1713 Adamas Nylon
v74
Posted 2006-04-06 1:09 AM (#259231)
Subject: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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I found this one in Japan . . .
It said the model number is 1713





Honestly, I never see this model before.
I personally love it a lot !

Except Blue Adamas Nylon that Mike own, this is the best O+A nylon I have ever seen. I wish I can trade my 6773LX with this one.

Such a real beauty for nylon string guitar. . . .
slothead + adamas II inlay + Deep bowl + Epaulet + well craft decor.

Would love to hear how it sound.
Any historical guide about this model would be great.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-06 1:13 AM (#259232 - in reply to #259231)
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Simply Stunning!!! :eek: :D
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-04-06 1:16 AM (#259233 - in reply to #259231)
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WOW!

I was at Guitar Center yesterday and they have a near mint 1713 for sale. They must have taken it as a trade. I was going to post about it.

The one at GC, looks like the ovation site pic. I have never seen one like that.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-06 1:38 AM (#259234 - in reply to #259231)
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Looks like a 1537 nylon string. Nice.
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Posted 2006-04-06 2:18 AM (#259235 - in reply to #259231)
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That really is a great looking guitar.
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giuseppe
Posted 2006-04-06 5:40 AM (#259236 - in reply to #259231)
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This is so beautiful!!!!

http://www.blue-g.com/ is one of the best stores in Japan. They have a huge inventory of Martins, Gibsons, Collings, Ovations and Adamas and many other smaller luthiers.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-04-06 10:35 AM (#259237 - in reply to #259231)
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Fascinating. My 1713 doesn't look anything like that, although they both might have cedar tops. At least mine does.
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 11:22 AM (#259238 - in reply to #259231)
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This Adamas has cedar top too.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-06 12:23 PM (#259239 - in reply to #259231)
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It also has Adamas 2 inlays and while it looks like it was built in the early 80's, I'd bet it was actually built in the early 90's. It's got that red strip in the binding that was used later, and it also has later electronics (it could have been upgraded later tho').

I wonder about the sound. As good as it looks (and it is beautiful) I'd like to play it before I proclaim it to be a great guitar. Seems to me that the Elite configuration isn't driven hard enough by nylon strings to get a good sound. Hasn't there been discussion on this before? If it sounded as good as it looked, wouldn't have Ovation made it a production model?
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tdeej
Posted 2006-04-06 12:28 PM (#259240 - in reply to #259231)
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WOW 138,000yen = $1176 What a bargin! 1995
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-06 12:35 PM (#259241 - in reply to #259231)
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I agree with Moody. I would NEVER jump on anything based only on how it (she) looked. Well, wait a minute maybe that's not quite true ...
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Posted 2006-04-06 2:56 PM (#259242 - in reply to #259231)
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Probably custom built,reason for the non-standard appointments.......Acoustic sound is probably decent but was intended to be plugged in....
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Posted 2006-04-06 3:11 PM (#259243 - in reply to #259231)
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Trboy, I agree with you. But that makes it kind of a stupid guitar. If it's meant to be plugged in, then why not put on a super shallow bowl and go for comfort? Oh well.....
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-06 3:48 PM (#259244 - in reply to #259231)
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I'll bet you any amount of money I have some strings that will make it sound better then "decent". They made that GC Adamas Classical Proto Sound like a deep bowl..... :D IF I get to come to Thailand with my church next fall, I would love the opportunity to play it. I'll Bring the strings OK?
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Posted 2006-04-06 4:21 PM (#259245 - in reply to #259231)
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I didn't realize there was a such thing as an Adamas with a wood top.

Jeff
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 5:20 PM (#259246 - in reply to #259231)
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I agree that we shouldn't jump into it without testing it just becoz it looks great.

However, look is so important to me when buying guitar.

I can ignor the good sound one and go for the beauty one with OK sound instead. I give Ovation a good credit and just believe that it should have at least OK sound (acceptable unplug sound).

How many percent of the look and the sound you guy weight in your mind when you decide to buy G ?
Sound 70% / Look 30% ?
or
S50 / L50 ?
or
S30% / L70% ?

I know that good guitar should have a good looking and nice sound....but I ussually don't have many chances to choose or test many G before buying.

Just a discussion.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-04-06 5:27 PM (#259247 - in reply to #259231)
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beautiful sound is in the ear of the beholder. Since I'm in a relatively remote area as far as guitars are concerned, I have to buy before I try also. The Ovations haven't disappointed so far.
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Posted 2006-04-06 6:01 PM (#259248 - in reply to #259231)
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"Beauty is in the eye of the Beerholder!"
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 9:01 PM (#259249 - in reply to #259231)
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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
I'll bet you any amount of money I have some strings that will make it sound better then "decent". They made that GC Adamas Classical Proto Sound like a deep bowl..... :D IF I get to come to Thailand with my church next fall, I would love the opportunity to play it. I'll Bring the strings OK?
I wish I can give u the opportunity Mr.mtnbikerfred.
I didn't buy it. Someone in Japan 'hold' it I guess.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2006-04-06 9:10 PM (#259250 - in reply to #259231)
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I like it :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-04-07 7:40 AM (#259251 - in reply to #259231)
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"The Blue Adamas Nylon that Mike Ownes" ??

Which Mike?
Could we please see a photo of this guitar as well??

I have always been curious about a classical with the multi holes. It has always been a topic of debate; just how well those nylons strings will move a carbon/graphite top?

I know for a fact they work real well on cedar!

Randy
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-07 7:48 AM (#259252 - in reply to #259231)
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There's a photo on my website.



My theory: Multihole guitars sound bad enough to begin with. Why make it worse by putting nylon strings on one ...
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v74
Posted 2006-04-07 12:07 PM (#259253 - in reply to #259231)
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That's the blue one I mension. !
Never try neither blue one nor 1713 cedar, so i have no idea how it sound.

But they both look excellent to me.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-04-07 12:13 PM (#259254 - in reply to #259231)
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Interesting. Is the bridge modified for nylon strings? and is the headstock slotted? Or is this a standard Adamas with Nylon Strings on it? Very nice guitar...So what does it sound like with the nylons??? IF you have one, please end the "wondering" for me will ya?? I clicked on your web site and did not see this one woth the Adamas nor the 6 string galleries??


Randy
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-07 12:18 PM (#259255 - in reply to #259231)
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I played the one in the photo. It has a slotted headstock and a modified bridge. It was OK but not great sounding. That's true of a lot of guitars when they get in my hands. Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-07 12:40 PM (#259256 - in reply to #259231)
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I would love to own the nylon string Adamas Country Artist. But it would be because it was built for Glen Campbell, and I have a ton of video from him music show in the early 80's with him playing it. It's a good guitar plugged in, but not very good unplugged. It's a stage guitar.

I speak from experience as I've played it on a number of differnt occassions. Unfortunately, none of Glen's mojo wore off on me.

My 1773LX is a much better all around nylon string --- great acoustic sound and great plugged in.
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Posted 2006-04-07 12:51 PM (#259257 - in reply to #259231)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
So what does it sound like with the nylons???Randy
Originally posted by Standingovation:
I played the one in the photo. Dave
Yes, but answer the question - were you in nylons at the time?
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-07 2:26 PM (#259258 - in reply to #259231)
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It sounded "OK" in pantry-hose, but really opened up when I switched to stockings and garter. Dave
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Posted 2006-04-07 2:31 PM (#259259 - in reply to #259231)
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Thank you, Dave. You're a gentleman and, well apparently, a transvestite.
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Posted 2006-04-07 2:53 PM (#259260 - in reply to #259231)
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I gotta go puke....
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-07 3:19 PM (#259261 - in reply to #259231)
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BAAAaaaaaD!!

I gave PlayAdamas a set of the Savarez 520P1's for the GC Classical Proto. We actually put them on the GC proto outside a Starbucks, so It was kind of hard to hear the nuances, but the thing was LOUD. My 1763 favors high tension strings and rings for days with these. I offered a set to Fugot in exchange for visitation rights to his Adamas Woodtop Classical.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-04-07 3:53 PM (#259262 - in reply to #259231)
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OK Can I ask who's guitar this is?? Or ...Where is it???? I have never seen a slothead Adamas that was not original to the early ones and I have not seen one with Nylon Stings? Very interesting to me.

Also

I find It easier to picture everyone with Nylons, Garter's & Heels! That way I can laugh at the Men and fantasize about the Women at the same time! Although I have a feeling Cliff may actually look quite good like this. Now I am so confused!


BEt this one ends this thread!!!

Randy
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Posted 2006-04-07 4:05 PM (#259263 - in reply to #259231)
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You lose.
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Posted 2006-04-07 5:52 PM (#259264 - in reply to #259231)
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The guitar was built for Glen Campbell in 1981. He also had a ssb Adamas steel string. They nylon string is owned by Playadamas on this board, the steel string by Bluebird, also on this board. The nylon string is in southern CA and the steel string in Canada.
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tdeej
Posted 2006-04-07 10:18 PM (#259265 - in reply to #259231)
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I had saved the pics of this guitar and as I walked by the computer today noticed the backside of the neck as it came up on the screensaver. No, sound is not the most pressing issue with this 1713--yes, we have a break:

The dealer has removed the pics
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-07 10:39 PM (#259266 - in reply to #259231)
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:eek: :eek: NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!!! :eek: :eek:
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Posted 2006-04-07 11:18 PM (#259267 - in reply to #259231)
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wow !
that's hurt....

Not sure about why the dealer has removed the pics....
either it's damage one or it was sold out.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-08 12:11 AM (#259268 - in reply to #259231)
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That's a laquer crack, not in the wood. My 1764 had the same issue. Not a big thing at all.
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Posted 2006-04-08 11:58 AM (#259269 - in reply to #259231)
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Agree. Lacquer crack. Have one in the same place on my 1624.
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Posted 2006-04-08 2:05 PM (#259270 - in reply to #259231)
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Licquer crack
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-08 3:25 PM (#259271 - in reply to #259231)
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If I could get my hands on her (it. The Guitar. Whatever!!) I would "licquer" ALL OVER :D :p
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Posted 2006-04-08 7:04 PM (#259272 - in reply to #259231)
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This is a custom guitar, somebody should jump on it. It basically is the 1537 in nylon.
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-04-08 8:22 PM (#259273 - in reply to #259231)
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Originally posted by v74:
wow !
that's hurt....

Not sure about why the dealer has removed the pics....
either it's damage one or it was sold out.
Hi,

It was sold!!
ADAMAS 1713-X

J :)
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Posted 2006-04-08 8:29 PM (#259274 - in reply to #259231)
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To you, Jerome?
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Beal
Posted 2006-04-08 9:08 PM (#259275 - in reply to #259231)
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AH, that little medallion on the bowl, giveaway that it's an export model. That probably was the correct preamp for the guitar so when was that one introduced? There's your time line. Still a very cool guitar.
Congrats Jerome.
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v74
Posted 2006-04-08 9:53 PM (#259276 - in reply to #259231)
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Originally posted by paulmac:
]Hi,

It was sold!!
ADAMAS 1713-X

J :)
2 u ?
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-04-09 2:57 AM (#259277 - in reply to #259231)
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Unfortunately, It's not me and I sincerely regret it!!
I've seen this post too late and it was already sold... :mad:

J :)
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