened to. The crack was the result of a brace coming loose from the top. Do you think it's possible you have a brace problem?
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | John,
Evidence suggests this is not brace related. The crack happened way up on the shoulder just along side the fretboard where there is little bracing |
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Location: Cicero, NY | That's really too bad, Jeff. I think we all know how estatic you were to grab that one. What's your next move? |
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | Originally posted by edensharvest:
Okay, I have to ask, for those of us too new to know any better - are you guys creating those things, or stealing them from somewhere?
And, how...?
Uhm...stealing. (from a friendly source)
Right click, copy and paste in images link at top of post. :D
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Location: Orange County, California | Don't worry about using them. Everytime you do, the servers that they are hosted on harvest our privte information so they can send us spam.... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | This is a test.
This is only a test.
Test complete.
In the words of P Diddy "Plagarism saves time!" |
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Location: Midland, MI | Borrowing from one source is plaigarism. Borrowing from many sources is research. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Wow Jeff, sorry to hear about your crack.
Good luck with the guitar too.
Does it effect the playability and sound? Is it just cosmetic or is it a structual problem? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | (Knew that was just a matter of time) |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Yeah, 3 pages of posts and nobody went there? Must have been too much green beer. |
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Location: Orange County, California | No,
This "was" a serious thread. I mean c'mon, what'd he expect from a wooden piece of junk like that!? No stability at all!! I was going to blame the D'add pro arte strings, but it's clearly an inferior instrument problem.
Jeff, you even called it a "POS" in your first post. You should just send it away and try to forget about it. If it were a new Adamas, it would have had a lifetime warranty which you would have never needed .... :D :p :D :p
Needless to say the initial shock has worn off and after we all got done crying for you and playing "our loved ones", we're ready to let you have it. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The shock and distress is passed. It's time to heal my crack. I'm not completely convinced it was a result of lack of moisture. It's not showing other obvious signs of being excessively dry... but, for now, that's the working hypothesis.
Dizzy, I appreciate your sensitivity. My crack ain't pretty, but it still works perfectly and sounds beautiful.
We'll give it some first aid for a while to see what happens. It's funny, but I have this strange urge to send it to Fred  . |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
My crack ain't pretty, but it still plays and sounds beautiful. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | So Jeff, are you gonna fill your crack with ebony dust and superglue? |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by schroeder:
[Was it a guy called Dave who told you about these "scientific environment chambers"? [/QB] Actually, I took a tour of the Taylor factory last September while I was on vacation and got the skinny on how it works. I'm sure that they're not the only ones who have the stuff to do that. |
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Location: North Texas | My guess is that the crack was not caused by any action by Jeff. Nylons probably don't have the force to break healthy top wood. Sometimes they crack naturally. If the guitar sounds good, no worries. |
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