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Location: south east Michigan | Greetings everyone.
I hope you are having a wonderful afternoon.
Being aware of my reputation as a coconut bra wearing, obtrusive camcorder operating, and at times a tad excitable OFC member, I will attempt to make this announcement with all the quite, dignity, and grace it deserves.
It seems at though I have been rather fortunate in a recent e-bay venture. I am pleased to say, in a restrained, polite way, that I am now the proud owner of....
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A UTE!!!!! A flippin' UTE baby!!!
Ohhhhhhh yea.....ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! ute! :D :) :cool: :D :D ;) :D :)
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | congrats! I'll make you a deal on the cocomut bra to go with it... |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Very nice Brad. Enjoy!! |
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Location: Orange County, California | :eek: WoW!! Welcome to the Slot-Head Club!! :D
Now, get yerself some Savarez Argentine 1610MF's and you can be JUST LIKE ME (except for the hair) :D :p |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Jesus, I just know he's not wearing any clothes.
Congrats, Brad. Now, put your pants on. |
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Location: Midland, MI | I thought you said, 'uke.' :eek:
Congrats on the geetar, looks mighty fine! |
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Location: south east Michigan | zzzzzzip
There....
Thanks everyone.
I'm really geeked about it. |
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Location: Indiana | I was watching the auction....I am sure you are. glad to see it's in the ofc and with a neighbor to the north...hope it turns out to be all you hoped it would. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And Brad, I bet when you open the case for the first time you'll find that this guitar is in WAY better condition than that '66 Martin in the other thread ... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Brad - I know you were jazzed about going koa but I think you just jumped into another league. Congrats and enjoy. |
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Location: SoCal | Brad, that's wonderful! How soon before it gets to your hot and sweaty palms? |
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Location: south east Michigan | If all goes well....Thursday at best. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Wow! My Ute GAS is growing. Maybe August. I like everything about them except the color doesn't do anything for me. That just means I need a red Adamas and a blue Adamas besides. |
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Location: Paris/France | Congrats Brad!!! Félicitations!!!
I've played Tom's Ute last week and it's a wonderful guitar.
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Location: SE Michigan | Congratulations Brad! You picked a really fine guitar, and it looks like a great price to boot! Can't wait to try it out.
So at this rate you'll be buying another guitar.....lesseee......around 2011? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Congratulations and thanks for helping me out!
You will love this guitar. |
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Location: North Idaho | Nice acquistion. Sure to bring you much enjoyment. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Great news Brad! What a great day for you!
Bill...were you the seller???
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Location: Vermont USA | Brad taht is one very nice guitar
Pauly :cool: |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Congrats Brad! That is one beautiful guiter, and I could see why you're so excited. Great price too. Good luck with it and tell us the details when you play it. |
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Location: Keller, TX | Great guitar and a killer price! Now if the factory would just make up their minds about the cootie! |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks again everyone.
Tom...The "cootie" will be well worth the wait. BTW.."cootie" is a great nickname.
Mark...I aggree... A red or blue Adamas top has more pizazz to it.
cwk2... I don't know what I did, but your welcome.
Tuppy...Please don't remind me. The last thing I want is a shipping nightmare.
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Location: closely held secret | Man, leave the house for a day, and look what happens...
Congratulations, Brad! I assume you're bringing it to the OFC NW? |
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Location: south east Michigan | Boy I'd love to but the summer spending money is already blown.
New lawnmower for the wife...new guitar for me.
You know how it is. |
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Location: closely held secret | Not lately... how is it? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Oppps....I had just questioned whether or not Brad was the same person as "SKIP"kid in the original post.
Guess this clears it up. CONGRATS! |
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Location: south east Michigan | My e-bay name is the result of an unfortunate typing incident that I never bothered to correct.
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Looks like I'll have to get used to the "wide neck" thing. Oh well. I can adjust.
Wait...I assume it's a wide neck ala the FD14. :confused:
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Does anyone know the UTE production run? Did they stick to 100 or make as many as they could get orders for?
With the truss rod cover I have to think that this has the LX neck system. Do you think it has the GS bowl material also? The Ovation website was kinda vauge on these specs.
I know!!!! I'll go to Jerome's website. He knows everything!
So at this rate you'll be buying another guitar.....lesseee......around 2011?
I did the math. On average I buy one guitar every six years. But those stats are deceptive because I have purchased 4 in the last 3 years. |
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Location: Orange County, California | The nut is 1 3/4". Not so much a wide neck as not a very skinny-neck by other's standards. The un-official final count was 100 or less depending on the number of neck replacement/complete re-placements they did for the few of us who's U681T's made it past QC that shouldn't have. All were fixed/replaced to the original owners complete satisfaction, no questions asked, no request denied. I was actually chastised because all I wanted was the neck reset on mine :D
Yes to the ANS, and Lyrachord GS bowl. This guitar contributed signifigantly to what we have now standardized on as the LX treatment across the model lines. The other very signifigant guitar to this end is the '05 collectors. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks for the answers Fred. I think my "Hobbit Hands" will be able to deal with a "not so wide" neck.
I gotta believe (hope) that the QC issues had been solved by the time mine came off the line.
I am anxious to feel the weight of this thing. My old Balladeer is a featherweight compared to the AD-II with the K-bar. |
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| Congratulations - your life is now complete. Geetars don't get any better than a ute. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Hey Clive...
In hindsite, one of the things that swung me to a UTE now rather than waiting for something to come along later was the great sounds you were getting from that UTE on the Tour.
I can't duplicate what you do but you sure were using the right tool for the job.
Another was a bit of good advise from Cliff.
"Brad.." he says.... "Ya need a UTE." |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Ooooooooooo....sorry Brad,
but I have received a 2nd chance offer to buy the Ute because you backed out....and the seller skipped over 4 other high bidders to sell it to me for a much lower price than he could have gotten elsewhere :eek:
Sorry buddy....it's now mine ;) |
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Location: France | Congratulations Brad!
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Location: south east Michigan | Stephen....you are a reeeeeeal troublemaker, aren't ya? :D
And thanks Tom.
I guess I just could not hold out any longer for the OFC guitar or whatever else might lie in the unforseen future.
Anyway, the ute is not very far from somthing I would custom order. Change the top to blue or red, install the VIP preamp and there ya go. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Stephen....you are a reeeeeeal troublemaker, aren't ya? :D
Yes I am, but I really did get that 2nd chance offer......I imagine every bidder got a 2nd chance offer.....damn scammers make good times a bitch :mad: |
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Location: Keller, TX | Yep, I got a second chance offer, too. When I sold a Millenium, I got paid by the high bidder, but received notice that someone had sent out second chance offers to the other bidders. It wasn't me. Be wary of those second chance offers. Confirm thru Ebay before you send any money!!! |
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Location: Orange County, California | Forward those fake 2nd chance offers (including email headers) to Ebay. They will go after them.
Better yet (if you have time), ask the guy making the offer for the paypal email address they wish to use and then send them an invoice for the same amount. I've heard of these morons responding to it and actually SENDING YOU the money. Be prepared to give it back though. These guys are using hi-jacked Pay-pal accounts to do this crap, and unless they had pulled the wool over on some other suckers, you might be taking "grandma's SS money" out of her checking account, but maybe not if they set up their withdrawl path as the primary account. :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The Ute came out just when I was getting back into Ovations. I wish I could have bought a new one, but that would have been too much of a shock to my wife's system. Now that she has been desensitized with a bunch of smaller shocks, I told her that I wanted to buy a Ute in August. She asked whether it was a new one and then just said she was getting new carpet. That's as close to permission as I'll ever get. |
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With all the blood you have to give up for every guitar you get, I am surprised you are still able to function! |
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Location: south east Michigan | Hmmm. I didn't know that the second offer scam was that common.
It did happen to me once. I told the guy just to relist it and I'll bid on it again. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Although Dave wouldn't let me meet his wife, I've seen his house and his wife's car. We all have to pay our dues. After raising 2 daughters, I grew accustomed to shelling out the money.
I'll also let all you guys in on a little secret you probably already know.
If you need new carpet, let your wife think it is her gift from you. If you need a new SUV to pull your boat, let her think it is your Mother's Day present from you. Just make sure it will also pull that newer heavier boat you need.
If you need a new house, make sure it has a 5 car garage for your toys and a basement for your shop and guitars. Just let her know how much you struggle to make those payments on "her" house.
SWMBO knows all these secrets already, but she lets me think I am getting away with something. She pays for all the stuff that I really complain that we can't afford, like the cabin remodel, trip to Italy, trip to Germany, etc. I've got it pretty good. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Like I said in another thread....
Last week my wife got a brand new lawnmower!! :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I knew I wasn't any more clever than the rest of you. |
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Location: south east Michigan | "Out For Delivery"
What a wonderful phrase.
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So...tonight I'll change the strings on a slothead for the first time. How much time should I block out for this little endevor? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 30 minutes....I have never found it that difficult on a 6 string.....but on a 12 string....ooohhh boy! |
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Location: Parrish, FL | Brad,
When I restrung mine, it didn't take any more time than a standard configuration.
I think you will be impressed. I'm awed a little more everytime I pick it up. It's LOUD! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
30 minutes....I have never found it that difficult on a 6 string.....but on a 12 string....ooohhh boy! 30 Minutes ??? Hey Stephen how about a little bet. You still got two '97 Parlors? Let's get them both out side by side and I'll race you restringing them. Winner keeps both guitars. Are you up for it?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Hey Waskel, DUH, THANKS A LOT !!! and was gonna give one of them parlors to YOU !!! Dave
PS - seriously, about stringing slotheads (I've got a few of them), I really don't see any issue that should cause it to be any mor edifficult or time consuming than a flathead guitar withj the possible exception of removing the old strings. You do need to be careful that you don't scratch the inside of the "slot" when removing the old ones. Other than that it's no big deal. |
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Location: closely held secret | Uh, gee, Dave... I have no idea what you're talking about. Parlors? Like with scotch and cigars? |
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Location: Orange County, California | You'll want to leave extra wraps around the post on the G and D strings so they don't rub the TRC... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I was just stringing the 1537 for it's journey to StellarJim, and though not a slothead, I put and extra wrap or two around the post to force the strings (esp bass) way down the post to increase the break over the nut. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I put and extra wrap or two around the post to force the strings (esp bass) way down the post to increase the break over the nut. YUP, that's the way to do it. These guys that say the guitar stays in tune better with only a single wind around the post are FOS. The farther down the post you go (shut up Cliff) the better it sounds. |
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Location: closely held secret | The two theories are mutually exclusive, my friend. They can both be true, without the other being untrue. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You're giving me a headache ...
My simple mind (shut up Cliff) tells me that there is like 27 or so inches of string under tension and TENSION (plus diameter, blah, blah,) determines pitch. You can't tell me that an extra 1/2 inch of wrap around a solid post is going to cause the string to change tension by slipping. If the string is slipping on the post, then you did something wrong.
I would argue that the theories can NOT both be true because you can not string with only 1 wrap around the post AND wind way down the pole at the same time.
Or maybe I'm just too tone deaf to know tat it's out of tune ...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Shut up, Cliff. |
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Location: closely held secret | Less trips around the post means less potential delayed stretching of the strings, so the string becomes stable over all it's length faster, and maintains the tension.
Having the string lower on the post creates a greater break angle over the nut (shut UP! Cliff) which holds the string tighter in the slot. Whether or not this has a discernable effect on the tone (as it does at the saddle) is arguable.
But just as this sharper angle keeps the string from sliding sideways in the slot, it also helps keep it from sliding lengthwise, which isn't really an issue on slotheads (one of the nice things about the design) but can be on pegheads, as there is always some flexing in the posts, since they're only supported at one end.
So winding lower on the post could help keep the string in tune. Except that you have to add more windings to accomplish it. Which potentially makes it harder to keep in tune.
How's your headache?
Oh, the reason I said they were mutually exclusive was because us GWAFOS said less windings meant less tuning, and you OGWAFOS said winding lower on the post made it sound better. Different goals. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This GWINFOS (me!) needs a freakin' Tylenol.
For gods sake, you just slip the string through the string tube, pull it through the bridge, remove the tube, wrap the string a few times around the post, into the hole, turn the tunner button a few revolutions and start strumming away ... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I thought that when the strings went dead, you just bought a new guitar that someone else had already strung. At least that's what that Standing Ovation did and he was my idol. |
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Location: NW NJ | Fred:
If you leave the string tubes in after you string the guitar be sure to get some of StandingO's special String Tube Conditioner (STC in the trade). If you don't, the constant vibration will cause the tubes to deteriorate over a period of a few weeks and congeal into an impenetrable gob of stuff welding the string into the bridge rendering it unremovable. If that happens, you'll have to pry the bridge off and replace it, or just drill some holes vertically through the bridge and top, slap some bridge pins in and forget the pinless bridge idea altogether.
As usual, at least before he split, StandingO thought of everything! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Tupperware:
turn the tunner button a few revolutions and start strumming away ... Well, that's how you tune an Double bass, I'm not so sure it works for fretted instuments. |
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Location: SE Michigan | Bring it to my house Brad, I'll re-string it and even tune it up for no extra charge. |
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Location: south east Michigan | To late...It's done.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by stephent28:
30 minutes....I have never found it that difficult on a 6 string.....but on a 12 string....ooohhh boy! 30 Minutes ??? Hey Stephen how about a little bet. You still got two '97 Parlors? Let's get them both out side by side and I'll race you restringing them. Winner keeps both guitars. Are you up for it?
Dave Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ...
My simple mind (shut up Cliff) tells me that there is like 27 or so inches of string under tension and TENSION (plus diameter, blah, blah,) determines pitch. You can't tell me that an extra 1/2 inch of wrap around a solid post is going to cause the string to change tension by slipping. If the string is slipping on the post, then you did something wrong.
I would argue that the theories can NOT both be true because you can not string with only 1 wrap around the post AND wind way down the pole at the same time.
Or maybe I'm just too tone deaf to know tat it's out of tune ...
Dave Originally posted by Tupperware:
This GWINFOS (me!) needs a freakin' Tylenol.
For gods sake, you just slip the string through the string tube, pull it through the bridge, remove the tube, wrap the string a few times around the post, into the hole, turn the tunner button a few revolutions and start strumming away ... Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ...
My simple mind (shut up Cliff) tells me that there is like 27 or so inches of string under tension and TENSION (plus diameter, blah, blah,) determines pitch. You can't tell me that an extra 1/2 inch of wrap around a solid post is going to cause the string to change tension by slipping. If the string is slipping on the post, then you did something wrong.
I would argue that the theories can NOT both be true because you can not string with only 1 wrap around the post AND wind way down the pole at the same time.
Or maybe I'm just too tone deaf to know tat it's out of tune ...
Dave Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I put and extra wrap or two around the post to force the strings (esp bass) way down the post to increase the break over the nut. YUP, that's the way to do it. These guys that say the guitar stays in tune better with only a single wind around the post are FOS. The farther down the post you go (shut up Cliff) the better it sounds. Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ... Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ... Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ... Originally posted by Tupperware:
You're giving me a headache ... :cool: MARKETING GUYS.....THEY START TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD AFTER A WHILE |
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Location: south east Michigan | UTE review...
First let me say that the seller (Dave) was great. Good communication and the packaging was first rate. The guitar is as described and came well documented.
I'm not very proud of my first slothead re-string job. I tried to take Fred's advise but it still looks kinda sloppy. The hard part for me was keeping the D & G string away from the inside edge of the slot. I better get the hang of it quick so I don't make a little string groove in the slothead.
I restrung my AD-II (in 20 minutes) so I could A/B with the restrung UTE (which took an hour and 20 minutes). The UTE is definatly louder, has more sustain, and rumbles with more bass. I thought the AD-II had a good supply of low end but the UTE goes lower. Finger tip picking has more volume. The wider neck is not a issue. In fact it makes finger picking easier. Playing the short neck is noticable. So far I have only found one song where I almost run out of real estate up the neck.
I was looking for contrast from the AD-II and Balladeer. I think I have found it. The ute has that Adamas, piano like ring and is a very different flavor than the wood tops.
The UTE sitting next to my black, Adamas-like ukelele is quite a picture.
The true test will come this evening when Brian & I get together for a jam.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
The UTE sitting next to my black, Adamas-like ukelele is quite a picture. You mean a black version of THIS ???
That's Jerome's 47RI and Uke. Yes, our dear Webmaster has crossed over to the Dark Side. How long before the rest of the EU falls in line ...
Brad, congratulations and again on the U681. I'm really glad you like it and not at ALL surprised! Now you need the 12-string version.
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Location: south east Michigan | Yep...that's the look! |
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Location: Orange County, California | Originally posted by Slipkid:
...I restrung my AD-II (in 20 minutes) :eek: so I could A/B with the restrung UTE (which took an hour and 20 minutes) :eek: :eek: OK, New guidline. You should'nt be allowed to own more guitars than you can re-string in an hour. I 'm not saying Brad is "slow", but rather some people already have too many slot heads and 12 strings. :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
some people already have too many slot heads and 12 strings. :D so speaks SLOT HEAD FRED. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Try restringing a hardbody with a Kahler tremelo and locking nut. I gave up after breaking a new string. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | SHHEEEEEEEESSSSSHHHHHH.....give Brad a break! An hour and 20 minutes for a six-string slothead sounds "in-the-ballpark" to me......takes me FOUR FREAKIN' HOURS for my old GC 12-string.....
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Location: Orange County, California | Could be much worse than the stupid Floyd Rose on my Ibanez. At least it's one of the "Kahler Style" with the tube you put the string through instead of having to clamp the string in each saddle...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
And yes, I can change strings on my slotheads faster than most people can on top posts... :D Anyone else, thinkin' "O.K.Corral?" |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well the recent times posted have me thinking.....
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Location: SE Michigan | Brad was just over with his new U681T. It's quite a horse, got a ton of thud and rumble. And it looks to be in pretty well pristine condition. Nice guitar Brad. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks Brian.. Yeah...I'm real happy how it played in a practice session.
I have to mention the fretboard. Just a fantasic example of black, dense, ebony. It's almost more like a slab of slate than something organic.
You know....I think I'm about done. I look at the 6 examples of stringed instruments sitting all around my living room and it feels complete.
Oh maybe someday the soprano uke might be moved for an Ovation tenor uke. I have never felt even a small itch for a 12 string. Maybe someday I'll have the UTE fitted with the VIP pre-amp. Before I bought the UTE I told Pam that I might sell the Breadwinner to finance the next guitar. Nope... no way.. she does not want to see that one sold.
Yep...a nice aura of serenity has settled in. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
You know....I think I'm about done. I look at the 6 examples of stringed instruments sitting all around my living room and it feels complete.
Yep...a nice aura of serenity has settled in. Yeah, sure Brad. I've bought plenty of "my last" guitars. Ovation GAS is like genital herpes - once you get it, it ain't going away.
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Location: Massachusetts | Hey Brad,DaveC here......the seller of your UTE guitar.You sound happy, I'm happy for you.My son,Kyle, thanks you too.Make some good music with that beauty.Don't be a stranger. DAVEC |
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