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Joined: June 2004 Posts: 580
Location: NW NJ | OK Ladies and Gentlemen - let the bidding frenzy begin. A gorgeous 1687-2, looks pretty minty, seems to be a reputable person, oh my ...
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1026
Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | well, I went two bucks, but was outbid ....guess I'm out.
(sorry...I've been spoiled lately) |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Red seems to be in style these days. Dave |
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Location: south east Michigan | ****nanner, nanner, nanner!**** :D |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Wow! That looks like the exact model that Alex Lifeson (of Rush) used back in the eighties. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. There's no reserve, so it might go at a good price. It's a beauty! |
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 Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Jeez, slow down, guys... 6 days left. At this rate it'll be over a grand by tonight. |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634
Location: Warren,Pa. | I'm sure it's not gonna go for a bargain-basement price. I don't imagine there's a more sought-after guitar these days.
Brad, hope you go the distance!
John <>{ |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | and it's 1, 2, 3 strikes your out.......
well, I'm done. |
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Location: closely held secret | Schwiiing! |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634
Location: Warren,Pa. | Sorry Brad. I won't do that again. I just had to get my name on the list of bidders. It's as close as I'll come to owning one of those. John <>{ |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634
Location: Warren,Pa. | I'll go even further. If you get it at that price, I'll give you the $40. I just got carried away and, unencumbered by the thought process.... |
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 Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394
Location: East Tennessee | Man O Man what a beauty. :) :cool: :) |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | John, don't feel bad. Brad outbid me (even tho I had already been outbid!) |
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 Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Let's experiment and see what Brad's top bid is...
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 Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Its all mine! |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | that's okay...check out the bidder list
may get interesting |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | Since SWMBO noticed that I don't have any blue guitars, I'll just let you guy's fight over it, although I much prefer red. Who's Tim the Rebel? |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Aloha Tim is the Rebel |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Is Hiawatha an OFC member? |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | AnalogAudio has to be very pleased with how his auction is going. |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Long way from current bidding to the end sales price - assuming that additional questions don't indicate damage. Number of bidders will drop out and probably several serious bidders that haven't bid yet will step in.
Market is screwy right now but a nice 1687 w/OP-24 should sell for at least $2,000 and probably at least $2,200.
Why screwy? First of all, eBay prices for any of the upper end guitars are all over the spectrum. And, the 1687RI presented an ability to buy a new, w/warrenty, two-knobber for $2,100-2,200. Scary to buy a guitar that you haven't seen and played. A new (old style) guitar takes a lot of the risk out of the purchase. Heck, even the 1681 Adamas II reissue was $2,100-2,200.
In fact, I felt I got a good deal on a 1687-7 (yr 1987) for $1,852 May '04. These are the seller's pictures before going back to the factory for TLC.
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 Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Not that I think for a second that I'll walk away with this one...just thought the color goes really well against the 1187's and they would look good alongside each other on the wall.
I figure $2K is probably about right on this one, but I don't have that much spending change right now.
Tim |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Aloha_Tim:
I don't have that much spending change right now. Geee, I wonder why :rolleyes: |
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 Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Cause I just moved my teenager out of public school to private school :p
The RI had nothing to do with it, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1128
Location: NW Washington State | Hi-
I'm mostly a lurker here, but I do have a fair amount of eBay experience. I don't have an excuse to buy another guitar so I'm not going to be a bidder on this one. I don't know anything about the guitar or the seller.
Do you guys really consider a seller with 97.1% positive feedback a good risk? I usually get suspicious below about 98.5%, below 99% if they've had a lot of transactions. People try hard to avoid getting retaliatory negative feedback, so lots of potentially negative or neutral feedback is never left.
Requiring a USPS money order for an expensive item might mean that the seller is concerned about getting ripped off, or it might be that they want to make sure that you have no recourse if there's a problem.
Again, I don't know the seller and hope that it will be a smooth transaction for the winner.
-Steve W. |
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 Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234
Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | It's funny that the last negative feedback was from the same person that had the last transaction from him and left a positive feedback.
I read the negatives and see what transpired more than worrying what a persons overall rating is. I normally establish email correspindence for high dollar items before I commit to the transaction.
Tim |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | What Tim said. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | That sure is pretty. |
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 Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | "Do you guys really consider a seller with 97.1% positive feedback a good risk?" ...
The only negative fedback I have received is by sellers who I have left negative feedback for. I find it amazing how someone can obviously try to screw you over and THEN expect you just take it without saying anything. Anyway ... to answer your question (like Tim said), you really need to read the actual feedbacks from the buyer AND seller. |
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 Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13996
Location: Upper Left USA | I look for clues that they are real people. Anyone with over 500 feedback is bound to have some off periods.
For the big money issues its good to connect via phone and ask a few of th=ose questions.
I have a Nuetral feedback because of a Newbie that was afraid to ask a question. |
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Joined: June 2004 Posts: 580
Location: NW NJ | Originally posted by MWoody:
I have a Nuetral feedback because of a Newbie that was afraid to ask a question. Me too ... |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1128
Location: NW Washington State | The toolhaus.org negative/neutral feedback tool helps me make a judgement:
http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=analogaudio.com&Dirn=Rece...
http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=analogaudio.com&Dirn=Left...
Originally posted by MWoody:
Anyone with over 500 feedback is bound to have some off periods. Sure, anyone can make a mistake or two, but it's not unusual to see sellers with hundreds or thousands of transactions and no negs.
If the seller's feedback doesn't look good, I pass on the item even if I really, really want it. I don't think I'm clever enough to detect a problem seller via email or phone. If the feedback is OK and the item is expensive, I'll send an email or two just to make sure the seller is responsive.
Again, I don't know anything about the guitar or the seller. Good luck to the winning bidder.
-Steve W. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Wow...that really shot up in the last few minutes. I thought Stephen28 had a good shot at getting it. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Told ya I wouldn't be in the ballpark.
Actually sold for close to it's worth. |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | What it is worth? May not be considered the favorite color of some but with the 47RI, red is the "in" color this year.
C'mon...assuming that the guitar was in the condition the seller said in an email, the guitar was well worth close to (or over)$2K. Some might discount it because it doesn't have the two-knobber pre-amp but there are others that would prefer the newer pre-amp.
Whoever bought it got a great deal.
Unfortunately, I had to let my bid stand as I had to leave about 1/2 hour before it closed. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
Unfortunately, I had to let my bid stand as I had to leave about 1/2 hour before it closed. Why not try a "snipe"? I despise these things really, but I've lost so many auctions because of them I figure if you can't beat'em, join 'em
www.auctionsniper.com |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| This was a good price. Sure wish when I was in the market for an Adamas 1 I found this one. I really am becoming partial to that red. I think it was the shallow body Adamas Stephen28 had up for sale a while back the more I looked at it the more I had to have it!!
Nice guitar, to whom ever bought it; ....Enjoy |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Saying "what is was worth" was probably the wrong wording.....more like the current going rate.
Yeah....I think at 2K it is still a deal. |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | It will be interesting where the 1187-2 (mod) ends up...
As to Paul's comments, the problem with the first auction is that I had no commitment to pay fair dollar...heck, I have four 1687's now (two are on short-term loan)...maybe good that I wasn't at the end, might have bid more that I planned :rolleyes: |
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