|
|
Joined: April 2003 Posts: 2503
Location: Fayetteville, NC | Toto was on Regis and kelly This morning and The lead singer Steve Lukather( I think)was playing a Ovation legend. Some great guitar licks and a great sound.It sure was great to see an Ovation on Network TV during the daytime. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | Steve does a great job on the Ovation 40th dvd. Seems like a real type A personality. I love his jam session with Glen Campbell. |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 150
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | The new Toto album: "Falling Between" is excellent. They are touring heavily this summer internationally as well as in the states. The band is great with current members being: Bobby Kimball, Steve Lukather, Mike Porcaro, Greg Phillinganes, Simon Phillips, and David Paich. Can't wait to catch 'em live here in Vegas in September. They have a great website: http://www.toto99.com/ Go see Luke play his Ovation and Adamas guitars live if they appear near you. Great precision rock show............. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678
Location: SoCal | I looked at the Toto99 website. In the section for Lukather, if you look at the pics, in the only 2 where he's playing an acoustic guitar on stage, he's playing a Taylor. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The GC 12 reissue makes an appearence in this months Acoustic Guitar "Gearvana" |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | I saw them last year and they were outstanding. I'm a longtime fan so feel free to consider this somewhat biased but they put on a great show and sounded as tight as ever. Lukather, who I think is one of the most underrated guitarists in recent memory, played his signature MusicMan electric all night but his right hand man (Tony Spinner, I think?) played an Adamas 12 string that just filled the room. |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 150
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | If you look at Steve's individual information, there are pictures of his Ovation/Adamas guitars as well as the rest of his gear. The instruments artists use on stage are seldom what they "endorse". Last time I heard Toto in Vegas a couple of years ago, Steve played a Strat and Ovation 6 and 12 strings, so go figure. After all, I have always maintained, it's not the guitar or gear, it's the guy playin' it. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 803
Location: Avondale, AZ | After all, I have always maintained, it's not the guitar or gear, it's the guy playin' it.
Hey Dog, the guitar and gear have their parts in a musician's sound. Crappy guitars and gear produce crappy results no matter who plays them. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678
Location: SoCal | If it's the player, not the gear, then I'm in deep ka-ka. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | just remember, Paul...
a quality instrument will always make you sound better...
...that's what i tell myself |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 150
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | I'm in poo, too, then. I have a lot of great guitars and I have yet (I am 55 and refuse to grow up, by the way) to reach my potential, as they say. I just like 'em and want to have 'em around. So I am the last guy to profess to be able to make anything sound good. Maybe the "it's the guy, not the gear stuff" is a little over the top. Old Liver Jones is right, crap is crap, but I know that I have heard players make an old Harmony sing through the old Sears amp and so forth. Old no-name parlor guitars that sound so good properly miked and recorded are another example. I know better on gear in general, too as I have spent most of my working life selling high end pro audio and recording gear to folks to make 'em sound better, and for a number of years sold guitars and amps, so I stand corrected. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | Didn`t their first drummer(Jeff Porcaro)die? |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 150
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Jeff Porcaro suffered a heart attack as a result of an allergic reaction to a pesticide and died in 1992. There is a lot of writing about him out on the internet if you just put his name in a search window. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | Yes i recall at first they were trying to say drug overdose but his wife and friends were not having that.He was a really great drummer.Check out a C.D. by Jude Cole called "Start The Car".A great example of Jeffs playing,and a bunch of great tunes from rock,pop,folk,with a touch of bluegrass,Good stuff. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | I remember hearing a while back that one of the members of Toto was having a sex change operation. Turns out it was a joke Steve Lukather posted on his website that got picked up by some of the media.
Sounds like Steve would fit in well here at the OFC! :D |
|
|
|
 Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by OldLiverJones:
Crappy guitars and gear produce crappy results no matter who plays them. Tell it to Skunk Baxter and that guy who writes in guitar player and named himself after cheap guitars...brain fart again....
Old Gaelic expression; "It's a poor workman blames his tools." |
|
|
|
 Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Designzilla:
I remember hearing a while back that one of the members of Toto was having a sex change operation. Turns out it was a joke Steve Lukather posted on his website that got picked up by some of the media.
Sounds like Steve would fit in well here at the OFC! :D So, which of the OFC members have had / are having a sex change operation then? |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by OldLiverJones:
After all, I have always maintained, it's not the guitar or gear, it's the guy playin' it.
Hey Dog, the guitar and gear have their parts in a musician's sound. Crappy guitars and gear produce crappy results no matter who plays them. This is true, and so is the reverse. One of the guitarists at our church who usually plays electric just picked up a 1986 Balladeer 6-string in very nice condition. It's a decent guitar (what the heck, it's an O!), and has a nice sound. I sat in with the band the other day and gave them a demo of a new song so they knew how it is supposed to sound (within reason).
I don't consider myself a great guitarist, and at 25 have a LONG way to go, but I have to say that after I played the demo and handed him the guitar...well, it just didn't sound like in should.
Sometimes it's the gear, sometimes it's the guy (or gal), and sometimes it's a combination of both.
HINT: Play good guitars on low volume, and you won't sound as bad! :D |
|
|
|
 Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13996
Location: Upper Left USA | There are some guitars that sound better with different styles. My 1112 is a finger picker. Strummed and it sounds too brittle.
The LX seems to handle both.
I know that as a Band I have picked up some techniques from the other players. I'd like to think that I have given Andrew more than just GAS.
I was listening to the Doc & Dawg CD today (Doc Watson and David Grissom). I can't play at all compared to their clean lines. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by MWoody:
I know that as a Band I have picked up some techniques from the other players. I'd like to think that I have given Andrew more than just GAS.
Normally I'd say yes, but right now I'm dealing with MAJOR GAS PAINS! Try sitting still and abstaining from going on a binge spending spree when you have a $15000 check sitting on your desk. (most of which is already claimed for other things, by the way) |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | Andrew, have less withheld from your checks next year and then deal with GAS pains after April 15 after you have just sent the big check to the IRS. It's worse than trying to figure out how to spend the money you do have. When I last got a check my wife hadn't already spent for me, I bought the 1537 from Noah. I highly recommend that. I used all of mine up, but you would still have $14000 left. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | True, though most of that is supposed to go into savings towards a down payment on a house in about a year.
The rest gets divided up between about 300 different things that were stolen from our house last December (which is why the insurance company gave us the money, BTW).
I am looking at custom ordering a CL 12-string from the factory, but have been seriously toying with blowing the budget and getting a #47 instead. :eek: :eek: SOMEONE STOP ME!!! :eek: :eek: |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | I bet none of the 300 things were as nice as a #47. Sorry if I'm not helping. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Let's see...TV, stereo, cameras, movies, computer, small tools & appliances, CD's, clothing, attorneys fees incurred to make the insurance company cut loose...
Nope, none as nice as a #47. For that matter, none as nice as a CL12, a 1537, an '05 collectors... |
|
|
|
 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | SOMEONE STOP ME!!! Naw, our job is to keep feeding the desire!!
:p :eek: :p :eek: :p :eek: :p
47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47, 47 |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Someone 86 the 47 thing... |
|
|
|
 Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4073
Location: Utah | Hot dog! Toto plays about 1 mile from our house in August at a nice, small, outdoor amphitheater. |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Is he bringing Dorothy? :D |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | Anybody check out Jude Cole? |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | I always thought Cole could write catchy tunes. Don't know much about him but have one cd and he's got a couple of hooks there that I thought were were kinda cool. Does he play all of his own guitar stuff, GC? |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | WeaserP.Thank you,i feel better now knowing someone here besides me has heard of him.Yes he plays acoustic,electric,mandolin etc.He and Kefer Sutherland have a label and stuido together,hes also on entertainment tonite from time to time covering music stuff.I was just hoping to get this post away from TOTO.While as individals they are great,and as a band they are tight,i think their songwriting is weak at best. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | Well, in this guys opinion, Cole is good and he's a talent for sure but he's no Lukather.
Again, just one guys opinion... |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | Like i said, as individals hands down they are all at the top of their game. I just don`t care for the band. Lukather is in a class by himself, or at least on a short list of great players, who have their own style while being able to lend his talents on others music as proven by his vast studio work. I am a fan, but I really wasn't trying to compare Lukather to Cole as much as I was Cole to Toto. While Lukather is a guitar hero, Cole is a multi-instrumentalist and singer/songwriter, and it would be a mistake to underestimate his guitar work. Again, to compare the two is to much like apples and oranges, but as always, Weaser, I'm very impressed with your knowledge of some of the musicians who operate just under the radar. That's where most of the good music is at anyway.
Peace, Love, and Hippy music! |
|
|