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Location: San Angelo, Texas | A quick poll...
Who is either a Worship Leader or part of a Praise band?
If this is you, what do you play, what intstruments do you have in your band, and what style of service, Contemporary or Blended? What resourses do you need, or wish you had, that would make it more fun or easier? Maybe we can all put our heads together and help each other out!
As for me...I am a Worship Leader, play a 1777LX and an 1866, both in Black of course...and an Ibanez AS-73 in Red, just to give the older crowd something to point at :cool: (I don't wear socks, either, but that's another issue...) We have a blended service, with Praise and Worship songs and choruses as well as new arrangements of old hymns...with some Gaither and Southern Gospel thrown in just to keep the harmonica player happy :) I've invested a lot of my own money into songbooks on CD that give me lead sheets and piano, then write my own parts for the trumpet, horn and flute. Also have a cool subscription to G3 Worship that gives you a great deal on ALL the music on PDF as well as demo's of each song and trax just incase... They will even re-write all the music into a different key if you need it.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Now playing in the Cafe at Adventure of Faith. Have been able to try several flavors of guitar but mostly support the rythym on 12 string.
That, and it is my job to show Andrew (edensharvest) as many different Ovations as possible until he thinks he needs one more!
In our corner we have the Christian Musician's Summit annual event! I'd reccomend it to all! |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | Thanks for the G3 link Greg. That'll definitely be helpful for me, since I really need more exposure and familiarity with praise music.
I am with the praise team in my church, but mostly as a backup. Kinda' like a bench player in a basketball team. When the praise leader is unavailable for any reason, I'm the one that they tap. Sometimes in the very last minute that I feel so pressured to learn them songs in such a very short time ... that often results to me cutting corners, especially with chords that I'm not familiar with.
I've shown interest with the praise team for a very long time, but it's something I never had the chance to commit to on a full-time basis. Instead I was appointed another responsibility in church where I'm needed most -- that is ushering, leading the church goers to their seats, handing out the church bulletins, taking attendance, inform any announcements, collect the offering, operate the lights in the church, etc. I even managed to serve as a deacon for one year, but stepped down afterwards...
So for now, I can only watch my fellow brothers and sisters make music from a distance. When the opportunity arises to join them, I use my one and only Ovation and nothing else. I just plug her in whatever amp is available there, and pray to the Lord to let His music ring (using me as His instrument). |
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Location: Central Florida | I head up our Praise Band on lead/rhythm guitar. We also incorporate piano, bass, drums, percussion, and sometimes the music minister joins in on electric keyboards. Ours is a blended service of modern praise & worship songs/choruses and traditional hymns. I've used several different Ovations with the band, most notably a deep bowl Elite (which I sold in a moment of stupidity), a super-shallow bowl Elite (which is also now history) and my 1619 Custom Legend. Occasionally, I'll bring out the 1618 GC 12-string, just to do something different. |
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Location: closely held secret | I oversee the worship band at our small church, with 2 ladies who share some of the leading. One plays keys and sings, one just sings, but we communicate well on music. Right now we just have keyboard, me on guitar (usually the Adamas (or on bass once in a while)), one other guy on guitar who is still finding his 'place' in the band, and a couple other singers including my daughter and wife on occasion. We're waiting for a drummer and full-time bassist. Having three people who can lead gives us 3 different approaches to worship, which is really fun for us as well as the congregation. We mix it up with everything from Matt Redman/Chris Tomlin type stuff to traditional hymns to prophetic/spontaneous singing/music. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I lead a contemporary/modern style worship service (as Woody mentioned), and alternate playing between my 1778T and my 1881 Adamas. We currently have four guitars (on a rotation of 3 on, 1 off), bass, drums, and two extra vocalists. The only thing I'd really like to have is a good keyboard player and maybe a violin.
We do mostly newer (since the mid-90's) music, and I've found a lot of it through resources like worshiptogether.com, iwillworship.com, thejesusunderground.com, etc. There are tons of worship resource sites out there now. One that definitely bears checking out is www.experientialworship.com . It's got some cool worship ideas and resources. |
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Location: GA USA | I sing in the Praise Team at our church, and occasionally play guitar. When we put a group together, it's piano, drums, bass and guitar, and I generally play the Deacon. When it's just me on guitar and the group singing, it's the S771. Why do I choose those? They's all I gots! Next on my list will be a Viper elec, then hopefully a Tornado or Hurricane.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | We currently have two services, an early traditional and an 11:00 contemporary service. (This is about to change to 1 blended service - and we're already hearing some backlash about it befor it even happens) I have been leading with rhythm guitar (Adamas Primarily, 12-string Deepbowl Custom Legend when most other instrumentalists have to be gone, and the deep bowl classical for special music - either solo fingerstyle or accompanying a vocalist) In the Contemporary service I actually mix the set with a variety of songs from current songs (Paul Baloche, Tomlin, etc.) to some older maranatha/integrity stuff, and some upgraded hymns (utilizing lots of 7th chords) We have a drummer on an electric set, Two bassists available playing my instruments, 4 guitarists avalable with varying levels of experience, 2 keyboardists, 3 male vocalists available in addition to me, 4 female vocalists available (2 of those are previusly mentioned instrumentalists) The current size of the contemporary congregation is about 160 people. Here's where it all gets messy: The church has seen about 4 temporary pastors in the past 7 years, with the current senior pastor (permanent?) being here for the last two years. The previous worship leader was also the youth pastor (53 Yrs old), and was asked to leave. That added to an exodus of upset/dissatisfied people. I was the only one left that was capable and willing to resume leading worship, so the leadership asked me to do it. We're still dealing with some of those issues and people who have been working behind the scenes, some to move it to full contemporary and some back to more traditional. After MUCH prayer and discussion between the wife and I, we decided to ride out the storm and not abandon ship like so many others. So here we are, waiting to see what direction this all goes. I'd like to say I am optimistic for the church, but to be honest, I have no idea what is going to happen. So we pray and hold on to the rail. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | No worship band as a matter of course, but I've been contracted out on numerous times over the past 30 years to accompany a 120-person choir using a 1651 Legend Limited in a 2,600 capacity sanctuary, with and without the 4-story pipe organ. Amplification is essential, most recently with an Acoustasonic Jr, but also with a Deluxe Reverb, Twin Reverb and an M-80 Chorus over the years. We've also done a rock cantata with drums, and numerous duets with violins, flutes and several times with an oboe. I also backed up a harp once. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I also backed up a harp once. Ok, well, I've done that. Put a scratch in my Honda doing it, too. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Ovation is well represented in our church, but not by me. At 11 we have one guy with a Tangent and another with what may be a Celebrity. I've never seen it up close and it's a big church. There are a couple other guitars with brand Xs. The guy with the Tangent is a professional musician whose had lots of Os over the years.
Sunday evening we have a young guy with an Ovation of some sort.
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | Mark, It's only sinful NOT to buy Ovations....after all, friends don't let freinds play Takamine...
ProfBB...there is a question that comes to mind over the whole backing up a harp with a flute and oboe, but I'm not sure rather I want to know the answer...
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Location: Upper Left USA | 12 string and Hammer Dulcimer work out real nice. |
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Location: closely held secret | Michael, I love hammer dulcimer! If I pick my 12 string real fast I can almost approach that sound. Great for Rich Mullens songs. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | GregoryS: Regarding backing up a harp versus a flute versus an oboe: these were each performed as separate duets, not as a group. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by bvince:
We currently have two services, an early traditional and an 11:00 contemporary service. (This is about to change to 1 blended service - and we're already hearing some backlash about it befor it even happens) Well duh!
Where else can you practise your latin? |
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Location: NW NJ | Originally posted by bvince:
We currently have two services, an early traditional and an 11:00 contemporary service. (This is about to change to 1 blended service - and we're already hearing some backlash about it befor it even happens). We went the painful blended route for a few years. I'd say that probably 75% of the whole congregation was fine with it, but then there was the other 25%. The most critical ones were the really traditional people who have no use at all for contemporary style worship - they were vocal, about 70% of the unsatisfied group, and tended to be older, long time members. The elders of the church finally decided to go with one fairly traditional service at 8:15 (a few chourses, but only the "reverent" ones ;) ) and two contemporary ones at 9:45 and 11:15. I couldn't believe it. Everyone gets more-or-less what they like and most everybody's happy. Trying to lead worship with a congregation that was always complaining about something having to do with the service was demoralizing at best. MUCH better now! |
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Location: Norman, OK | Robbie,
We have the same problem since we went to a "blended service", and we're pretty tame for a praise band...We have 2 electric acoustics (my Ovation 1868 being one, and the other a Taylor 810) and a mandolin or viola along with a percussionist (congas and djimbe), keyboards and three vocalists..Nothing hard core... But the older crowd merely tolerates us I think. I'm hoping we go back to a full time contemporary service this fall, but making everyone happy with the times is the real problem...Seems like everyone wants to have their service at 10:30.
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Location: Omaha, NE | Our group consists of myself (playing either my Adamas or my Taylor, depending) another guitarist (Martin 12 string), keyboard, my wife on flute, and four or five vocalists.
It is a tough gig at times. There are wildly different levels of artistry in the group, and sometimes things can get a little hard.
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I'm very glad for the service arrangement we currently have. Our main services are at 8:30 and 10:30, and are "blended" service types, mostly contemporary (if contemporary means 1970 to 1990), with some more traditional hymns and a penchant for gospely-type swing choruses. :eek: We do have some older folks in the church that are not completely pleased with the arrangement, but overall the church is probably 95% on board, with no major amount of dissention. Our congregation is somewhere between 600 and 700 now and growing consistently.
Our service is not really blended at all - we stay pretty much consistently with the newest and more upbeat songs. We worship simultaneously to the 10:30 service, at the other end of the church. I hate to use this word, but I try to use a more "intimate" worship set, focusing on songs that are very plain, open, sincere, heartfelt, and express very real human emotions and experiences in relation to God's glory and grace. I'm a firm believer in the power and presence of the Holy Spirit in worship times, and try to create an environment where people can have a personal, intimate connection with our Creator.
Some of our songs do have more edge or "bite" to them, and we utilize electric guitars quite a bit. Woody has a couple different models he plays, and we have another guitarist (who prefers the '70s but goes with the flow) who plays an Ibanez SG-style, and we sometimes borrow a guitarist from the youth band who plays either a Celebrity 6-string or an Epiphone semi-hollow. We use him when we want to scare the white hairs. :D
I've really come to appreciate the merit of having multiple "venues" to accomodate many types of worshipers. In our church the results seem to be very favorable, and God is indeed blessing our congregation. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | A few years ago the congregation overwhelmingly voted to go to two "different" services, (after a whole lot of infighting over music styles) so most people could have the worship experience that brought them closer to God. But that wasn't even good enough for some, and the whiners have apparently broken down the leadership into going back. With all these wrong additudes and a focus on "Me" and not God, I see this really going down hill ... fast. I have suggested we have one unified "worship" service with the more "intimate" songs, preceded by a Praise prelude, preceeding the main service, in which we do a half hour of full-blown, no-holds-barred contemporary songs. It actually would be two services without them realizing it. Those that want it notched up could be satisfied, and those that want it mellow can have it that way also. I guess we'll just have to see. I have a meeting with the deacons scheduled for Monday night to discuss our direction. |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Interesting discussion, and the topic of 'contemporary vs. traditional' is nearly always discussed when worship leaders from different churches get together.
FWIW, I have been involved in leading P&W since the late seventies, and also have an extensive academic background in church history.
The irony of this discussion, which isn't likely to be news here, is that what many American Christians consider to be 'traditional' was contemporary not that long ago by chronological standards. If we define traditional by what was used by the most people for the longest time, chanting in Latin is the norm. The debates were intense when the pipe organ began to be introduced into churches, as there were many who preferred the traditional to this newfangled introduction of 'worldly' instrumentation and style into worship.
It's all culturally conditioned and hopefully Spirit influenced, and therefore changes over time and varies geographically. In the book of Revelation, it says that the vast throng sang a NEW song, so perhaps it continues to evolve (dare I say that about heaven, lol? If not, substitute change for evolve). Worship leaders hopefully help people connect with God, rather than hinder the process. Sometimes we end up doing the same thing at the same time because people get stuck on whether they like the music, or not.
BTW, I lead a worship band using a Custom Legend #1869 run through the effect chain described in a different thread. We play almost exclusively songs from the 90's on, the occasional hymn being an exception as is music for Christmas and Easter. My acoustic lead player, classically trained, plays a Taylor. My electric lead player swaps the Strat for a Larrivee for acoustic, and the 12-string player has an Alvarez. We also have keys and bass, and several of us sing in addition to one lead vox.
Anyone wanna loan us a drummer? My good friend Leftovertion leads a church a few miles a way in Omaha. He has two drummers, but won't share. :( |
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Location: Denver, PA USA | I am the Worship leader/music director at my church. www.gfchurch.net I use either my Elite 5778-4ES or my Martin D-18V. I play my Elite more. We do a blended service, but our set is mostly modern. They open and close with a hymn. I use Songbase software and like it n\most of the time. http://www.songbase.com/index.html I also have a subscription to SongDiscovery and Worship Leader Magazine. http://www.songdiscovery.com/
Like them as well. Very helpful.Our band consist of me doing rythum, another guy on lead guitar with a les paul and another one doing rythum guitar, he used a Takamine, but I just sold him my Legend and he uses that now. Also a keyboardist. And 6 singers. No drummer yet. We use the drum maching on the keyboard most of the time. That is about it.
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Location: Denver, PA USA | Originally posted by edensharvest:
I'm very glad for the service arrangement we currently have. Our main services are at 8:30 and 10:30, and are "blended" service types, mostly contemporary (if contemporary means 1970 to 1990), with some more traditional hymns and a penchant for gospely-type swing choruses. :eek: We do have some older folks in the church that are not completely pleased with the arrangement, but overall the church is probably 95% on board, with no major amount of dissention. Our congregation is somewhere between 600 and 700 now and growing consistently.
Our service is not really blended at all - we stay pretty much consistently with the newest and more upbeat songs. We worship simultaneously to the 10:30 service, at the other end of the church. I hate to use this word, but I try to use a more "intimate" worship set, focusing on songs that are very plain, open, sincere, heartfelt, and express very real human emotions and experiences in relation to God's glory and grace. I'm a firm believer in the power and presence of the Holy Spirit in worship times, and try to create an environment where people can have a personal, intimate connection with our Creator.
Some of our songs do have more edge or "bite" to them, and we utilize electric guitars quite a bit. Woody has a couple different models he plays, and we have another guitarist (who prefers the '70s but goes with the flow) who plays an Ibanez SG-style, and we sometimes borrow a guitarist from the youth band who plays either a Celebrity 6-string or an Epiphone semi-hollow. We use him when we want to scare the white hairs. :D Sounds like I wrote this. But you did a better job than I would have. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Paul reminded me of when a lot of Catholics left the church because they switched from Latin to English (or other language). Nothing was more boring than a priest droning on in Latin. My dad, who is a lousy singer (he admits that what he lacks in talent he makes up for with volume). Led some of the first singing in English at our church. It's still tough to get people to sing. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Our band consists of between 2 and 5 singers (myself and between 1 and 4 female voices), my Legend, bass guitar, keyboard, and drums. We play at the 10:45 service which is one of 6 services our congregation of 2000 hosts.
We have a Sat. evening service which is more of a folk style service, 2 traditional services with organ and robed choir at 8 and 9:30 on Sunday morning, 2 very contemporary settings at another building that are more like a Evangelical Christian service, and our service that is a more traditional style worship with contemporary music.
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Location: Denver, PA USA | Nice to see so many worship leaders/ worship musicians. I guess if I can make a OFC Tour someday I would have some people to jam with. I only know worship songs.Well except Labamba and Hotel California. LOL! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by williamfriggle:
I only know worship songs.Well except Labamba and Hotel California. LOL! I think Hotel California is a worship song (sort of). Read the lyrics. I think it's tellng the story that if you don't go to church you'll end up in the Hotel California (aka Hell). At least that't the way I picture it. The day I arrive in purgatory the sliding doors will open and inside will be a rockettes-style lineup of dudes playing the lead run to Hotel California on red stratocasters all swaying in unison to the beat. And there I stand with nothing to bring to the party except my own sorry ass and a freaking ukulele.
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | Dave...you know those flash backs you were promised in the 60's and 70's...now ya know ;)
Remember, we ARE the people our parents warned us about! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | "The elders of the church finally decided to go with one fairly traditional service at 8:15 (a few chourses, but only the "reverent" ones ) and two contemporary ones at 9:45 and 11:15. I couldn't believe it. Everyone gets more-or-less what they like and most everybody's happy. Trying to lead worship with a congregation that was always complaining about something having to do with the service was demoralizing at best. MUCH better now!" ...
We've gone that route - about 4 years ago - and there were still people (a small percentage) that were not happy. But for some reason the complainers are the only ones who have been heard, the leadership has apparently caved in, and they are going back to 1 service. This wouldn't be bad, if they would have first discussed the whole issue with someone (maybe me as one) who is involved with the music ministry. I find it amazing how a group of non-music ministry people can make a decision without bringing in someone who knows something about it. That's like planning a construction project and not discussing it with anyone who knows about building. |
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Location: Omaha | bvince wrote:
"That's like planning a construction project and not discussing it with anyone who knows about building."
Waaaay too many churches have done that, actually...
Paul B.,
I told you as soon as my son is 16 and has his license, he can drum for your praise team! (Actually, he does a pretty decent job with our youth praise team; I think he'd enjoy the challenge of playing with some better musicians; he gets kinda bored with the level the kids are at...).
Another comment about worship/music styles. We do two blended services...that means at least one "traditional" hymn almost every Sunday of the year, plus the trad. Easter and Christmas music Paul mentioned.
Even though we do a hymn every Sunday, some of our older people don't really hear it or identify with it, because it's done with keyboard, drums and guitar, not on the organ...if it's not the organ, it's not "traditional" to them.
Just an interesting aside that made me realize we could do FOUR hymns every Sunday, but without "the organ," the older crowd would not hear it as "their music." I am thankful that they really are very tolerant of the musical direction our church has taken, and we have "converted" quite a few of them!
BTW, I often play my L777 (black lefty Legend); while it's at the mothership being repaired, I'm using my Larrivee or various electrics. |
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Location: Australia | It seems dissapointing to me that churches have to break into two services just because people have to get their own way over something which is as ultimately meaningless such as musical style. |
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Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by richardd:
It seems dissapointing to me that churches have to break into two services just because people have to get their own way over something which is as ultimately meaningless such as musical style. The problem is, way too many church goers today operate under the selfish and false premise that the worship experience is about having their needs met. I help lead worship in my church, and we are constantly reminding ourselves and the congregation that the worship experience is about us bringing our sacrifice of praise to the Living God of All Eternity.
We teach that it's only when we offer God our praise and thanksgiving with a humble and contrite heart, and present ourselves as a living sacrifice, that true worship occurs. I know that sounds basic and old school, but generally speaking, I'm afraid far too many churches today rely on style and entertainment factors to grow their congregations.
Unfortunately, many pastors and church leaders have for years unwittingly fed this demonic machine of "style over substance" by taking the whole concept of being "seeker-sensitive" to ridiculous levels by trying to provide "worship de jour." IMHO, it's only served to fragment the body all the more, rather than unite it. |
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Location: Eugene, Oregon | I use to play a lot of guitar in my younger days at Bible camps and for youth groups. When I decided to get back in to playing, I was amazed at how fast my fingers remembered all the songs, I use to play. :)
I actually started playing guitar because of my faith. I had attended a service out in the sticks of Applegate, OR and there were so many cool instruments....I got hooked. :D
Now, the barn/garage hippie church is a huge organized operation. Gosh....the good old days! |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA | I actually play / lead out in 2 different churches. One church is generally conservative in nature so I play. . .piano, though sometimes my Elite T makes an appearance when I'm leading out.
The other church has 2 different services. One is a blended service where I'm again stuck behind the piano with a "Garth Brooks" mic. The other is a contemporary service where I'm either holding a wireless mic and running around, or playing bass (I'm absolutely awful at it), or even more rarely, playing my Adamas II. |
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Location: GA USA | This just occurred to me, and I thought I'd kick it around to discuss the pros and cons.
What about an OFC worship CD? Has anybody heard the music from Indellible Grace? It's all not perfectly professional, but much of it is very good. An OFC worship CD could actually be a big seller in the real world, and a declaration that Ovation is THE GUITAR for worship.
Oh yeah, not to mention that it could make for some good worship, and glorify God as well.
Whatcha think?
BTW, Gospel Guitar Guy and myself have recently registered at http://www.christianmusic.org/cmp/equipforum/
We're already turning the talk toward Ovations, but we've gotta be careful not to spark a backlash. Seem to be some good folks over there. |
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Location: closely held secret | If it was original music, all the better. Otherwise you run into a lot of copyright issues, not to mention there's already too many covers out there.
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Location: Central Florida | I'd be up for something like that, too. I had no way of doing any home recording when the first OFC project was being put together, but that's changed now... So count me in. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I like that challenge!
Also - what are some suggestions for OFC Jam collaborations? Perhaps via email or a separate thread! |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Great idea! There are definitely enough of us here to come up with some good stuff. Captain, I think you've just nominated yourself to head up the project! |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | I do the music for an 8 AM service, and been doing it for about 8 years, as the only instrument in the service. Along with a cantor/singer, I find that providing both rhythm, melody intros, and arrangements a challenge, and fun. The main choir plays at a later service, so I kinda like my niche. I play through a Crate acoustic amp. I alternate guitars, 12 String LX, 1868T, Taylor 514ce, and mostly the LX1777, which is the most balanced of the guitars. The music is much like folk rock pop, with a lot of interesting chord arrangements. I love it! |
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Location: GA USA | I think it would be great to lay down guitar and vocals and have someone else add madolin, slide, harmony. I don't have the equipment to do it at home. I'd probably have to go to a studio and buy a couple of hours, but I'd love to hand one off to someone to add to. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | How did I ever miss this thread? Man am I ever on board with this.
I lead worship (with my wife on key's and our pastor on a Carvin Cobalt I had before my Adamas W597 which is all I use now). Since we are Calvary Chapel, we are contemporary by nature, although I add both new and old hymns to the mix as the Lord leads.
We are just now having a debate over the whole CCLI thing, and my wife is pushing hard to just create our own music and make it public domain. I am on the other side, where I don't begrudge professionals their due (and of course abiding by the laws of the land) but still wonder why all Praise and Worship isn't public domain whereas performance oriented could be compensated...but that is another topic.
We let folks know from the get go that our style is contemporary, we are a new plant starting with just 2 couples and now up to about 50 people in rented space, so we have the luxury of doing what we feel God has for us.
Anyway, I am very up for things Christian and music related. While I have a Tascam 2488, I don't think it would be suited for editing (most folks use PC based programs for that even owning a 2488). I just use it like a tape based multi-track and that's as far as I have gotten (not very tech savy lately). |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by JeffreyD:
but still wonder why all Praise and Worship isn't public domain whereas performance oriented could be compensated...but that is another topic.
Jeff, a lot of the people that write contemporary P&W depend on the income from performance (CCLI) and cd sales royalties to support thier ministries. |
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Location: GA USA | Then how about this... We can concentrate on getting some recordings together, writing collaborating, etc. and try to put out a CD in the fall. Don't think I have to head this up. I'm probably least qualified, but I will do my best to contribute. I'm off to start a thread about "who plays what" so collaborators can network. This could be fun. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Help me understand this word...collaboration? I can play bass and fake the drums a bit and frighten Vultures with my vocals (well, I guess some rock groups made a lot of money off of that sort of screaching), but not sure how you do this "long distance" unless everyone is working with the same formats. Boy I feel dumb?
I do have a couple original songs that aren't too bad (I think), but have already sort of tracked them with drums and bass on my Tascam. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I'm looking to pick up a GNX4 in the next couple of weeks, mostly for the recording capability, as well as to get an upgraded effects pedal for my Viper. With that, I know that I can lay down tracks of guitar, keys, vocals, etc. I know that Woody and I, as well as a couple of others could get together locally to mix some stuff as well - don't know if it will be good enough quality for CD, but from what I've heard the GNX boards have some awesome recording capability, and software w/USB to send direct to computer for editing. Not as cool as a studio, but definitely cheaper. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "collaboration"
The ability to assemble several ADHD tempermental and eccentric musicians in the same room and produce a marketable product.
Usually involves one person in control of all volume switches.
Hey Fat gumbo - We need to have 5-10 songs for the Cafe Band to put down. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Mike,
Do you honestly think that we can come up with 5 to 10 songs that we all agree on? :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Teamwork is everyone doing what I tell them to! |
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Location: Waxahachie, Tx | The day I arrive in purgatory the sliding doors will open and inside will be a rockettes-style lineup of dudes playing the lead run to Hotel California on red stratocasters all swaying in unison to the beat. And there I stand with nothing to bring to the party except my own sorry ass and a freaking ukulele.
Hmm! pretty good visual on dat one. At least, May I suggest that you try to have, your best Boxers on, and could you bring one of your slot heads. :D |
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| You got to figure The Good Lord must think things have gone way downhill from the days when Bach, Mozart, Beethoven were writing music for him and Charles and John Wesley were writing some of the greatest poetry of all time in his praise. And all without charging copyright. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Yeah, but that was before it was possible to pirate music, therefore the need for copyrights, etc.
The more devious people become, the more rules are created to try to curtail them. Besides, this is the modern "civilized" age, right? In the old times, someone could be a poet or composer and would have someone else bringing them food, clothes, and wouldn't have to charge for rights in order to make a living!
We really HAVE come far! |
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