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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Just looked at Standing O's serial number website, and it seems that I'm the only one here with a 1995 model 1768 elite, the year before the 'book' 1768.
Anyone else got one but haven't logged it yet?
Seems there are a few of the 1768LTDs here. Maybe mine's rarer? ;-) And more valuable??? ;-) ;-) ;-) |
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Location: New York, NY | It's OK... I think I'm the only member with a Tangent. And I'm sticking by my Tangent, it's a great instrument! (and so's my Tangent bass) Us lone sharks should stick together to fend off the hordes of Adamas and collectors series folks. :) |
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Location: New York, NY | By the way, check out muzza's post entitled "2005ES FRG neck problems"... seems' he's got a 1768 elite... and it seems I'm all alone in the non-loved ovation club. Oh well (sob) |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by vcnyls:
By the way, check out muzza's post entitled "2005ES FRG neck problems"... seems' he's got a 1768 elite... and it seems I'm all alone in the non-loved ovation club. Oh well (sob) Truth be told, there's no such thing as an unloved Ovation - just ones that are temporarily orphaned until the right person comes along.
Everyone is entitled to their own preference, which is what makes for variety. It's like one of my favorite quotes:
"Opinions are like a$$holes; everyone's got one and everyone thinks everybody else's stinks!" :eek: |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by vcnyls:
By the way, check out muzza's post entitled "2005ES FRG neck problems"... seems' he's got a 1768 elite... and it seems I'm all alone in the non-loved ovation club. Oh well (sob) Um... I think you'll find that THAT muzza is THIS muzza.
We're still united vcnyls! We are not alone. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Heck, sometimes I think I'm the only one here that doesn't have a problem with the sound of a shallow bowl O. 
(I own an 1868-4) |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | Originally posted by cruster:
Heck, sometimes I think I'm the only one here that doesn't have a problem with the sound of a shallow bowl O.
(I own an 1868-4) |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by ignimbyte:
Sometimes, I feel the same way, given that I only have one Ovation guitar, and it happens to be a shallow bowl. The deep bowl snobs will say that it's not our fault, we just don't know any better. ;)
Heh.
Actually, I've been thinking of picking up a deep bowl Balladeer (acoustic only) just to have somethign to drag around the yard and to the beach. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | It's not your fault Cruster.
You just don't know any better! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | A deep bowl Ovation is what got me hooked 25 years ago. For me, thats the Ovation sound. And American deep bowl Ovations with cutaways are as rare as rocking horse manure down here.
I'm lucky in that I've never found the deep round back to be uncomfortable or awkward. And I've got a bit of a gut. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I've got both, and I must say that I'm extremely partial to the shallow bowl. Maybe it's because that's all I had for ten years, but I like the comfort, control, and playability of the shallow (and my gut's not so bad yet!).
The truth is that we all need at least one of each flavor! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cruster:
The deep bowl snobs will say ... I'M OFFENDED !!!
I don't mind being called a wooden box snob, but a DEEP BOWL snob? That's just insulting. For the record - I AM A CONTOUR BOWL SNOB !!!
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I've been playing my Country Artist a lot lately, trying to learn Classical Gas, but last night I tried it on the Classic and that led to the other deep bowls. The tone, particularly the bass, is just so much more pronounced on the deep bowls. Then I played the Custom Balladeer with the supershallow bowl and the tone just seemed thin. The main benefit to the supershallow bowl is its comfort. |
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | Can't we all just get along and compromise...that's what Ovation did with the mid depth, and we all see how well THAT worked ;)
(ducking for cover now...back later..) |
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I've got a super shallow bowl Balladeer I NEVER play anymore. Nice sunburst and in great shape if any of you shallow bowl guys are looking for another. I'd let her go at a pretty good price. |
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| Deep Bowl Snobs Unite! :) |
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| Speaking of shallow bowls...I would buy this 12-string in a heartbeat if I had the extra cash! Ebay# 7407643327 I'm surprised there's no reserve. This is a nice guitar. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I just got back from GC and there was a young kid who struck up a conversation. He has a Celebrity (he called it an Applause), but said he didn't like it because he "had" to plug it in. I asked him to try one of the mid bowls or a deep bowl, but he declined, saying he'd just get a wood box next time like an Alvarez they had hanging on the wall. Another potential Ovation fan lost by the shallow bowl.
At the time I was playing an Ibanez nylon string that sounded like crap compared to either of my nylon stringed Ovations, but he thought it sounded good. He had never heard of Classical Gas, either, so I can't vouch for his knowledge or taste. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | You do have to consider the source - many people simply will never be won over by a guitar with a plastic bowl. I like Taylors and can appreciate the sound of Martins, but when I buy a guitar it always ends up being a roundback. If some kid isn't bright enough to try many flavors before he spends too much on an Alvarez or Guild or even drops 3G's on a Taylor, that's his tough luck. I don't think that he'd even be impressed if he picked up a deep-bowl slothead and it sang to him. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
He had never heard of Classical Gas Or maybe he couldn't recognize that THAT's what you were playing. he he he
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Interesting that this post has sparked a deep/shallow debate.
Still no 1768's then? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by muzza:
Interesting that this post has sparked a deep/shallow debate.
Still no 1768's then? Not all that interesting. Any time someone posts something positive about a SSB, the DB snobs come out of the woodwork to brow beat us more 'open minded' players into submission.
SSBs::DBs = Ovation::Martin
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Location: Boise, Idaho | No one is more open minded than me. My mind is like a sieve. Dave on the other hand...the kid hadn't heard of it even after I told him what I was trying to play. I've got the first page down to where anybody should recognize it. After that I'm lost. |
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Location: Midland, MI | I like the tune, Mark, but have never thought about even attempting it. I know the first four bars to 'Samba Pa Ti' in two different positions, but can't get past that..."Classical Gas" is out of my league. Have you recorded yourself? I'd like to hear it.
On the SSB/DB front...I was just stirring things up. ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Fortunately, no one has ever recorded me. The last time someone tried was when I played at a wedding in about 1980, but I was supposed to turn on the recorder and forgot. I like Samba Pa Ti, too. It's one of those that's stuck in my open mind and won't get out. Everything I'm supposed to keep in mind seems to leave.
If Ovation made more bowl sizes, I'd have an excuse to get more. Still need a contour bowl. A contour bowl Legend would kill 2 birds with one stone. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Try a contour bowl Custom Legend 12 - that would have to kill at least a small flock! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | 12s don't suit my fingerpicking "style". Someday I'll have a nice 12 string, but there are at least 10 6 strings I'd rather have first. |
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Location: CT | I don't blame any kid for wanting an Alvarez after listening to an Applause or Celebrity uplugged. IMO, they suck(I'm sure I'll get some hate mail for saying that). I had a Celebrity SS bowl that sounded like cardboard. I thought that was the price you paid for stage comfort and less feedback. Boy was I wrong. I replaced it with an '83 Collectors Edition that sounds way better. I also have a 1619 Custom Legend. Both have the 'Hand Selected Spruce' - a notch above AAA and no longer an option, both have the Ovation A brace pattern - for better top response, both have ebony boards, Identical electronics etc. Essentially 2 of the same guitar, one with deep bowl w/no cutaway, one Super Shallow with cutaway. As for A/B comparison of bowls, 2 guitars can't get much closer. Tone wise, these 2 are quite similar despite the obvious bass and treble responses, but the O bowl is made more to reflect the top vibrations than to be a sound producing resonator(even though it adds to it). Thes 2 guitars sound much more similar than the '83 Collector did to the Celeb. - even though those bowls were identical. |
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Location: Orange County, California | I almost bought the "skinny twin sister" to my Classical, an 1863. Playadamas' GC classical is a bit thin around the middle. Both sound great with the right strings. But Alas, I like my guitars (sound) just like my women... Thick, Rich, and Deep!! :D |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Hey the reason we own and play these guitars is that it's fun...get it....fun. No other reason, ok playing live, performing, recording.. but hey that's all fun. I love my deep bowls, but you know what, my 1868T is a fun guitar to play. It's easy and light on the old back, and plugged in, wow. It's a fun guitar. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Musician's get to play...
Doctors and Lawyers have to practice! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Tommy M.:
It's easy and light on the old back, and plugged in, wow. It's a fun guitar. The ONLY down side,
when you're playing RnR
in a divey bar
and the audience is unruly....
you cannot use the acoustic Ovation as a weapon. Give me a Strat, Tele, or BEST a Les Paul any day!
And NO strap locks! :eek: |
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Am I the only OFC member with a 1768 Elite?