Country Artist
Capo Guy
Posted 2006-05-03 3:25 PM (#256295)
Subject: Country Artist



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Hi,

I finally got a Country Artist. :D

I had one in the early 80's but foolishly sold it.

Got on ebay for $400 + shipping.

The top is in perfect shape. Electronics work fine.

The only issues I found were:

1. Missing one TRC screw.
2. Cracked Volume knob

#1 Trip to Lowes.

#2 Kim Keller has solved via U.S. Mail.

Now just so you can drool.


This is a player I plan on using it a lot. :D

Hate to gloat and run but,
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-03 3:31 PM (#256296 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Wow, congratulations. Very nice instrument for a GREAT price. I know you won't get rid of it this time around ...

dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-05-03 4:15 PM (#256297 - in reply to #256295)
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That picture could be calendar material. Good job!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-05-03 4:20 PM (#256298 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist



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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Wow, congratulations. Very nice instrument for a GREAT price. I know you won't get rid of it this time around ...

dave
I've sent information to your serial number list.

It's as good as the one "Standing something" used to have. :D
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rick endres
Posted 2006-05-03 4:24 PM (#256299 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Mike, that is a beautiful instrument (fortunately, you can't slobber on e-mail)! And the setting is so cool, too. Where'd you take the picture? That almost looks like a CD cover.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-03 5:17 PM (#256300 - in reply to #256295)
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Congrats, Mike! It's a beauty!

Of course, you didn't have to go through the drama of buying a decapitated one then waiting to see what actually comes back from CT. That added a lot to the excitement for me.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-05-03 5:28 PM (#256301 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist



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Originally posted by rick endres:
Mike, that is a beautiful instrument (fortunately, you can't slobber on e-mail)! And the setting is so cool, too. Where'd you take the picture? That almost looks like a CD cover.
Front yard. Can't you see the weeds and the fact I need to mow more and post less. :D
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rick endres
Posted 2006-05-03 5:32 PM (#256302 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Like a friend of mine always says, "As long as it's green, it's okay. At least there aren't any bare spots. Nice wall.

Anyway, congrats on the guitar!
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-03 5:51 PM (#256303 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Beautiful.

So when will mine turn that colour? It looks like an anaemic albino next to that beauty.

What strings will you use?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-03 6:29 PM (#256304 - in reply to #256295)
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Soo-wheat!
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v74
Posted 2006-05-03 6:58 PM (#256305 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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good price + nice G
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-03 8:53 PM (#256306 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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What year? Seems to be a bunch of 73s around. I've grown attached to mine, although I was initially disappointed with it because it was a little beat up. Work on Classical Gas. It was meant to be played on a CA.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-05-03 9:16 PM (#256307 - in reply to #256295)
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I checked the S/N reference page which puts it 1979. The S/N 184698.

The other one I had was from about that time.

This one shows some wear on the fret board on the first 2 frets and ther is some wear on the bridge where the loop from tieing the strings too tight. It's funny but I have an old Ovation Owners Manual which states that the loop should be loose and the wrapped end is what holds the string.

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BobbyJ
Posted 2006-05-03 9:32 PM (#256308 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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How do you do it? The description there is how I've been stringing them for years.

Bobby
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Tom_CA
Posted 2006-05-04 2:25 AM (#256309 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Congratulations, this is a really fine instrument!

tom
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-05-04 6:44 AM (#256310 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist



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Originally posted by schroeder:
Beautiful.

So when will mine turn that colour? It looks like an anaemic albino next to that beauty.

What strings will you use?
The color of the top is great I'm not sure why some tops darken like that. The only other finish as good as an aged natural is the sunburst but they are far and few between and are worth a lot more.

I usually put D'Addario EJ46 Hard Tension strings on.
I'm thinking of trying the EJ46C Hard Tension Composites on this time.

Anyone got other suggestions.
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Tom_CA
Posted 2006-05-04 7:38 AM (#256311 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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I put EJ46C on my Artist 6773LX and I'm completely happy with them.

tom
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Jeff
Posted 2006-05-04 10:34 AM (#256312 - in reply to #256295)
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Nice guitar... Congrats! :)
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-04 6:43 PM (#256313 - in reply to #256295)
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I just don't like hard tension strings on the standard scale neck. On a classical fine but I like the mediums a lot more on the Artist - so does Serge and he's a real guitar player.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-04 6:45 PM (#256314 - in reply to #256295)
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Thanks, Schroeder. I have a set of each and I'll try the hard tension on the Classic and the others on the CA, if I ever get around to changing them.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-04 6:58 PM (#256315 - in reply to #256295)
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It was not my intention to be helpful. It was an accident.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-04 11:51 PM (#256316 - in reply to #256295)
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If you change them for me, I'll give you a cold beer. Oops, forgot. I'll warm it up for you.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-05 6:46 PM (#256317 - in reply to #256295)
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American beer is served sub-zero so you can't taste it. Please don't warm it on my account.
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tdeej
Posted 2006-05-05 7:20 PM (#256318 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Frequency varies inversely with length. I'll continue to put high tensions on the short scale and normals on the long scale.
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tdeej
Posted 2006-05-05 7:28 PM (#256319 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Doing a quick calculation between a 24.5"(CA) scale and a 26"(1763) scale gives approximately 11% more tension on the 26" scale tuned to the same pitch. (Tension varies directly to the square of the length)


Bottom line, if you like it, who care about the science.
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TWA
Posted 2006-05-05 9:57 PM (#256320 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Originally posted by schroeder:
American beer is served sub-zero so you can't taste it. Please don't warm it on my account.
Mass-produced American beer has no taste, cold or warm.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-05-05 11:06 PM (#256321 - in reply to #256295)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
American beer is served sub-zero so you can't taste it. Please don't warm it on my account.
I got Belgian ale on ice just wait fer ya.
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leftovertion
Posted 2006-05-06 12:02 AM (#256322 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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Aren't the Country Artists 25" scale length?

24.5 is very short for nylon strings...
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tdeej
Posted 2006-05-06 12:21 AM (#256323 - in reply to #256295)
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Leftovertion, you're right. I've got Gibson short scale on the brain today. They spec out at 25.25. The tension difference is only about 5.5%. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-06 6:22 PM (#256324 - in reply to #256295)
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I agree it ought to be the other way round but it's just never felt/sounded right on my CA. The hard tension never sound in tune once you get close to the twelfth fret and beyond it it takes forever to make it sound right. Maybe it's just my guitar or my inability to tune a guitar properly, but I also think the medium tensions sound better. Warmer and less twangy when you play single lines high up.
Fred?
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-05-06 6:55 PM (#256325 - in reply to #256295)
Subject: Re: Country Artist


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On a short scale, Yup!! and low tension sets can have (several did on my 1763) intonation problems on long scale classicals. Even in the "money chords". it's like if you stretch them that far, they don't resonate right or something. I I agree that normal tensions tend to be warmer an fuller sounding on single notes. If they have high mass, they will have more sustain and get the top moving more.

A modern ale is commonly defined by the strain of yeast used and the fermenting temperature.

Strain of Yeast: An ale yeast is normally considered to be a top-fermenting yeast, though a number of British brewers, such as Fullers and Weltons, use ale yeast strains that settle at the bottom. Common features of ale yeasts regardless of top or bottom fermentation is that they ferment more quickly than lager yeasts, they convert less of the sugar into alcohol (giving a sweeter, fuller body) and they produce more esters (which give a fruity taste) and diacetyl (which gives a buttery taste).

Fermenting Temperature: Ale is typically fermented at higher temperatures than lager beer (15–23°C, 60–75°F). Ale yeasts at these temperatures produce significant amounts of esters and other secondary flavor and aroma products, and the result is a beer with slightly "fruity" compounds resembling but not limited to apple, pear, pineapple, banana, plum or prune.

When served "nearly frozen", all you can taste is cooked barley and hops.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-06 7:03 PM (#256326 - in reply to #256295)
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Fred you know everything about two of the three things I'm interested in. If you were a girl you'd have 'em all covered.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-05-06 7:14 PM (#256327 - in reply to #256295)
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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
When served "nearly frozen", all you can taste is cooked barley and hops.
That would be every beer served anywhere is the USA then.

It's getting difficult to find great ale in the UK, not because it's not brewed here, just that the corporate bean counters prefer to sell generic bland mass-produced shite. (Spot any comparisons with the music retail industry here?) There are micro breweries all over the states brewing British-style beers that can rival almost anything brewed over here. (Apart from Tim Taylor's Landlord, obviously.) But then you go and fuck it up completely by serving it so cold it makes your teeth fall out.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-06 7:15 PM (#256328 - in reply to #256295)
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I've seen Fred. He's nowhere close.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-06 7:21 PM (#256329 - in reply to #256295)
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ttenn :D

Paul - You should move south to where the real beer is brewed. Within 30 miles of this house are the breweries of Fullers, Youngs, Shepherd Neame and Harveys. It really is beer heaven. And between them they own most of the pubs around here as well. And you can buy Timothy Taylor in Waitrose.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-05-06 7:41 PM (#256330 - in reply to #256295)
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Shroed, I had a pub on Tower Bridge Road in London for several years and sold Fullers and Youngs. I used to organise brewery tours for the regulars. Drinking Youngs bitter from the tap room at Wandsworth is a unique experience. There are great regional brewers all over the UK. There's around a dozen smallish/micro breweries in my area, all of whom produce great beer. It's just unfortunate that it involves a hunt to find pubs which sell the stuff. Bottled beer from a supermarket doesn't count, sorry. By definition, anything pastuerised is no longer "real" beer.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-07 10:06 AM (#256331 - in reply to #256295)
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"Shroed, I had a pub on Tower Bridge Road in London for several years "

These guys have NO IDEA how hard this makes you. I had you down as a Geordie puff but I'm re-thinking.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-07 10:08 AM (#256332 - in reply to #256295)
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PS - I used to live just around the corner from the Ram Brewery and used to drink in the Tap Room all the time. I drove past there yesterday and it is looking very sad since they stopped brewing there. And the Brewery Tap now looks like the pub from hell.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-05-07 11:04 AM (#256333 - in reply to #256295)
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Originally posted by schroeder:


These guys have NO IDEA how hard this makes you.
Not really, it was right on the Bridge so compared to the depths of Bermondsey it was very civilised. So you're right I'm a big softie. I ran a pub in Streatham for a while. That place redefined my concept of "rough"

I didn't know they'd closed the Ram brewery. That's a great shame. They were one of the very last brewers who still employed coopers, there's probably only Samuel Smiths left who do. Do you know who owns or brews Youngs now?

At the tour remind me to tell you the story about my pub, a Jimmy Buffet CD and 700 Kilos of Columbian marching powder. It's a corker.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-05-07 11:32 AM (#256334 - in reply to #256295)
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schroeder
Posted 2006-05-07 2:08 PM (#256335 - in reply to #256295)
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And your point is?

Youngs still own Youngs. they just got a more modern brewery and the value of all that land right in the middle of Wandsworth proved just too tempting. I think they are just cashing in on the real estate.
After Wandsworth we moved to Tooting Bec about 300 yards from the Streatham border. One of us has been stalking the other for years.
700 kilos? You could afford to buy an Adamas in England at list price.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-07 10:16 PM (#256336 - in reply to #256295)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
After Wandsworth we moved to Tooting Bec about 300 yards from the Streatham border.
Woody? They think we have funny names for our towns!
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-07 11:12 PM (#256337 - in reply to #256295)
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Balderdash, and all that rot, eh!


When my ancesters where forced out at gunpoint they took all the good names with them!
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-08 7:25 AM (#256338 - in reply to #256295)
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I don't know... Tooting Bec is at least as good as Pysht.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-08 8:56 AM (#256339 - in reply to #256295)
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Pysht!

Now there's a good trivia question!

Ran across that going out to Cape Alava/Lake Ozette to look at the historical graffiti/petroglyphs.
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