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Location: Phoenix AZ | Anyone have any experience with these? Especially on a classical?
GHS Mini Flex Mic |
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Location: North Carolina | I knew someone who had one in a Martin. VERY boxy sounding and ALL body contact noise was transmitted to the PA. |
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Location: NJ | Inquire to Master Templeman regarding the small clip-on condensor mics he has . . . they sound GREAT!
(you'll need 28V phantom, tho . . .) |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Miniflex:
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSHOWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! THUMP! THUMP! (rattle!)
Major feedback problems. I've heard them where they sound like someone with dial-up trying to get on the 'net! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I bet if you stick them waaaay inside the guitar there's less feedback.
'Course then it will sound like you're playing from a closet. Which could work for Rufus Wainright songs, I guess....... |
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Location: East Tennessee | I use one in my Martin 12 string.
Best sound depends on positioning. I use a Feedback Buster. It does transmit any contact noise. If you are careful it is not a bad sound.
I also run it thru a Boss GE-7 equalizer. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Well, here's my problem. I want to amplify my classical just for some recording work (just me screwing around trying to get ready for the OFC XMAS CD). My classical is acoustic only and no, I ain't gonna be cuttin no holes in the bowl.
WWKKD ???
Mini-Flex?
Fishman thinline to an endpin jack?
O thinline to an FD14 jack?
Record a uke and pitch shift down 1 octave?
AND, since I never play the darn thing I'm wanting to do this REALLY cheap. Like < $100.
Suggestions ??? |
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Location: East Tennessee | Dave look at these.
GHS Pickups |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Those look slick, Mike. Dave--this might be what you're looking for. Soundhole mounting would solve the problem of being anchored to a free standing microphone where you're afraid to move an inch for fear of losing the sweet spot (and gaining feedback). Best of all, you wouldn't need to alter the guitar. |
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Location: NJ | Dave;
If you're recording, why not just use those MXL's you've got?? . . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
Dave;
If you're recording, why not just use those MXL's you've got?? . . . I just can't seem to get a decent recorded sound out of my classical (could be operator error), and I thought maybe a mix of mic'ed and some kind of on board pickup might be a good idea.
Dave |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | They might work well in the studio but they suck on stage with a band. I have to deal with one every week that's mounted on an Epiphone and not only does it sound bad, it's a bitch to EQ. Major feedback and it picks up all the other onstage stuff like the drums and bass. I realize the Epiphone itself sucks but the mini mic doesn't help the situation at all. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 212
Location: France | Dave,
have you read this review? http://www.fingerpick.com/pickups.htm
The Dimarzion DP139 seems interesting and is not too expensive.
Tom |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out. Dave |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Standingovation:
I just can't seem to get a decent recorded sound out of my classical Dave Dave, forget internal mikes, they are more trouble than they're worth. They also kinda miss the fact than the true sound of any instrument develops several feet away from it.
You have some respectable mikes and recording kit, there's no reason why you shouldn't get a decent sound. Take a look at this:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/humbucker/acguitrectec.html
Coincident pair recording is foolproof and consistent. With good mikes and the correct gain structure it's difficult to get a bad sound. I prefer to set the mikes between the bridge and soundhole rather than the 12th fret. The other trick is not to get too close, set the mikes at least 14 to 18 inches away from the guitar. A little compression can help, keep the comp ratio pretty low, 4 to 1 max, fast-ish attack, medium release. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Thanks for the advice Paul. My problem is I'm always looking to buy a quick fix instead of investing time to do it right. I'm not rich, but I've got more money than I have patience. I'll see what I can do. Worst case I hire you as a studio musician. Dave |
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