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Location: south east Michigan | The way I figure you should be well into it right about now!
Is Dave behaving himself? And how long did it take for him to break out the uke?
Have fun guys.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | i think the French are more liberal when it comes to taking clothes off. I'm not sure I wanna know...
'Freddie and the French Fries', perhaps? |
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Location: NJ | Naked Guys and FrenchFry Cooking sounds potentially "dangerous" . . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | New day in France and no reports from Jerome or Witko :eek: |
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Location: Paris/France | That day was magic for us!!!!
Everybody was nude, running and playing in the garden...
It's very common in France... :D
First, we were so happy and proud to have Dave as "guest star".
He's so kind and so nice!!!(It's 7.00AM and Dave still sleeping)
Because we're French, the day has began with a BBQ with foods and wines.
During the afternoon, there was a lot of sun, music, Ovation guitars and of course a Ukulele...
We have made lots of photos and videos.
Here are the first pics.
I must leave you for now because I have to go to the "boulangerie" to take some "croissants" for Dave's breakfast. ;)
J :)
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Location: SoCal | very nice... |
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Location: south east Michigan | Wow. That is quite a nice gathering of guitars....and people too! |
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Location: SoCal | Wow! 2 47 RI's!
Looks like a lot of fun. Interesting that Dave was one of the tallest people there...... |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Wow! What a great bunch of guitars!
Oh, look, there are people in the picture too.
It must have been a blast! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Holy Merde!! |
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Location: France | It was a lot of fun.
Just a perfect day with lots of guitars and nice guys.
Dave came with one uke and went back home with two....
It was very nice to finally meet Dave, he's a very nice person and not doubt a great US ambassador.
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Location: France | Oh, btw I almost forgot to say that the 47RI is an amazing guitar, it not only looks beautifull but the sound is amazing.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Bonjour everyone! The weekend is sadly over and I do not even know how to START to describe the 2 days experience I have just had. Absolutely wonderful in everyway!
I must first thank my good friend Jerome. His hospitality and kindness and beyond words. Yes he made sure my coffee and croissant was waiting when I awoke. And he paid so much attention to every detail of my visit. I and truely blessed to have him as my friend.
The guitar gathering tool place at the home of Pascal. I arrived as a stranger and left (at 2 am) feeling like part of his family! Pascal, his family and all the friends who were there made me feel so welcome. I was not a stranger in a strange land, I was just another one of the "guys". OK, I was the one who did not speak French. But so what? Language is only one small part of who we are. I was accepted into the home of Pascal and into the arms of so many wonderful people. It would take me many pages to write about all the wonderful foods and drinks (this is France, remember). I left feel good, full, and very very happy for the experience.
I'll post some photos and things when I get back to the US, but let me back up and tell some things about the weekend and hopefully you can sense just a little bit of how much fun it was for me. Early on Saturday morning I drove to Antwerp to get the high speed bullet train to Paris. I allowed plenty of extra time and was at the station about 1 hour early. It was a beautiful sunny morning, so I sat on a bench inside the station and to pass the time I started to play a little bit on my ukulele. My backpack and ukulele case sat in front of me on the floor. After a few minutes a man walked by, reached in his pocket and put a 1 euro coin in my case! He thought I was playing or begging for money! How funny. I knew at this point that this would be a special weekend. I eventually boarded the train and in less than 2 hours I was at Paris Nord station. Waiting for me on the platform was Jerome. It was easy to spot him because he looks just like his phtotos, minus the Adamas that is usually in his hands.
Jerome was happy to see me and immediately I find that his English is nearly perfect. It seemed like we were old friends for many years. None of the awkward moments you usually have when you meet someone new in a strange land. It was like coming to visit my brother. After a short cab ride through crazy crowded streets of Paris we arrived at the apartment of Jerome when we picked up 4 guitar cases and loaded his car for the trip to Pascal. There was some big traffic jams on the highway, but we managed to break free and in about 45 minutes were in the suburbs of Paris and arrived to the home of Pascal. It was easy to locate his house because of the photograph of 47RI hanging on his front gate.
I met many of the guys and also of Pascal and his family. Some of the people you know from this board, Tom and Eduard. Everyone was very friendly and made me feel so welcome. We carried the guitars into Pascal music room where I see 47RI #13 sitting on a stand. What the hell? Pascal has a 47RI ??? YUP. He just got it. We would have TWO 47RI at this party. Oh my goodness ....
We didn't start playing music immediately. The party was gathered in Pascal back yard and lots of small talk, joking, drinking, etc. Everyone went out of their way to speak to me in English which I really appreciated (but was also embarrased that most of us stupid americans never take the time to learn other languages). The grill was going and lots of good BBQ foods and salads started arriving in front of me. Just like a typical american BBQ except instead of salsa we had goose liver and instead of budwieser we had french wines!
After the good BBQ lunch we started bring out the guitars. The collection of guitars (as you saw above in Jeromes photos) was AMAZING. Honestly, this was one of the finest collections I have EVER seen, ANYWARE. Not only were there TWO 47RI (#10, #13), but we had ALL FOUR of the reissues (47RI, U681, Adamas2, Adamas1). I have never personally seen all four in one place at the same time. On top of that we had FD14, Custom Legend, Adamas2, Adamas2 WIDENECK, a couple more Adamas1, a 2005 Collector, etc., etc. This was TRUELY AMAZING. Yes there was one ukulele!
Even MORE impressive than the guitars were the talent of the plays. MAN OH MAN, these guys could PLAY. I don't even know how to describe it. I was truely in awe of their skills. Each time somebody would play I would think "he is the best", and then the next person would be even BETTER. And then they would team up and just BLOW MY MIND. I strummed along a little and played some uke, but basically I was heppy just to sit and be entertained. Pascal gave me his CD that I am listening to right now on my laptop. Truely amazing. Even the electric guitars (nice stratocasters) came out and did some blues jamming. Wonderful stuff.
The highlighgt of my visit was two very special gifts that were prepared for me. You'll have to see pictures to fully appreciate it, but it is clear that even in English-French translation these guys know I am kind of a joker. SOOOO, my first very special gift, presented to me from Jerome is a beautiful plaque and certificate honoring my attendence at this French Ovation Fans gathering. On the placque is mounted a beautiful golden color disk with Ovation rosette. On closer inspection you see that the "disk" is actually a Tupperware lid !!! I almost pee in pants laughing. This will for sure be displayed on the wall of my music room. My second gift was a very special hand made ukulele by Tom (Tom_CA). He built it entirely himself and it is a round back. Very beautiful. The neck is hand carved and personally fretted by Tom (using magic marker). The body consists of (guess what?) a Tupperware bowl! YES, I finally have my Tupperware ukulele. Tom completely engineered the neck/bowl attachment himself. It's a VERY impressive job and he even strung it for me. Merci Tom !!!
So as the sun started to set on a wonderful Saturday I thought the event was almost over. But NO. Out comes a HUGE and MAGNIFICENT meal prepared by all the women. It was AMAZING. And of course more and more wines. I lost track, but after diner there was even more drinks, and some sweet licquers and some very strong stuff that said 46% on it. My memory of the details is starting to run out. I do rememeber at some point there was a drum set involved. Amazing just to wander from one guitar to the next. And these were ALL THE BEST ADAMAS YOU COULD WANT. More jamming and then finally a camp fire in the backyard. Did we really go to the neighbor at midnight and steal wood? I guess so. Marshmellows and more strong drinks. It's becoming a blur. Fortunately Jerome was well fueled on espresso and we made it safely back to his flat at something like 230 am.
I slept like a rock until 10am and awoke to a wonderful breakfast with Jerome followed by some jamming on his great guitars. The 47RI is just stunning. I have now played 5 of them and all I can say is IF you have any chance to buy one of these guitars and if you are blessed with the funds to do it, YOU MUST BUY ONE.
Jerome and I spent the afternoon in beautiful weather seeing some of the sites in Paris. Just a wonderful time on a perfect day. Drinks at a little outdoor cafe. A man playing a romantic accordian music. I mean it was just like in the freaking movies!!!
Sadly I finally had to board the train and leave Paris. And with it I leave behind some wonderful new friends but take with me memories that I shall cherish forever. Thank you again to Jerome, and all the wonderful people I met. To Pascal and his family for their warm hospitality, to Tom for the roundback ukulele, to each and every person that made this such a special experience for me.
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Location: Orange County, California | AWSOME!!
Thanks for sharing Dave!! I would love to go over and avenge Jeff W. by staying with Scroeder (if Mrs. Schroeder will allow) and attendeing this event next year!! :D |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Wow Dave. It sounds amazing! Thanks for sharing. You'll have to post some pics of your new uke and the plaque. |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Wow, I feel like Bob Eucher in the Miller Lite commercials. |
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Location: SoCal | Wonderful! Now you didn't go and ask for Freedom Fries, did you? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | My wife and I spent a week in Paris back a few years back and still recall that as one of the most special times in our lives together. And I saw very few guitars at all on that trip much less like the ones I see in the above pics. Talk about an enhancement! I have to say, Dave, your story makes me want to go back today. I am so incredibly jealous. Glad you had the experience and I cannot wait for more pics. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | BTW, you did tell them that not everyone over here plays a uke, right, Dave?
..Dave....? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Last meal I had in France was one of the very best I ever had. 14 courses (including the wine courses). Fabulous.
it cost 57,000Francs.... about 10,000 dollars at time. Ouch.
True story.... happened to be about 30 people dining with in the ruins of a 15th century Chateau in Devon under the light of Comet Hale-Bopp... I had no idea that I was being billed for it. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ooops, I forgot to mention to my hosts that not all Americans play ukuleles. They DID however have a lot of questions about the coconuts and why we were called the "Fish-Dicks". I'm still sitting here with a grin on my face about the whole event. Just amazing.
Almost lost in the shuffle is our guy Jerome. We always thnk about him and his website (which is an incredible resource of informaton), but he has quietly put together a very nice collection of Adamas. Adamas 1 red, Adamas 2 beige, Adamas 2 black wideneck, and the red 47RI. Man, THAT is quite an assortment of great guitars.
Did I mention how nice the 47RI is ??? I know I did many times. But just when you think you have read all there is, or heard all there is you play the thing again and it's WOW, THIS IS IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEAGUE. Like Moody said, it's the one guitar you would sell all your others to own (and some of us may be doing exactly that).
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Location: Cicero, NY | Why do I get the feeling that telling Dave to go back and correct that little "not all Americans play ukes" faux paux would be met with a huge grin...? |
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Location: East Tennessee | Dave,
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had a really great time. I haven't seen that many Adamas's in one place since I last looked in your photo gallery. :D
P.S. I think I'll pass on the goose livers. :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Amazing how a common interest in guitars can bring forth such wonderful friendships.
One day maybe my wife and I will be fortunate to travel and see the group or perhaps some of them might one day wish to see the amazing Colorado Rockies! |
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Location: Chicago 'Burbs | Great journal! Sounds like a blast. I love France... been there three times in three years because I have a HS friend out their who got engaged, married, and became a mom. Any of the FOF heard of Genie Godula?
Anyway... very jealous because I think my France streak has ended for a bit. Also jealous of the guitars... but that's a given. |
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Location: Paris/France | Hi,
Thanks Dave for your long post.
We're so happy and honored that you enjoyed your time in France. ;)
Some pics: OVATION FRENCH GATHERING
J :) |
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Location: south east Michigan | Fantastic pictures Jerome!!! |
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Location: Scotland | Hey Jerome, is that a Charlie amp I can see in a couple of the pics? |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Looks like an incredible gathering! Great Pictures. |
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Location: France | Yes that's a Charlie amp and Pascal has two of them!
It's a heavy box but what a great sound!
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Location: Scotland | The Charlies were the first amps specifically designed for Electro acoustic guitar, long before GK, Trace and the rest. I've read about them but never actually seen or heard one in the flesh. Kim Keller has one and I belive Dadi used them extensively. Were they made in France? |
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Location: France | Marcel Dadi used them a lot.
Music Industrie was building them and they made a special Marcel Dadi Edition, the Dadi series:
a few pics here
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul, The amp sounds very nice. Only problem is that it takes 2 strong men to move to move it! VERY heavy. Dave |
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Location: SoCal | Those are great pics! It looks like a wonderful time was had by all. |
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Location: NJ | It DOES look like it was a great time!
(too bad it was wasted on somebody like Witko . .) |
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Location: SoCal | Notice that all the French pickers are playing with thumbpicks. Inspired no doubt by Marcel Dadi. Not a bad choice for inspiration..... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Great pictures......some beautiful guitars and some beautiful women! |
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Location: NJ | Wow
that really looks like a great time. I wish I was there. |
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Location: Paris/France | Some last words about these 2 days.
I've had most of the guys on the phone or by email and we all have the same feeling today.
It's hard to leave our "little cloud" and going back to the ground.
We've had so much fun, friendship, music, emotions and ukulele ;) .
I would not be surprised if some Ukes were bought in the following days in France...
We were so impressed by Dave's performance with a Bruce Springsteen's song (I'm not joking).
Everybody was listening silently and respectfully!!
Like we says in France: "Nous aurions pu entendre le pet d'une mouche..."
"you would be able to hear a fly's wind..." (I'm not sure of the English translation) :D :D
Because I can't live without a project, my next one will be to be with you at the Factory Tour next year.
Now I know that even if my English is not very good, it's good enough to communicate with you.
Rendez-vous l'année prochaine!!
You've got one year to learn some French words (only if you want)!!
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Location: SoCal | Jerome, your English is better than Jeff W's.
You really do need to be at the factory next year. You'll have a great time. As Schroeder and Jeff W and other first timers found out, this is a very inclusive group. |
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Location: France | Great project Jerome! I'll try to be at the factory tour 07 as well.
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| "As Schroeder and Jeff W and other first timers found out, this is a very inclusive group."
The question is - "Jerome, do you want to be included in a group like that?" |
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| To be serious - I did tell Rick Hall that I think that Ovation should have sent Jerome a plane ticket - the time, effort and goodwill that goes into Jerome's site is a million times more than the official site could muster in a lifetime.
OVATION OWE JEROME BIGTIME. |
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Location: SoCal | Agreed..... |
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Location: Paris/France | Thanks,
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Location: Orlando, FL | Jerome, I think for most of us (and most people just searching on the web) you have the undisputed best Ovation information site. That other site (ovation.com) is just the latest marketing. :)
As always thanks! I don't think a week goes by that I don't check your site for something! |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Thank's Dave for your words.
I'm happy you enjoyed your stay with all of us !
I'm very happy to have met you !
You're a fantastic musician : uke, drums and voice !!
And you seemed to enjoy french food and drinks which is a great quality !!! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I can eat in eight different languages!
And for the record:
"Like we says in France: "Nous aurions pu entendre le pet d'une mouche..."
= "You could hear a Fly fart!"
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"You could hear a Gnat's a$$ pass gas!"
The OFC is People! |
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Location: SoCal | Jerome, you commented in your section of the French OFC gathering that the FD14 is "so amazing". What was it that you liked and how did it compare with the Adamii there? |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Jerome, you commented in your section of the French OFC gathering that the FD14 is "so amazing". What was it that you liked and how did it compare with the Adamii there? I played both FD14 and #47RI during this day. I own an A2 too.
I also played U681T and A1 WN.
(so cool saturday !!!! :D :D Like an Ovation Factory bis !! You could test every guitar you wish !!)
I've loved playing with the FD14.
The playability is fantastic : very smooth neck (with a U shape), the action is very low (Tom asked a professional to adjust it). The neck is larger than the standard (1"3/4 vs 1"11/16) which is very easy to play.
It is the same with the #47RI : very very easy to play.
On the sound side, the FD14 is very warm (cedar top) and very precise. The smallest touch you do is restitute by the guitar (like the #47RI).
To finish, the look of this guitar is amazing : very pure and the tortle inlays are beautiful !
Definitly a great guitar !!!
For somebody who has not the budget to buy a #47, it is THE guitar to go for !!
My 2 cents ;) |
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Location: Paris/France | The FD-14 and the Adamas II are so different but the greatest difference is the sound.
I've never heard an Ovation with such a "wood" sound!! So warm and so sweet.
I've played on that guitar more than 30 minutes (plugged in) and it was so easy.
When I started to play, I was a little bit surprised by the 12 frets neck and I had lost my marks but with some practice, there's no problem.
There was 4 Adamas II and each one have a different sound.
The only thing that they shares is the amazing comfort of their necks and the incredible projection of the sound.
I was so sad to leave all these beauties at the end of the day...
Antoine told us today a nice story.
Yesterday, when he was on the way to his house in the south of France, he saw a special car on a parking.
He takes a photo and the girl who own that car was amazed to see a guy shooting its car... :eek:
Look at the photo!!
It was a sign isn't it??? :D :D
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Location: Phoenix AZ | AMAZING! That one deserves a standing ovation.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Wonder how much Tuppy had to pay for that one :eek: |
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Location: France | Isn't this another interesting sign?
This is the ticket with my Hotel room number from saturday after the gathering!
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Tom,
That is just weird.
I think Tuppy being at the gathering with a Uke has unleashed some sort of cosmic karmic neo-energy! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And Tom does not yet know that we billed all the drinks to room number 47 ...
Seriously, having a 47RI and a ukulele in the same place at the same time is like the PLUS and MINUS 3 sigma of the guitar distribution.
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Location: Parrish, FL | Watch out! Now we have a Marketing guy throwing statistics around. It's going to get deep in a a big hurry.
Tuppy, best to leave that kind of numbers to us Engineering types. We can lie the best with 'em! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Jerome, your English is better than Jeff W's. Whaddaya mean, Paul? I talk english good. |
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Location: Paris/France | Hi,
Of course we've made a movie of this amazing week end.
My friend Cyril has made a 30 mn DVD and a "trailer"...
FRENCH GATHERING TRAILER
As you can see, we don't have "coconut bra" but we're also crazy!!! :D
Dave, the DVD is on the way to Arizona since last week with some extras. ;)
Feel free to make copies if you want.
Your Bruce Sprinsteen song's performance on Uke is really incredible...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Americans won't watch films with subtitles.... |
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Location: Paris/France | Don't worry Jeff, Dave is singing in American so he don't need to be subtitled... :D
J :) |
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Location: SoCal | How can one get a copy of the whole dvd? That trailer was great! |
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Location: Paris/France | Send me an email with your postal address, I'll be glad to send you a copy. ;)
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | J, that trailer was awesome!
Do you still have my address or do I need to PM it to you? |
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Location: NJ | NicelyDone! |
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Location: Waxahachie, Tx | J, Fantastic, You guys and your gals looked like, you had good time. Dave, looks right at home. Paulmac, if I did not know, You were in France I'd have thought the setting was right here. It just goes to show even though we speak a different language, our homes are in different countries, and we are raised in different cultures we have so much more in common than we realize. Viva Le Tour!! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by texbaz:
It just goes to show even though we speak a different language, our homes are in different countries, and we are raised in different cultures we have so much more in common than we realize. Viva Le Tour!! ... and to think.... it's Witko. |
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Location: Paris/France | Stephen, your copy is on the way to Littleton since this afternoon!! ;)
Texbaz, thanks for these nice words and I agree with you.
We have more to share than we could imagine.
Especially with some friends, a BBQ, good wines, some good foods, Ovation guitars and a very good Uke player of course!!! ;)
J :) |
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Location: SoCal | I let him sleep at my house one time before the NAMM show, and now, every year, like the sparrows at San Juan, he keeps showing up. What a pain....... |
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Location: NJ | it's swallows . . . and it's Capistrano . . . .
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I let him sleep at my house one time before the NAMM show, and now, every year, like the sparrows at San Juan, he keeps showing up. What a pain....... What a load of crap. THIS is how it really goes. Three years running now, Moody starts calling me in early January. "Dave, you gotta come. You need to be here. PLEASE? I'll drive 5 hour to Phoenix and pick you up..."
Dave
PS - I played the same song on Jerome's DVD as I did on Le Tour '06 DVD, so y'all are gonna think I only know one song. Well, that might be true but it's still 1/2 a song more than Moody knows. Jeez, how many times can one person play the 1st verse of GOMM??? |
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Location: SoCal | Clifford, I meant what I said, Witko's like the sparrows...... and for those of us who live here, we all know that San Juan is short for San Juan Capistrano..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Clifford, I meant what I said, Witko's like the sparrows...... and for those of us who live here, we all know that San Juan is short for San Juan Capistrano..... Cliff ... The swallows of New Jersey? So what's with the Gov. They shut down the beaches and casinos? What the hell is up with that? Yeah let's close the only money making gigs we've got going. Sometimes I do actually miss the place. Dave |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jerome, thanks from the bottom of my heart!
One of these days, Ms. T28 and myself will make it over to pester you like Tuppy did.
and of course, if you ever want to vacation in the states and see the real mountains of America, you know you have a standing invitation. |
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