Is This Guy Kidding?!!!
Jeff
Posted 2006-05-06 12:49 AM (#255916)
Subject: Is This Guy Kidding?!!!


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http://cgi.ebay.com/Like-New-Ovation-Classical-Electric-1613-4-Guit...

:eek:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-06 1:00 AM (#255917 - in reply to #255916)
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No, just_____. He has some nice rocks for sale cheap, though. What do you expect from someone from Iowa, a mint condition 1681??
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tdeej
Posted 2006-05-06 1:03 AM (#255918 - in reply to #255916)
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price? 50 plus classical collection?
Oh the entertainment value of ebay.
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HoHo
Posted 2006-05-06 1:18 AM (#255919 - in reply to #255916)
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Shipping only $148.50...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-05-06 1:22 AM (#255920 - in reply to #255916)
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I never knew Glen Campbell designed the Ovation classical... I did know his mom worked in the factory building them....
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-06 8:46 AM (#255921 - in reply to #255916)
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It's a very nice guitar, just that it doesn't quite live up to the guys description. I predict no bids. Dave
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2006-05-06 1:31 PM (#255922 - in reply to #255916)
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All it takes is ONE at that price level....but I agree with Dave.

Roger
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-05-06 1:57 PM (#255923 - in reply to #255916)
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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
I agree with Dave.

I thought that we had put an end to this with the timely death standing O? :p :D :p

I think I should be able to get at least $3K for my 1763. It's only got one ding, one finsih crack, Oh and it's an FRG, but it has ebony tuners, "very special" strings, and sounds great... :rolleyes:
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-05-06 2:14 PM (#255924 - in reply to #255916)
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I emailed a question to the guy about the price he quoted he paid for the guitar and case 20 years ago....his reply...

KISS MY A__!

LOL
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Davek1076
Posted 2006-05-06 2:20 PM (#255925 - in reply to #255916)
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Well, at least he's freindly!! :D
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-06 3:02 PM (#255926 - in reply to #255916)
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LOL....

Well... the dude dropped his shipping to $86.50 What a bargain! Not.

Then... did you guys take a look at his previous feedback? When I looked at the whole basic attitude, it looks like he's REAL PROUD of the stuff he owns. Lots of complaints of his stuff being less of a quality than in the ad....

He also has more than a few complaints about dings and defects in stuff and then blames the buyers. I personally don't believe that many buyers damage their goods right after buying.

Definitely not a nice person - I'd pass on anything this guy had to sell.

Methinks he's been out in the sun too long in his cornfield.
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vcnyls
Posted 2006-05-06 5:08 PM (#255927 - in reply to #255916)
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Frankly I'm supprised that the guy is letting go of these gems for such a low price! I'd think he could get at least a grand for such high quality tape:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Half-Dozen-60-yard-Rolls-Scotch-3-4-...
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Mike O
Posted 2006-05-06 11:47 PM (#255928 - in reply to #255916)
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If you list it ....they will come....
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-05-07 1:50 AM (#255929 - in reply to #255916)
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LOL!

I just got THIS letter from this nut...

Listen up Greg, if you have nothing better to do than to belong to an "Out of Date" Guitar Fan Club and spend hours composing a letter in a vain attempt to build yourself up, you're wasting your time my friend.
Guess this guy really knows his guitars...after all, he has 50 classicals! I sent him the spreadsheet that Ovation put out showing the retail prices on guitar that they have built from 71-05...don't guess he appreciated the gesture :D
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-07 3:03 AM (#255930 - in reply to #255916)
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Ever had really old masking tape that won't unwind without tearing?

LOL

"new" doesn't equate to "good".
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First Alternate
Posted 2006-05-07 7:15 AM (#255931 - in reply to #255916)
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He won't sell it to anyone who knows anything about guitars, certainly not to anyone who knows anything about Ovations. I suppose he's thinking SOMEbody might plunk down $2500 for this thing, let's see what happens.

I would have no interest at any price in a guitar offered by someone who is selling it in addition to a lot of other "stuff" on ebay. His 49 other classicals are probably just part of the inventory he's churning.

His shipping has come down to sixty-something dollars, though. That baby's gonna fly out of there any day now.
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couchflyer
Posted 2006-05-07 12:07 PM (#255932 - in reply to #255916)
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The guy is an idiot. However if someone bids and pays him that price he's brilliant. That being said most of the time the bidding goes to the value of the item. If it is a $2400 item the bidding will get there, it not it wont.
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-08 10:26 AM (#255933 - in reply to #255916)
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Just e-mailed the guy and told him it wasn't worth half of what he was asking. I'm waiting eagerly for the firey response. :D We should all flood him with questions of his sanity, and maybe he'll amarten up.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 10:31 AM (#255934 - in reply to #255916)
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Half is way too much. The $300 case cost twice the list price. It probably included his plane ticket.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-08 10:37 AM (#255935 - in reply to #255916)
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Seeing crap like this sure makes it sound easier to sell a pair of Air Guitars!

Remember when certain characters used to sell cars by smashing the windshield with a sledge hammer or their dog Spot had sharp claws and a mane?
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 10:40 AM (#255936 - in reply to #255916)
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I'm imagining this guy lying awake at night trying to figure out his next shipping cost strategy!

He's probably all excited about the interest in his item - given he's up to almost 300 hits on the dumb thing now. Too bad most of those are probably from us idiots in this outdated fan club, huh?
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 10:42 AM (#255937 - in reply to #255916)
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OH.....

Did you guys catch that he took out a loan for this one but it's only been played 4 times since '76?

Maybe that loan is due, 'eh?
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-05-08 10:52 AM (#255938 - in reply to #255916)
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Yeah, because if I paid that much for a guitar in '76, of COURSE I'd only play it four times in the next 30 years.

If someone does bid on this, I will be forever amazed at the depth of human stupidity.
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 11:00 AM (#255939 - in reply to #255916)
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"If someone does bid on this" ....

Can you say "SHILL"?!?!?!
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couchflyer
Posted 2006-05-08 11:00 AM (#255940 - in reply to #255916)
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I bid on that air guitar, wasn't it real :eek:
Cheers
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bvince
Posted 2006-05-08 11:53 AM (#255941 - in reply to #255916)
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I just sent him an email asking if he could tell me what the resale value was on this guitar. I can't wait to see if he takes the hook.
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-08 12:00 PM (#255942 - in reply to #255916)
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[QB] Just e-mailed the guy and told him it wasn't worth half of what he was asking.

I got it back. He said I wasn't worth half that amount. LoL
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 12:25 PM (#255943 - in reply to #255916)
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Maybe somebody should email him the URL to the Millenium that just went off the auction block last night .... See if he thinks that box of his compares to that one.

Took out a loan for it but never practiced with it..... just cracks me up. Since when were guitars not meant to be played?!?!?

The "flagship" of his collection that he never hardly used. Yeah... makes a whooooole lotta sense.
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-05-08 12:34 PM (#255944 - in reply to #255916)
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Agreed, Sally. How would you even know it's your flagship if you've only played it four times?

Somebody must've told him it was...
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-08 12:36 PM (#255945 - in reply to #255916)
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I love Ovations, but if this is the 'flagship' of his collection of 50 classical guitars, I guess he has 49 other pieces of crap.
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 12:51 PM (#255946 - in reply to #255916)
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Too bad he isn't doing the "best offer" thing...

I'd throw $100 at him.

:)
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-08 1:09 PM (#255947 - in reply to #255916)
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Don't forget to add 300.00 for the custom ordered case!
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bvince
Posted 2006-05-08 2:20 PM (#255948 - in reply to #255916)
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Ican't believe this guy! Here's his response when I asked him what the used value on the guitar was ... (he answered my email right away with this ...)


"It all depends on the condition of the guitar.
A typical Ovation like this in average condition after 30 years might bring as little as 1,500., on the other hand, an Ovation like this one in Like New condition can range as high as 3-4 grand. Its always a subjective value according to the collector, the supply & the demand."

What a Loser!!!
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bvince
Posted 2006-05-08 2:24 PM (#255949 - in reply to #255916)
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Hey! Let's see who can ask him the most outrageous question, and who can provoke the best answers from him.

(:
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 2:39 PM (#255950 - in reply to #255916)
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I'm game. Let me go pop him with the Millenium question.

Tee hee.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-05-08 3:14 PM (#255951 - in reply to #255916)
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You guys oughta go get a life, or at least get some work done today.....
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-08 3:32 PM (#255952 - in reply to #255916)
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...and what are you doing? Research?
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-08 4:13 PM (#255953 - in reply to #255916)
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While that would be extremely funny, it wouldn't give a good image of the OFC.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-08 4:17 PM (#255954 - in reply to #255916)
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Originally posted by brainslag:
While that would be extremely funny, it wouldn't give a good image of the OFC.
You mean, Moody actually doing research, right?
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 4:18 PM (#255955 - in reply to #255916)
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Agreed.

We've been bad. Very baaaaaaaaad.

For the record, I didn't email him yet (because I was getting some work done!)...

I guess it was just a humorous idea to take a little frustration out on this guy instead of a few customers that are making me crazy today over really petty stuff.

I'll behave now.
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TRboy
Posted 2006-05-08 4:24 PM (#255956 - in reply to #255916)
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I emailed him and asked if he had a Buy-It-Now price.....check it out!

Buy-me-NOW
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-08 4:39 PM (#255957 - in reply to #255916)
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Still has the Original Ovation Strings and they still Look & play like New
Gotta wonder about someone trying to sell a nylon string guitar for 5 times it's value, and bragging that it has 30 YEAR OLD STRINGS on it.

I think we should report him to Ebay for gross stupidity.
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bvince
Posted 2006-05-08 4:46 PM (#255958 - in reply to #255916)
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The really sad thing about all this is that there is probably some really ignorant person out there that would fall for all this. I really believe this guy is just fishing for someone like that.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-05-08 5:57 PM (#255959 - in reply to #255916)
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Well, Ebay itself is a reputable business. I'm sure they wouldn't want themselves associated with this kind of creep. Maybe just a little "Word in someone's ear" (with a link to this thread?) would convince them to boot this vendor.....
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gh1
Posted 2006-05-08 6:13 PM (#255960 - in reply to #255916)
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Originally posted by fillhixx:
Well, Ebay itself is a reputable business. I'm sure they wouldn't want themselves associated with this kind of creep. Maybe just a little "Word in someone's ear" (with a link to this thread?) would convince them to boot this vendor.....
Whereas this guy is definitely a low class creep showing very bad decorum, at BEST -- i doubt that what he is doing is against eBay rules or anything.

It would be sad if anybody fell for this type of tactic -- but "there's a sucker born every day" and plenty of sharks to eat them -- just the way it is.

Just my opinion, but i just shake my head and move on. Why waste any time on it?

_____
gh1
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 6:24 PM (#255961 - in reply to #255916)
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Ya gotta wonder if he kept that baby up there for about 3-4 months if someone might just bite?

Seriously. It's a numbers game.

As far as eBay being a "reputable" business... I'd like to know exactly what the definition of "reputable" is. If it means "big" - Yes.

Otherwise, I think eBay has got to be about as evil of a business (or more so!) as most pawn shops.

JMO
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-05-08 6:31 PM (#255962 - in reply to #255916)
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"Nothing is right or wrong but thinking makes it so."
Shapespeare.

I suppose a lot depends on your point of view. I've only ever bought stuff from pawnshops, never pawned. Might make a difference of opinion.
.......................................
Same is money itself is neither good nor bad, though either can be done with it.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-05-08 6:49 PM (#255963 - in reply to #255916)
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I guess I don't understand the ruckus really. Beauty (and value) are in the eyes of the beholder. I think $30,000 for an old Fender or Gibson is ridiculous.

What Antiques Road show....yikes the price people are willing to pay for...Junk.

Or my buddy who bought a 69 Z-28 for over $30K. I am like, man you could have bought a relatively new Vette for that much money.

If the guy sells it, more power to him. If he doesn't, he can always console himself that he still owns his $2500, $400 guitar.

Ebay is all about the ridiculous sometimes...
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Pot_Stirrer
Posted 2006-05-08 6:53 PM (#255964 - in reply to #255916)
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My deal with pawn shops is that you ***know*** that alot of the stuff is stolen.

I've never bought from one.
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Sleepy Eyes McGee
Posted 2006-06-06 4:29 PM (#255965 - in reply to #255916)
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Yes....he's STILL trying to sell this guitar. Came down almost 1k!! I had asked him about the $300 case and this was his response: "This is a Custom made case from the Ovation Factory for that Classical Electric Ovation Guitar." Maybe an offer of $500 will take guitar and case home.
:rolleyes:
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Waskel
Posted 2006-06-06 4:50 PM (#255966 - in reply to #255916)
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Go to the link at the beginning of this thread, and just follow the 'relisted' links. It's like watching the Titanic go down...
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stephent28
Posted 2006-06-06 5:01 PM (#255967 - in reply to #255916)
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hmmmmm, dropping about $100 a week.

I will be ready to buy this one around August :D
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-06-06 5:58 PM (#255968 - in reply to #255916)
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JeffreyD: "I think $30,000 for an old Fender or Gibson is ridiculous."

On December 23, 2005, a second owner '51 Telecaster sold for $50,869.99 on eBay.

However, this one had the original leather strap.
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scartozi
Posted 2006-06-06 8:00 PM (#255969 - in reply to #255916)
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Seems as though his price has come down quite a bit. This is my favorite part....

"Has 2 tiny 2 inch hairline finish cracks below the bridge, common to all Ovations from temperature change. This Ovation is totally Immaculate. It has been owned and stored in its case by me and I am the original owner. NOT A SINGLE SCRATCH OR BLEMISH OF ANY SORT."

Ummmmmmm.....don't 2 2inch finish cracks mean that it does have a blemish, maybe 2 blemishes. I can tell that EVERYTHING this guy has is the best. Looser
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cliff
Posted 2006-06-06 8:04 PM (#255970 - in reply to #255916)
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Down2TheC
Posted 2006-06-07 8:17 AM (#255971 - in reply to #255916)
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Interesting market strategy... start pricing at insane and slowly come down until there's a nibble. (or a sucker that is.)
I've saved suckers on ebay before by sending links to bidders. They're quite appreciative when their eyes are opened. I may have to keep this one on my watch list.
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