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Location: Phoenix AZ | Tony will get his #3 tomorrow. Xnoel has played it at Oklahoma Vintage. Paulmac has inspected #7 in Paris and taken extensive photographs. There will only be 47 of these and I can feel the ground swell gaining momentum. If you want one you better get in line NOW. I think Al may still have 1-2 of his orders unallocated. I called The Guitar Factory this morning. As of last Friday they had one coming that was unclimed. NO MORE - it is no longer available. Tony and/or I were going to adopt it. Ain't going to happen. I feel safe that Al's got mine covered, but if any of you are teetering, you better commit NOW or you will regret it later.
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Location: SoCal | Check it out on the internet for the usual stores...GuitarFactory was the only one I saw - they had ordered three, only going to get two. The two that they will get already have substantial deposits on them.
From what I have been told, one is going to a Los Angeles store - that's it for SoCalifornia.
So, give Al a confirm or expect to pay full list or more (if you can find one).
Not sure which (or both) Chop Shops that I will go to but I will bring serial #3 of the 47 and a 1687 Reissue... |
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Location: Malvern, Pa. | The other one should be mine, going to Georgia.
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Location: Bangkok, Thailand | how's about the blue slothead wth 2 knobs in the name of OFC guitar ?
No one talk about it lately.....
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Location: boulder | As I understand it, only about three #47's a week are rolling off the floor. And when they finish with those the OFc model will be built then. But don't bet any money on this tidbit. peace mike |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And the train keeps a rollin .....
They'll identify themselves if and when they want to, but I was informed today by TWO more OFC members that thay have purchased 47RI's. I think OFC guys will end up owning close to 20% of them which is pretty impressive. That's alomst FD14 territory.
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Location: Denver Colorado | Ok, guys. I don't know what to believe.
I told you all about a new little store in my town here that is just starting to carry some of the nicer O's - owner ordered 13 upper crust models due to come in early May. I've got first dibs on a 1778LX.
Anyway.. about the #47. I adore the looks of that one, and (who do I think I am?!?!?) asked the Kaman rep (when he was in the store when I happened to bounce in) ... about the #47 about 10 days ago. (Red is such a nice girly color! LOL) Anyway... in the course of that conversation, the store owner nor I got any sense of urgency about having to get an order in for that one - other than to say it might take 6 months (meaning 3 or 4 realistically) to get one. But NONE of this "only 47 being made" thing was communicated.
So then, after seeing this thread pop up here, I found two places that have one of these available at this time (not spoken for, anyway). Both wanted $4k.
Alrighty then.
But now... I'm feeling like I really want to support this new little store out here - I want to give them first crack at making a sale to me - so I went in there yesterday. I explained how I had read (on this board) that only 47 were going to be made and it appeared that it would be miserable to try to get one if too much time went by.
I also told the owners that I didn't think the Kaman rep did right by them - IF there are only 47 being made it appears there is an issue of urgency here. I'd like to have the sale happen here if at all possible. I told them that I felt the rep should have known the limited supply issue and supported that store - helping to possibly at least attempt to make a sale of one to me. (What a concept, huh? Rep optimizing a golden opportunity by helping a store make a sale!) Instead, nothing was said. (disappointing and weird in hindsight after seeing this thread)
Anyway, yesterday, it was too late in the day here in mountaintime land for the store to call east to see what the availability situation is for a #47. So the owner said he would contact the factory in the morning and get back to me.
Well... it gets weirder. A few minutes ago, the store owner called me to say that he talked to the guy at the factory that is all about he custom stuff. He said CLEARLY that there is no limited number of these being made (there goes the 47 units theory down the drain) and that these are being made on a custom basis - with the typical 6 month lead time being quoted. The store owner offered me one for about $3,200 with a 50% deposit down. But again... the store owner is convinced after his talk with the factory that this is not a limited run of 47.
He reiterated that this is just a custom order thing - and that the factory is not making these ahead but will make the #47 to order this year.
So.... being the resident newbie here, I feel like I'm really gonna be hit hard as being a sh*t stirrer... but what can I say? This is what I've been told.
So.. whattaya guys think? What's the straight poop here?
Inquiring minds wanna know.
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Location: closely held secret | Sally, never feel bad about expressing ignorance. It's a common pasttime around here.
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Location: Denver Colorado | Well... I think it's a weird situation.
Given my perception of this thing - if it's truly not a tight supply thing, and that these can be ordered (and who really cares if it takes a few months to get one)... it means the difference of a street price being closer to $3,000 than $4,000 for this thing.
I'm not one to tangle over saving a few bucks - it's usually not worth the hard feelings caused when you try to beat a store up over a price (and I hate being that kind of customer)... but geeeeeeee..... the difference of about $1,000 gets my attention.
Really wishing I wasn't a newbie right about now!
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Location: SoCal | Stranger things have happened.
However, I have been told (as others have been told) that 47 will be produced. Ovation doesn't have a custom shop as Martin does...considered a special order (same thing). They are being made as a single run...when done, they are done and will work on the OFC guitar.
I know of one store that had three on order, now told they can only have two. Al ordered five at the first opportunity about a year ago. Word is that all have been sold by the factory (to a dealer/distributor, not necessarily the customer). A number of them are already set for overseas.
Search the internet for dealers offering it...only find one and they have deposits for the two they will get.
I really doubt that this store can get one at this time.
As to price, sometimes you can get fortunate such as when I made a best offer on an eBay BIN. Never thought that it would be accepted. Any price under the full list is an excellent price.
I now have #3. Fortunately, I had told Al last year that I would get one from him. Unless he needs to do a favor for an OFC'er, I will be getting one from him also. They are that great. And, if I sell one later, it will be a lot more.
By the way, 50% is a lot of deposit when they aren't sure they will actually get one. The store that I mentioned earlier took $1,000 deposits on the two AFTER they had placed the order in 2005. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | Well, Tony...
The store here is convinced that they absolutely **will** get one. That's the devil of it all - they were told something today - straight from the horse's mouth according to the store owner that flies in the face of what is being said here.
And.. the store you're mentioning (if we happen to be talking about the same one - which I believe we are) ... they were going to get 2 more in, and after being blessed with a Kaman rep on their property yesterday, they're now expecting 5 more in the next few days. That was what I heard as of about an hour ago.
Kinda blows some of this theory that they are all "spoken for" all to bits, doesn't it?
My current status is that I'm going to try to get this through the store here - but I want some kind of confirmation fax from the factory stating that it is going to be made and a rough guess at delivery time. If that can't be done in the next week, I'll just mosey on over to get one from the store you're talking about. :)
And heck... what's with StandingOvation bowing out of here 5 minutes after I stir the pot? That's just not fair.
(I think this discussion is worth a post #5001, don't you?)
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Location: Australia | Well I was fairly late in ordering one and I was led to believe that all were either presold to customers or ordered by dealers.
No so. I know the Aussie O people pretty well and I asked them to specifically ask the factory if my #47 would still be made.
Yes. Order has been confirmed. No talk of only 47 units. Maybe there is a goal to build 47 and maybe they have orders for say 31. So at this point it would appear all orders are cheerfully recieved.
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Location: Tennessee | Well, I hope to hell they sell a couple of thousand of them. Bad for you buying them for investment purposes, but a strong kick in the jewels to those who don't think Ovation can build a high-priced, superior sounding guitar and sell it. |
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Location: SoCal | The store that I was referring to is GuitarFactory - just called them, nope. They are asking for more but no commitment. They just hope to get more. |
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Location: Keller, TX | Got an email from a local person who has contacts at the factory (no names...): "As of this coming monday 71 will be on b/o, 7 have shipped as of today and the order book is not closed."
So, no 47 limit. 7 out there. Order it if you want it. Price may vary. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | Thanks for chiming in Richard - if your order just happened recently, it pretty much confirms this, I would think.
If there were only going to be 47 made, I would think initial orders would have closed the availability down very quickly.
So now, inquiring minds wanna know if originally there were only going to be 47 - but then the game plan changed?
If I had been a buyer of one of the first ones with the understanding of having only one of 47 - I don't think I'd be too happy to find out that there might be over a hundred of these done this year. The difference significantly changes the street value, I would think.
I'm just gonna be one of the resident girls here to buy the thing because I think it's pretty. :)
After being told what I was told today - the price dropped an easy $800 - and probably closer to $1,000 - on this thing because of it not being in tight supply.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't know fact from ficton, but my dealer has told me the following:
1. Only 47 will be made
2. All 47 are pre-ordered by stores or distributors
3. Goal is to have the production run done by the factory summer shutdown (end July).
Could be true, could be BS. If it were me I would not wait too long. And if you can really get one for $3200. you should grab it.
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Location: SoCal | Hope there is no confusion with the Premier, the new CVT slothead. That could be a special order as it uses the production bowl. Can't believe they will intentionally overstock the bowl and neck for these.
Well, time for the factory to tell us what is up... |
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Location: Denver Colorado | Well...
This all made my heart go pitter patter this afternoon! :)
I was referring to Oklahoma Vintage Guitar. Soren told me that they were initially expecting 2 more but now they're expecting 5 more within the next 9 days.
It made sense to me to call them if they let one go on eBay like that, they might just have their dibs in on more.
Well.. if OVG is getting 5 more, my store has been told it's no problem to put an order in (with no threat of deadline coming up fast), and then we have Tom chiming in above...
Pretty much looks like the 47 units thing is a bomb.
And Dave... if all of the info that came out today is true.. I would be annoyed if I were in your shoes. If the run was only supposed to be 47 and deals were made based on that - this isn't a good thing.
For people like me who just want a gorgeous thing of joy - it's a happy day. :)
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Location: Scotland | I seem to remember a thread when the 47 reissue was first announced, where Al said that they would be built in limited quantities, to order, but not to a specific number. I tried a search but my broadband connection is flakey and it times out every time I try. It would be nice to think that there would only be 47 #47's, but from a business point of veiw it would be nuts for the factory not to build guitars for which they had orders. Regardless of the numbers I have one of the UK allocation reserved. |
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Location: SoCal | I talked to John from Oklahoma Vintage today...other than Bobby, talked to him the most. There is one guitar coming in that the rep has had (already has a deposit on it). They hope that they would get more but they have no commitments on any more. And, they had both the rep and the National Sales Manager in their store all afternoon yesterday.
No, this confusion is not good, whether 47 or 4,700. Another scenario is that an overseas distributer ordered 15, then cut back the order to 10, making 5 more available.
I am confident that we will know tomorrow. Kaman may just say limited run on the website but a number of us have been told the run is 47 (it was reinforced when I was at NAMM). My label doesn't say 3 of 47 and I didn't get the paperwork (certificate of authenticity) that was supposed to come with the guitar so no help there... |
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Location: Australia | I have the 2005 Adamas brochure and a single page #47 brochure and in neither one does it officially say that production will be limited to 47 units.
"Ovation will offer a limited quantity of #47 models".
I would think that if they planned to indeed offer only 47 guitars, they would have stated it officially as it helps create urgency among buyers.
As someone who's worked in the guitar business, I think they're hedging their bets a little.
I think that if they presell less than 47 then they will produce 47 units but if they sell more than that then well and good.
That's certainly what I would do.
As for me, I've never bought a guitar solely as an investment. I want a #47 because it's a fine and unique instrument and mine will definately be played alot. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I stopped in Milano Music after work today (they have a little experience with "slotheads"). They have 2 on order. One is already sold (it has a deposit). The other is questionable if it will really arrive or not. Therefor they are not taking a deposit on it and will sell it off the floor if and when it arrives. The sales guy "thought" there would only be 47 or 50 of them, but not sure. His rep told him you can order all you want, but there is no guarentee you'll get them. So I interpret that as meaning that there may be hundreds on backorder (or 71 as someone states), but nobody outside the factory really knows how many will see the light of day. My own gut feeling is that these are probably costing Ovation a hell of a lot more to make than they anticipated and they'd like to shut it down as soon as possible. Maybe that means after 47. I don't know. But I would guess the last thing they want to do is build a large number of guitars that make them very little margin. One dealer says they can order/get as many as they want. Another dealer (mine) says there will only be 47 of them. Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Dave |
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Location: boulder | Hi all,
I also am waiting patiently for a #47 reissue. I only put in my preorder last August, so i am down the line, so to speak. But I have 100% confidence that this guitar will be worth waiting for.
All of the anniversary series/reissues have been stellar. I have played all three (U681t/1581/1687) and all were well crafted great sounding instruments. But I am really excited, really excited to own a brand new, never played before 1187. whether there are 46 others or 99 others or more, i am still going to be happy, for years to come with the one i get to play.
Now, I can add, we were told at last years tour, that there would be 47 built. but things change.I wouldn't be mad if they built more then 47,the more music the better. --of course, this years tour just got that much better. peace mike |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My only point is/was that the longer you wait the greater the risk. This is a chance to own a reissue of the most famous adamas ever built. In cases like this it's best to err on the side of caution. I had said all along that I didn't want a 47RI (I hate the red color) and I would wait for the OFC guitar. But to me the risk of the OFC guitar is too high and I didn't want to be shut out enturely, hence the 47RI on order with Al. If the OFC guitar actually happens, great then I'll own two wonderful instruments. I would just worry like hell what could happen if I walked into my dealer next October and said "Hey, how about getting me a 47RI?" The risk of being shut out is too high. Dave |
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Location: Australia | Yep, I agree with Tuppy.
If you want one and haven't ordered one, you'd better get your skates on.
This was supposed to be a limited edition guitar for 2005, the last of the four 30th ann. Adamas models "avaliable in the 4th quarter of 2005". |
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | I just callled my rep and the factory, and was told the same, thing, no limit on production, they are doing them as custom orders after the initial run is out, and the usual deposit is 50% of retail... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Actually Greg, That is EXTREMELY good news !!! We (at least I) was told that "all 47 of them must be identical". But now that they will do custom orders we can order different colors, electronics, neck widths, cutaways, etc. Great news man. Of course being now a custom order, it'll surely cost way more but that's OK. I wish we knew this 2 months ago (I hate that freaking red like you wouldn't believe). Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for us.
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Location: Bangkok, Thailand | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Actually Greg, That is EXTREMELY good news !!! We (at least I) was told that "all 47 of them must be identical". But now that they will do custom orders we can order different colors, electronics, neck widths, cutaways, etc. Great news man. Of course being now a custom order, it'll surely cost way more but that's OK. I wish we knew this 2 months ago (I hate that freaking red like you wouldn't believe). Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for us.
Dave but u already order the 47th of #47, aren't you?
Gonna have one more slothead?
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Location: Denver Colorado | Hey - me again - the local resident pot stirrer.
:)
I feel like I've been on a roller coaster ride over these things this past month - I really just wanted an 1778LX (can get within a few weeks) and then the ME 12 string with a white pearl face (want that one by August - class reunion) - but I wanted to get the red one (I think it's gorgeous - but I'm a girl! LOL) sometime this year.
I guess what I'm saying is that a week ago - I thought I could think about getting the #47 - then with the "47 only" rumor hitting the fan, I thought I had to rethink everything and scramble for one if I wanted one.
At least now I can breathe a little and get orders in for the ME12 and the #47 and relax about it.
I'm sure looking forward to these. I miss my old Ovation 12 terribly - it was gorgeous (and never to be seen again) - but starting all over is pretty fun too.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by sally_satorri:
Hey - me again - the local resident pot stirrer. Sally, don't sell yourself short. You've done a great service here. Thanks to your digging we now know that we can custom order 47RI's. This has opened up a lot of possibilities. Thanks so much.
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Location: SoCal | I think it's gorgeous - but I'm a girl! and the gold, don't forget the gold - binding, flakes on the top and bowl, inlaids.
and you could hang all types of dangles from the epaulets.
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Location: Denver Colorado | Hmmmm.....
Quote: and the gold, don't forget the gold - binding, flakes on the top and bowl, inlaids.
and you could hang all types of dangles from the epaulets
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Hmmmm....
I used to own a bead shop. Don't get me thinking now - I could have a field day decorating the thing. LOL
(seriously, I'm thinking of making the mother-of-all-guitar-straps especially now that the #47 has got that ring instead of a pin/knob/whateveryoucallthatnormaldoohicky.)
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Sally,
What are you thinking of using to "make" your guitar strap?
We've discussed this previously, and the only really nice "Ovation-Style" strap I've seen was hand-made by another OFCer named Susan.
Here's a link she previously left for a 12-string Elite she was selling. If you scroll down the left side you'll see the strap she had made. I've never seen one as good as that, but I hope to someday have one made. Prehaps I can get one from one of the shops in Korea or Mexico. I'd like to get the same design done in something like Python or eel skin, like they do boots. :)
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | One problem I've noted with the Python strap is how it keeps on tightening....
On as for eelskin, depending on your preference, make sure you establish whether it's AC or DC.
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Location: Australia | Originally posted by GregoryS:
I just callled my rep and the factory, and was told the same, thing, no limit on production, they are doing them as custom orders after the initial run is out, and the usual deposit is 50% of retail... So much for the unique limited edition slothead.
If I knew that if I waited a few more months I'd be able to order any colour with any preamp etc, I'd I've waited and ordered a beige with electronics.
Guitar companies are good at this though.
I remember Rickenbacker releasing the Ltd Ed. Tom Petty model, with unique features only avaliable on this model for a very limited time and limited number.
What happened after the signature model was sold out, they wack a plain pickguard on and keep selling'em, except now they're actually cheaper and you can have any colour you want !
Nice.
I wonder what happens to the OFC guitar then. Originally it was said that for the factory to even consider making a small run of slotheads was a major drama.
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Customize able is good
I don't care the quantity but quality.
The more owners, The higher profit and better reputation.
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Location: Denver Colorado | bvince....
Thanks so much for the link to Susan's strap - very nice!
I'd love to have one similar to hers for the LX I'm going to get... I just need a black background.
But as far as one that I'm going to make for my signature strap, it's going to be more beaded and sculptural (at least that is what is in my head)... I'm thinking of starting a collage of times of joy in my life... times at the lake in MN, moutains of Colorado, my old bead shop, a '69 travel trailer I had... dogs... kids... log house in MN... oh the list goes on of strange stuff.. but it could be an interesting work of art when done... and maybe something my kids would appreciate down the road. I literally want one that is frameable. :)
I've seen some custom straps done on various internet pages - and I could do better given the time to goof with it.
Maybe that's my calling... to make $5,000 guitar straps for celebrities. LOL
Sally - who's mission is to go repo my Backpacker this weekend from the friend that's had it for 5 years! Nails are getting chopped on Monday. :) |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Sally,
I was thinking the same thing, as far as being able to do a better strap myself, than many of the ones I've seen. I have a pretty extensive background in art, with my main degree in graphic design. The problem is finding the time, and investing in a bunch of leatherworking tools. It would probably be easier to just design it and have someone else in a third-world country make it for me. With my luck though, he probably mass produce it and it wouldn't be my design anymore. Hey ... I used to live in Denver back in the early eighties (Stationed at Lowry AFB) and I loved it. I wish I could still be living in Colorado. You're very fortunate to be living near the rockies. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | OK... let's move the guitar strap party to new topic. Sorry for being OT.
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Location: NJ | just took delivery of 3 of these guitars.
all I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
absolutely spectacular instruments. The attention to detail is great. The center does not seem too dark in person. The guitar is light as a feather in fact it weights almost nothing I sincerly thought they sent me empty cases.
The most spectacular thing about these guitars is the sound. they are LOUD, they are consistent up and down the neck, regardless if you play cowboy chords or jazz. But what really got me was the resonance. I hit a chord and then held the top to my ear to listen for the degeneration of sound. I did not time it but it seemed like it took FOREVER To fade.
My initial reaction is that these instruments are everything they were suppose to be and then some.
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Location: SoCal | Al, welcome to the 47RI Appreciation Club.
There are a couple of guys on the OFC that every time I get another guitar ask me if the 30th Anniv Custom Legend is still my favorite (maybe it is because I have three). Even when I got the U681T, I said the Custom Legend. Check out an earlier post, this is my favorite and the finest guitar (as an acoustic) that I have.
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Location: Denver Colorado | I'm still moving my household budget numbers around in an Excel spreadsheet to figure out how I'm going to spring for one of these... LOL... I think the guitar is absolutely gorgeous...
BUT.. I had no idea it would be light (remember, I'm living vicariously though you dudes)....
So how much lighter than other guitars is it?
Lighter weight would be a big plus to me. :)
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Location: Australia | Al's ringing endorsement only adds to my anticipation.
I guess the reason for the light weight could be the fact that there is no preamp/pickup system to weigh it down. Also I think the original hand laid bowls (as used on this model) are lighter that a standard turtleback (except LX'ers of course). |
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Location: SoCal | When I grabbed the box from the DHL driver (he looked like he was going to drop it), it felt like it was empty. Feels 30-40% lighter than the 1687. For those with the JL3 (which we noticed was light), it is noticeably lighter. |
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Location: Australia | "Feels 30-40% lighter than a 1687"
That much Wow !
I must check on when mine's gonna get here. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | Hey Tony...
I've got an accurate shipping scale here - if you want to send over a couple of guitars - including the 47RI - I could spend about a week making some very scientific analyses about them and report back here.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I wonder why it's so much lighter ??? It's not just the lack of electronics. I gutted one of my Adamas 2's and one of my 1537's of all traces of electronica. They definately weigh less, but certainly not 30% less. Dave |
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Location: Scotland | Just guessing, but the lack of a K-bar may make a slight diffeence. The bowl material may reduce the weight a little also |
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Location: SoCal | The lack of a K-bar makes a HUGE difference... that puppy weighs a ton! |
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Location: NJ | The SlotHeads were(are) are incredibly light.
There's been a couple of instances where when I grabbed the case I literally had to open it and CHECK to make sure the guitar was in it . . .
I'm probably wrong, but I'd venture t'say that the tops on these were a little thinner/lighter than even the production units . . . |
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Location: So. Cal. | Using a simple postal scale (not very accurate, but same setup for all guitars):
Slothead #41 1687-8 5.4lbs (s/n 41)
1687-8 (2knobber) 6.0lbs (s/n 2649)
1689-8 (2knobber) 6.6lbs (s/n 173)
1688-8 (2knobber) 6.9lbs (s/n 2526)
U681TA 4.6lbs (proto)
1587-9 (Optima) 6.2lbs (proto)
Just a relative comparison for those who are interested. |
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Location: SoCal | Just a note on Michael's numbers...believe the U681TA was acoustic. My postal scale only goes to 5lbs so can't give you an equivalent weight of the U681T (with the OP-Pro). |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | So hypothetically speaking (thank you Sally for opening a whole new can of worms :p ), would one be able to order a 47RI WITH an electronics package, be it the two-knobber, Optima, Studio, etc? For those of us who gig regularly and need amplification, this might present a feasible justification (like we need one) to get one of these incredible instruments.
Any thoughts? |
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Location: SoCal | NO pre-amp, NO different color, NO wide neck.
Course, a number of us heard Ovation people saying "47 of the 47". :mad: :mad: :mad:
So, guess anything is possible on a limited reissue. :eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
If we ever get the OFC guitar, -8 and a/e. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Tony, I'm with you there, though my memory is slipping on which color -8 is...
For studio recording, obviously, you could externally mic the 47RI, and you've mentioned how much power and tone it has naturally. Would you think that it would be possible to externally mic it for live gigs, particularly amongst a full band? |
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Location: SoCal | -8 is the blue burst.
external mike worked for the old folk singers (unless the wind was blowing) but this (IMHO) is where a pre-amp is necessary.
the U681T (OP-Pro) or the CVT Premier would work a heck of a lot better and still give the slothead sound.
this is why the OFC (if, if, if) would be an a/e. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Thanks for the input. Maybe I'll see about stashing something away for the OFC if it happens. The blue burst would be nice, though I'd take it in beige, red, black, or about any other color I've ever seen on an Adamas. My 1881 is a rich nutmeg color, which I haven't seen too many of, a version of which could also be cool on an Adamas 1 - like guitar. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | >>>thank you Sally for opening a whole new can of worms<<<
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Anytime. I believe I was summoned by the guitar gods to come to this board to be the official sh*t stirrer.
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Give me another week or two, and I'll have a reputation to maintain. :)
No frilly curtains required...
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Location: Cicero, NY | I always thought we were one shy of a full deck here, Sally. Thanks for picking up the slack. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by playadamas:
Using a simple postal scale (not very accurate, but same setup for all guitars):
Slothead #41 1687-8 5.4lbs (s/n 41)
U681TA 4.6lbs (proto)
Michael, what about one of your Martins? My 681 is the same as yours (acoustic only, although slightly different top) and to me the martins seem to weigh far less than even the 681. Do you agree?
Dave
PS - By the way, a 6x10X3 inch tupperware filled with leftover lasagna weighs 3.8 lbs. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Tupperware:
PS - By the way, a 6x10X3 inch tupperware filled with leftover lasagna weighs 3.8 lbs. Not for long in my house, it doesn't. |
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Location: boulder | 2080 for the road, 47RI for the home studio.
and the wind at your back... |
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Location: closely held secret | "and the wind at your back..."
Is that a sailing thing? Cause whenever I'm riding my motorcycle, the wind's in my face. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Originally posted by Waskel:
"and the wind at your back..."
Is that a sailing thing? Cause whenever I'm riding my motorcycle, the wind's in my face. In sailing terms, running before the wind, e.g. with the wind at your back, presents the smoothest, calmest ride of any vessel orientation relative to the wind. Not the fastest by any stretch, but the most comfortable by most measures. |
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Location: closely held secret | Hmmm, thanks, Chat.
I'm not sure I want to know what it feels like to have "the wind at my back" when I'm doing 65 on my Goldwing. :eek: |
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Location: SoCal | Okay, a little disclaimer here...I already have # 3 and another on order through Al. However, I am always curious...
Checked with two high volume internet retailers - one at $3,999.99 and another higher. Both had no stock and they had no idea when (or if) they would get their orders in...one had two on order, the other had three.
You have seen my comments (finest acoustic I have played), Bill's, and the crew that got to check a couple out during the tour.
If you possibly can, get one of these. You will not regret it.
And, IMHO, you all know which dealer I highly recommend ;) |
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